What does Lucky Whitehead bring to the football team?

[Richmond Cowboy]

Judgmental would be a compliment compared to the word I have in mind.

Is it a benchable word?

 

[xwalker]

Is it a benchable word?

Yes.

 

[DandyDon52]

Well it certainly isnt good "luck"

 

[jzcowboy]

Moss spent a year at Florida State as a redshirt freshman then transferred to Marshall University. I don't think he ever played a snap for Florida State.

Correct and he was never a small school recruit, he was big time from the beginning.

 

[BAT]

Fair enough but who do we have at the moment behind him?

Now is time to churn the bottom of the roster, take some chances. And Whitehead is at the bottom of the roster. If he's not contributing in AT LEAST ONE of the 3 phases he should not be on the active roster. He does nothing on D, below average at best on ST and is a complete nonfactor on offense. We need all hands on deck the next 3 games which will determine our chances to salvage this season.

 

[Bleu Star]

He may be a fine young man but what exactly does he bring to this football team? Is there nobody on anyone else's practice squad or a FA that could actually be more valuable than Lucky? Perhaps I have missed his value on special teams coverage units but as a receiver or return man he is virtually worthless. There has to be another football player on earth that can contribute more to this team no?

IMHO... He is a very young guy that has shown flashes of future potential. We are trying to place too much on his plate too early. I consider him a bit of a project with potential. Remember, he's a UDRFA. We need more time to tell if he will stick or not. Chances are we won't really know until early next season.

 

[Bleu Star]

I would cut Clutts before I even look in Whitehead's direction.

 

[xwalker]

Correct and he was never a small school recruit, he was big time from the beginning.

He was a small college player because he played at a small school. Where he was recruited does not change that fact.

The post I replied to said small school speed does not translate which was a dumb statement.

Jerry Rice (Mississippi Valley State) was both a small school player and timed slow in the forty but he translated really well to the NFL.

 

[CF74]

Now is time to churn the bottom of the roster, take some chances. And Whitehead is at the bottom of the roster. If he's not contributing in AT LEAST ONE of the 3 phases he should not be on the active roster. He does nothing on D, below average at best on ST and is a complete nonfactor on offense. We need all hands on deck the next 3 games which will determine our chances to salvage this season.

Do you have a free agent WR in mind?

 

[Stash]

So you've determined that he is worthless as a returner after his 1 career punt return and 1 career kick-off return?

As a WR you've determined that he is worthless based on 2 targets with Weed as the QB?

I've determined he's worthless by what we've seen thus far. Not good enough to play receiver, not good enough to be this team's return man.

In summary, not good enough.

For a team so in need of receivers to step up, he shouldn't be on this roster.

 

[xwalker]

I've determined he's worthless by what we've seen thus far. Not good enough to play receiver, not good enough to be this team's return man.

In summary, not good enough.

For a team so in need of receivers to step up, he shouldn't be on this roster.

That's not surprising. You are king of the knee jerk reaction.

 

[Stash]

That's not surprising. You are king of the knee jerk reaction.

While you're the staunch defender type who'll attempt to defend anything and everything Cowboys, even when it obviously sucks.

 

[BAT]

Do you have a free agent WR in mind?

Lots of practice squads with better players, upside as well as college production, than Whitehead and even Street. AJ Jenkins, Tre McBride and Tyrell Williams are all bigger and as fast or faster than Whitehead.

Vince Mayle, Jake Kumerow, Durron Carter are not only bigger but much more physical, have ability to win balls in traffic and do not need as much separation. All are available on other team's PS or are FAs. Cowboys should also give DE Mike Catapano and DT Kenrick Ellis a shot to bolster Run defence. Same with return specialist/scatback like Isaiah Pead or Raheem Mostert to replace Dunbar.

 

[xwalker]

While you're the staunch defender type who'll attempt to defend anything and everything Cowboys, even when it obviously sucks.

Nope. I've never defended Doug Free. I've complained that they don't run enough pick plays on offense. I've complained that they are too predictable in their play calling with over 85% run on 1st down and over 85% pass when in shotgun and on 3rd down. I've complained that there are methods for the defense to combat pick plays but that they are not trying to use them.

If they had cut some player with great potential to keep Lucky then it might be an issue; however, that has not happened.

Fans judging a player that has touched the ball twice and has had 2 passes thrown to him in his entire NFL career is the dumbest thing ever.

Fans are slobbering over C-Mike but he has a 2.5 ypc after two touches. Should they cut him also or do we wait until he has 3 total touches?

 

[John813]

He was one of my pet cats, but I'm surprised that they have kept him on the team, while refusing to use him in the return game. I thought for sure when he made the squad that he would be active on kick and punt returns.
Guess he is showing something in practice that the coaching staff sees something about him, that might get him claimed if waived.

 

[GermanJohn]

He does bring a pretty cool sounding name to the team

 

[Stash]

Nope. I've never defended Doug Free. I've complained that they don't run enough pick plays on offense. I've complained that they are too predictable in their play calling with over 85% run on 1st down and over 85% pass when in shotgun and on 3rd down. I've complained that there are methods for the defense to combat pick plays but that they are not trying to use them.

Congratulations. You and the all-22 film have been able to find all that, have you?

If they had cut some player with great potential to keep Lucky then it might be an issue; however, that has not happened.

It's also the matter of keeping him when you have the ability to sign someone who can better contribute, even a little bit. This team can't afford to have guys doing nothing on this roster. They're not deep enough, they're not good enough.

Fans judging a player that has touched the ball twice and has had 2 passes thrown to him in his entire NFL career is the dumbest thing ever.

You really want to know "the dumbest thing ever"? Idiots who think they know everything better than everyone else. That is truly "the dumbest thing ever".

Fans are slobbering over C-Mike but he has a 2.5 ypc after two touches. Should they cut him also or do we wait until he has 3 total touches?

Do you consider the two situations remotely close to one another or is this another failed attempt to divert from the true subject?

You can watch your all-22 film until your eyes bleed and type until your fingers do the same.

This player brings nothing to the table right now, when the team desperately needs it. If they want to develop him, they can do that on the practice squad and get somebody who can actually play at the NFL level. This current team doesn't have the luxury of keeping guys who can't play right now.

But you go ahead and keep defending this guy.

 

[Doomsday101]

He may be a fine young man but what exactly does he bring to this football team? Is there nobody on anyone else's practice squad or a FA that could actually be more valuable than Lucky? Perhaps I have missed his value on special teams coverage units but as a receiver or return man he is virtually worthless. There has to be another football player on earth that can contribute more to this team no?

He has done about as much as Harris did at the same points in their careers. he does have very good return ability. If cowboys have someone they feel is better then they will put that player in. Cowboys as we are seeing are not opposed to making changes but they do it based on what they see with the players.

 

[xwalker]

Lots of practice squads with better players, upside as well as college production, than Whitehead and even Street. AJ Jenkins, Tre McBride and Tyrell Williams are all bigger and as fast or faster than Whitehead.

Vince Mayle, Jake Kumerow, Durron Carter are not only bigger but much more physical, have ability to win balls in traffic and do not need as much separation. All are available on other team's PS or are FAs. Cowboys should also give DE Mike Catapano and DT Kenrick Ellis a shot to bolster Run defence. Same with return specialist/scatback like Isaiah Pead or Raheem Mostert to replace Dunbar.

The Cowboys had Vince Mayle on their game day 46 man roster. He was the target on Weed's final INT.

They had AJ Jenkins in training camp.

IIRC, they brought in Kendrick Ellis for a workout and declined to sign him. Most of the problems they've had defending the run were not due to the DTs anyway. They've been gashed more on runs just off Tackle.

They did trade for Brice Butler which indicates that they liked him better than any WRs on practice squads.

They signed the RB that the Seahawks cut which indicates that they preferred him to any other available RBs.

Raheem Mostert is interesting but the Eagles cut him and then the Dolphins signed him for 2 weeks then cut him and signed him to their practice squad. They cut him from their practice squad a week later. If they didn't like him enough to keep him on the practice squad that seems like a bad sign.

There probably are some players on practice squads that will eventually be decent players; however, if they sign a guy like Tre McBride they would need to give him a chance. If they are going to cut him because he has 2 drops like people want to do with Lucky, then they might as well not even bother signing him.

Young players have to be given a chance. There's no point cutting 1 and signing another one every week.

 

[Richmond Cowboy]

He has done about as much as Harris did at the same points in their careers. he does have very good return ability. If cowboys have someone they feel is better then they will put that player in. Cowboys as we are seeing are not opposed to making changes but they do it based on what they see with the players.

I'm feeling much better about Lucky after reading some of these posts. Hope he can get an opportunity to break one.