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I think we messed up with the Carrol signing.


I'd rather have Revis or McCourty on a short term deal.
 

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Witten, Swaim, Rico, and Hanna until I hear differently.

Can't see that unless we're planning on playing two tight ends practically every play. Four is simply too many, when you have about 17 legitimate talent guys on offense fighting for about 5 total roster slots. I like 'em all, too, but someone's not going to survive unless one of them ends up on some injury list (...which of course is altogether plausible too).
 

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Can't see that unless we're planning on playing two tight ends practically every play. Four is simply too many, when you have about 17 legitimate talent guys on offense fighting for about 5 total roster slots. I like 'em all, too, but someone's not going to survive unless one of them ends up on some injury list (...which of course is altogether plausible too).

We generally carry four but we might end up with three.
 

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We generally carry four but we might end up with three.


I stand corrected, kind-of.

2016: 3
2015: 4
2014: 3
2013: 5
2012: 3

While we can debate what constitutes "generally," nonetheless, I think I see a pattern here that bodes well for 4 (or 5).
 

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I stand corrected, kind-of.

2016: 3
2015: 4
2014: 3
2013: 5
2012: 3

While we can debate what constitutes "generally," nonetheless, I think I see a pattern here that bodes well for 4 (or 5).

That's actually significantly different than I thought. 18/5=3.6.

I think they keep Swaim and Rico and Hanna depends on his health which I'm unaware of. But 4 looks closer this year than 3.
 

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I personally would just go with Elliott and McFadden and have Switzer as the 3rd back.
 

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I personally would just go with Elliott and McFadden and have Switzer as the 3rd back.
Could be. There's been talk of having him on the field with Beez. Might as well let him play the Dunbar & jet sweep role. I don't see him being effective as a 2nd TE.
 

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Could be. There's been talk of having him on the field with Beez. Might as well let him play the Dunbar & jet sweep role. I don't see him being effective as a 2nd TE.

I don't think he is an ideal running back, but he could be serviceable as the 3rd RB and fill in Dunbars role. He was a running back earlier in his career. If Montgomery could do it for the Packers it isn't far fetched to think he could fill in there if we need to go long at another position.
 

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I stand corrected, kind-of.

2016: 3
2015: 4
2014: 3
2013: 5
2012: 3

While we can debate what constitutes "generally," nonetheless, I think I see a pattern here that bodes well for 4 (or 5).

I show they started the season with 4 but dropped Andre Smith after 3 games.

The 5 number sounds like the preseason roster.
 

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I went back and looked at first game 53-man rosters. Rest of the year is a moving target, of course.
 

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I did one of those Tim the Tool Man Taylor quizzical "arrrrrrrr????" sounds (...which amazingly enough, I couldn't find a GIF for).

Don't get this one. Interested but skeptical... care to explain?

I'm guessing he just hates Byron.

There's a weird sect of CZ that made voodoo hair dolls of Byron for no explicable reason.
 

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That's actually significantly different than I thought. 18/5=3.6.

I think they keep Swaim and Rico and Hanna depends on his health which I'm unaware of. But 4 looks closer this year than 3.
I think that is wrong, especially 2013. They carried 4 for 3 games and then 3 for the remainder of the season.
 

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What do the Cowboys need?

1. A proven backup quarterback
2. A stable and strong picture for right offensive tackle
3. MLB Smith to prove out and capable to carry the load as projected (no linebackers were added)
 

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I'm guessing he just hates Byron.

There's a weird sect of CZ that made voodoo hair dolls of Byron for no explicable reason.
Yes, most people don't understand the Safety position. They don't watch the All-22 and only see the end of plays with no knowledge of responsibilities.

If they knew what to look for AND watched the All-22, they would see that Jones covered up for a lot of limitations of other players (Carr, Church, Scandrick).
 

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I did one of those Tim the Tool Man Taylor quizzical "arrrrrrrr????" sounds (...which amazingly enough, I couldn't find a GIF for).

Don't get this one. Interested but skeptical... care to explain?

Byron is the match-up safety in our defense. He goes to the slot, he covers TE's, etc. I am a Byron Jones fan.

Marinelli calls the other safety the "strong safety" in his defense, but traditionally, the guy playing single high or deepest is your free safety. Right now, our free safety is Jeff Heath and I think he's not starting caliber. People here love him because he's been in the right place a few (very few) times or believe that he is some sort of reincarnation of Cliff Harris and Bill Bates. So, in my opinion, we still need a quality deep safety.
 

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Byron is the match-up safety in our defense. He goes to the slot, he covers TE's, etc. I am a Byron Jones fan.

Marinelli calls the other safety the "strong safety" in his defense, but traditionally, the guy playing single high or deepest is your free safety. Right now, our free safety is Jeff Heath and I think he's not starting caliber. People here love him because he's been in the right place a few (very few) times or believe that he is some sort of reincarnation of Cliff Harris and Bill Bates. So, in my opinion, we still need a quality deep safety.

I wouldn't disagree that the other starting safety not Byron is yet to be determined, but then, it's not that we need to go find someone... we first need to assess what we've got in-house, and we have multiple candidates.
 
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