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Dak, K. Moore, _________
Zeke, McFadden, _________
Dez, Williams, Beasley, Butler, Switzer, N. Brown
T. Smith, Cooper, Fred, Martin, L. Collins, Green, Bell, _______
Witten, Rico, Swaim
Charlton, Lawrence, Tapper, Irving, D. Moore
M. Collins, Crawford, Paea, Ivie
Lee, J. Smith, Wilber, Wilson, Nzeocha, Hitchens
Oscan, A. Brown, Awuzie, Lewis, White, Carroll
Jones, Heath, Woods, Frazier, Blanton


That's 49, we could keep a FB or keep Hanna.

If you notice I have 8 of our 9 draft picks making the team. We all pretty much agree on the first five. I think White could be this years A. Brown, when I watched his games I noticed two things. One was he was in position and looked comfortable, and the other was that the other team didn't throw his way much. Ivie looks quick, is always working up field, and wins with technique, perfect Marinelli guy. N. Brown is a great blocker, I think he makes the team on potential if he shows that he can block like that on this level and contributes on special teams units.
 

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I am hopeful Moore sees the light and breaks through, this is his last chance.
 

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Here's what I've got, fwiw, using the first 2016 weekend's 53-man as the template... but recognizing that it's altogether plausible we could, for instance, only begin the year with 3 RBs.

The blue blocks are those on the fence, and if they're not mentioned, I've disregarded their chances.

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So, I see 17 on offense competing for just... potentially... 5 spots, if 2016 is a guide. And, no one on defense competing for 1 LB slot... and in fact, we've got a serious traffic jam on the d-line that may lead to someone or ones being cut there.

All told, I count 49 names as in the boat, meaning something's gotta give. Most likely to my mind, we only fill one of those RB slots, only one of the FB slots, and might even forego the O-line slot (Cooper can play C) and the LB slot.
 
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Dak, K. Moore, _________
Zeke, McFadden, _________
Dez, Williams, Beasley, Butler, Switzer, N. Brown
T. Smith, Cooper, Fred, Martin, L. Collins, Green, Bell, _______
Witten, Rico, Swaim
Charlton, Lawrence, Tapper, Irving, D. Moore
M. Collins, Crawford, Paea, Ivie
Lee, J. Smith, Wilber, Wilson, Nzeocha, Hitchens
Oscan, A. Brown, Awuzie, Lewis, White, Carroll
Jones, Heath, Woods, Frazier, Blanton


That's 49, we could keep a FB or keep Hanna.

If you notice I have 8 of our 9 draft picks making the team. We all pretty much agree on the first five. I think White could be this years A. Brown, when I watched his games I noticed two things. One was he was in position and looked comfortable, and the other was that the other team didn't throw his way much. Ivie looks quick, is always working up field, and wins with technique, perfect Marinelli guy. N. Brown is a great blocker, I think he makes the team on potential if he shows that he can block like that on this level and contributes on special teams units.

There just has to be a lineman somewhere named Peppers who we can sign, no???
 

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Here's what I've got, fwiw, using the first 2016 weekend's 53-man as the template... but recognizing that it's altogether plausible we could, for instance, only begin the year with 3 RBs.

The blue blocks are those on the fence, and if they're not mentioned, I've disregarded their chances.

2017-05-04_2321.png


So, I see 17 on offense competing for just... potentially... 5 spots, if 2016 is a guide. And, no one on defense competing for 1 LB slot... and in fact, we've got a serious traffic jam on the d-line that may lead to someone or ones being cut there.

All told, I count 49 names as in the boat, meaning something's gotta give. Most likely to my mind, we only fill one of those RB slots, only one of the FB slots, and might even forego the O-line slot (Cooper can play C) and the LB slot.

Nice list, if we keep 5 CBs, I hope White beats out Carroll. I wouldn't be so quick to cut White.
 

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Just trying to hatch out a rough 53 man roster at this early time to see what we may be looking at as cuts start to come close to June 1 and camps. I based numbers on the opening 53 last year.

QB - Prescott, Moore, _________
TB - Elliott, McFadden, Morris, ________
FB - Smith x 2
WR - Bryant, Beasley, Williams, Switzer, Butler (or Brown)
TE - Witten, Swaim, Hanna (or Rico)
OTs - Smith, Collins, Green
OGs - Martin, Cooper, Looney, _______
C - Frederick

DT - Peae, Collins, Thornton, Crawford
DE - Mayowa, Irving, Lawrence, Tapper, Chimichanga
LB - Lee, Hitchens, Wilson, Smith, Nzeocha, Gachkar
S - Blanton, Jones, Heath, Frazier, Woods
CB - Scandrick, Brown, Awuzie, Carroll, Lewis

That's 50. K, P and LS add up to 53.

Seems the defense is pretty well set with no real need to bring in someone from the outside to fill a depth hole. Certainly, they could upgrade if possible.

It's the offense that appears to need some depth additions. We carried 4 TBs and right now we only have 3 and that's including Morris, and who knows what happens with him. We obviously need a 3rd QB for now (yes, I heard the Jones "we'd call Romo" angle). We typically carry four guards and really only have 3 and that includes Looney. Can Bell play there?

Seems that we may still have to hit the cut list coming up to fill a few holes, specifically, 3rd QB, TB and OG.

Moore scares me as our backup, need to do something different here, but seems they are going with him and 2 rookies in TC. I think this is a mistakes, one of theses 2, will not be a romo or Dak to emerge. Well, guess they can, but they want that vet QB backup, and Moore is not the guy.

Morris is the odd man out here, and why does some thing Darius Jackson was a big loss...he wasn't...Zeke, DMC, and rod Smith as the 3rd RB, 2nd FB, and can line up at WR too. That is the backfield. We do not need a Dunbar type RB. Can use Switzer if needed for some of Dunbar's receiving roles.

Brown can push Butler for his spot, but I can't see them going with 2 rookies, so they keep 6, with Brown, and that roster spot comes from Dunbar's spot.

To keep 3 or 4 TE's, hard to say. Much depends on the health of Swaim and Hanna. This also depends on how many OL they keep. Right now with no news on them, Swaim starts on PUP, if Hanna does too, then maybe only 2 TE's to start? hard call. My feel, one is on PUP, the other will be ok to play.

Ol, this depends on a few things. Collins at G or T. But we keep 9 to start. Add Bell and Cleary to your list of 7.

Gachkar is gone, so add Wilber for 6 LB's for now. If things shake out for DL & DB, then maybe keep a 7 LB.

going long on DB's and Dl for now, until see how they look in TC
Moore, Ivie, Ash, one of these 3 will be my 10th to your list. Ash, doubtful, and most likely Ivie, since we need more true DT's

Same 10 for DB's I have
 

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Nice list, if we keep 5 CBs, I hope White beats out Carroll. I wouldn't be so quick to cut White.

I get the enthusiasm for White, but it's just hard to fathom there'd be more than 10 d-backfield slots, and hard to fathom that any of the 10, and most definitely Carroll from where I sit, are vulnerable enough that a 3rd day draft pick is going to take their job from them. But of course injuries happen... and late-camp trades happen... if White answers the bell, either of those could be his saving grace. But for now, from my novice/mere fan assessment, he's destined for practice squad duty.
 

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I get the enthusiasm for White, but it's just hard to fathom there'd be more than 10 d-backfield slots, and hard to fathom that any of the 10, and most definitely Carroll from where I sit, are vulnerable enough that a 3rd day draft pick is going to take their job from them. But of course injuries happen... and late-camp trades happen... if White answers the bell, either of those could be his saving grace. But for now, from my novice/mere fan assessment, he's destined for practice squad duty.

Well in one of the deepest DB drafts in years, it would be hard for me to cut one of them for Carroll. Our 6th rounder last year, Brown, started for us most of last year. If this class is better, I would at least give White a chance over a guy like Carroll.
 

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Moore scares me as our backup, need to do something different here, but seems they are going with him and 2 rookies in TC. I think this is a mistakes, one of theses 2, will not be a romo or Dak to emerge. Well, guess they can, but they want that vet QB backup, and Moore is not the guy.

Morris is the odd man out here, and why does some thing Darius Jackson was a big loss...he wasn't...Zeke, DMC, and rod Smith as the 3rd RB, 2nd FB, and can line up at WR too. That is the backfield. We do not need a Dunbar type RB. Can use Switzer if needed for some of Dunbar's receiving roles.

Brown can push Butler for his spot, but I can't see them going with 2 rookies, so they keep 6, with Brown, and that roster spot comes from Dunbar's spot.

To keep 3 or 4 TE's, hard to say. Much depends on the health of Swaim and Hanna. This also depends on how many OL they keep. Right now with no news on them, Swaim starts on PUP, if Hanna does too, then maybe only 2 TE's to start? hard call. My feel, one is on PUP, the other will be ok to play.

Ol, this depends on a few things. Collins at G or T. But we keep 9 to start. Add Bell and Cleary to your list of 7.

Gachkar is gone, so add Wilber for 6 LB's for now. If things shake out for DL & DB, then maybe keep a 7 LB.

going long on DB's and Dl for now, until see how they look in TC
Moore, Ivie, Ash, one of these 3 will be my 10th to your list. Ash, doubtful, and most likely Ivie, since we need more true DT's

Same 10 for DB's I have

I'm with you about Moore, but I'm a broken record now, saying I don't put enough stock in any back-up in the league to do anything more than hold down the proverbial fort short-term, perhaps eeking out a win or two. There are by all rights guys who only deserve to be back-ups who are just fortunate to be in the right place and able then to ascend to being a starter. That was the magic about somehow having Tony hold over--we were going to be able to totally squash that whole dynamic of "what if your #1 goes down."

So, I try not to think about it at all, but when I do, I'm at least slightly comforted to know that Stephen said what he said in that season ticket holder conference call--ie, that Tony's on speed dial, and the question will be posed if Dak goes down for significant time.

Having said that, there are some here who try to marginalize Showers' shot at competing for #2, failing to remember that there were periods of time last summer when he actually was out-playing Dak in Oxnard per reports. He only regressed, really, at that point he had to begin playing with the roster fence-sitters. I'm just not persuaded that anyone in a decision-making position at The Star has actually forgotten that, and to the contrary, I think they placed him at safety at that point they decided to stick with Sanchez as Dak's back-up, and since it just made sense to give him a look there since he wasn't going to be taking snaps otherwise in practice.
 

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Nice looking at the Defensive Backfield, actually like it better than this time last year! The exception could be Strong Safety durability will be the key for Woods and he appears to have that.
 

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As far as the 53, we have enough guys to have pretty solid depth all around.

As far as camp, safety is the only position we really might need some bodies. Maybe RB.

Good synopsis. And really, safety kinda depends on whether Awuzie ends up there. If so, maybe that's because they decide they want to keep White more than they want to keep Frazier.

So many domino effect decisions like that all over this depth chart... e.g., if you keep Keith Smith, maybe he's a hedge against needing that one more linebacker... and, if you like Jarwin, maybe that enables you to feel better about doing that... or, if you decide Cooper is your #2 at C, maybe that lets you keep another skill player you otherwise wouldn't have.
 
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