What does Lucky Whitehead bring to the football team?

[Doomsday101]

I'm feeling much better about Lucky after reading some of these posts. Hope he can get an opportunity to break one.

I hope so as well. I understand why some of the fan base is leery, myself I wish these guys could come in Day 1 and produce big but most don't. Harris did not enter the league playing great in special teams but he progressed and developed into a very good return man. people want it now and things do not always happen like that

 

[xwalker]

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Congratulations. You and the all-22 film have been able to find all that, have you?
Yes, I just showed you where you were wrong but you still can't acknowledge it.

It's also the matter of keeping him when you have the ability to sign someone who can better contribute, even a little bit. This team can't afford to have guys doing nothing on this roster. They're not deep enough, they're not good enough.
They traded for Brice Butler which indicates they didn't really like any of the options on practices squads or street free agents.

You really want to know "the dumbest thing ever"? Idiots who think they know everything better than everyone else. That is truly "the dumbest thing ever".
I can't respond without getting banned. You're already on the verge of breaking the rules around here using the work "idiots".

Do you consider the two situations remotely close to one another or is this another failed attempt to divert from the true subject?
In regards to what fans have seen, it's very similar. We've seen 2 runs by C-Mike compared to 4 opportunities for Lucky.

You can watch your all-22 film until your eyes bleed and type until your fingers do the same.
Some people do watch the film and make an effort to be informed while others just go on emotional tirades without any supporting evidence.

This player brings nothing to the table right now, when the team desperately needs it. If they want to develop him, they can do that on the practice squad and get somebody who can actually play at the NFL level. This current team doesn't have the luxury of keeping guys who can't play right now. But you go ahead and keep defending this guy.
I don't have any attachment to Lucky Whitehead. I just don't have enough information as a fan to have an opinion on him. I'm certain that Will McClay and his staff have reviewed the WRs on other team's practice squads and WRs that are street free agents. Also, McClay gets to see all of Whiteheads practice reps which we as fans don't get to see. If McClay sees a better option I think would replace Lucky and sign that player.
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[Stash]

Yes, I just showed you where you were wrong but you still can't acknowledge it.

Sure you did. Despite the fact that the guy has produced absolutely nothing, you've sure 'shown' all of us how wrong we are...

They traded for Brice Butler which indicates they didn't really like any of the options on practices squads or street free agents.

And? Butler actually did have a contribution before he was hurt, and then this team had to further rely on guys like Whitehead and Street and got zero offensive production as a result. Is your point that since they made one move, they're done? Or is it that the Cowboys are infallible and because they've kept Whitehead they know better?[/quote]

I can't respond without getting banned. You're already on the verge of breaking the rules around here using the work "idiots".

And your "dumbest thing ever" comment isn't? Apparently, you can't see your own hypocrisy when it's staring you in the face.

In regards to what fans have seen, it's very similar. We've seen 2 runs by C-Mike compared to 4 opportunities for Lucky.

One guy's "opportunity" has consisted of two plays. Whitehead has been on the field a heckuva lot more than that. Every time Whitehead has seen the filed has been an "opportunity". The fact is that he doesn't know what he's doing and has failed yo capitalize on any of them. And should we ignore the fact that one guy has been here for 6 months and the other guy got here right before the season started or do oh want to gnome that because it further damages your case?

Some people do watch the film and make an effort to be informed while others just go on emotional tirades without any supporting evidence.

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Not "some people", you. Plenty of people watch it, they just don't hen lord it over everyone like they know it all and everyone else is clueless. That's your own exclusive club of one.

I don't have any attachment to Lucky Whitehead. I just don't have enough information as a fan to have an opinion on him. I'm certain that Will McClay and his staff have reviewed the WRs on other team's practice squads and WRs that are street free agents. Also, McClay gets to see all of Whiteheads practice reps which we as fans don't get to see. If McClay sees a better option I think would replace Lucky and sign that player.

Again, a false assumption. Even Will McClay, for as good of a job as he has done, isn't infallible. Nobody in that building is. None of them are beyond question, and it's not disrespectful or arrogant for someone to do so. Believe it or not, this fan has gotten a call or two right that the almighty front office has missed. Nobody's perfect.

I think even as much as you and I disagree, even you would conceded that this team needs any and all help that they can get offensively, specifically at receiver. And both Whitehead have performed poorly when they've been needed most. And for that reason, I think this team - desperate for production and wins - needs to ring in receivers who can do a better job of contributing now. They can't wait and hope that Whitehead might be something down the road.

They just currently don't have that luxury.

 

[Doomsday101]

Sure you did. Despite the fact that the guy has produced absolutely nothing, you've sure 'shown' all of us how wrong we are...





And? Butler actually did have a contribution before he was hurt, and then this team had to further rely on guys like Whitehead and Street and got zero offensive production as a result. Is your point that since they made one move, they're done? Or is it that the Cowboys are infallible and because they've kept Whitehead they know better?

Evidently the Cowboys disagree with you.

 

[xwalker]

One guy's "opportunity" has consisted of two plays. Whitehead has been on the field a heckuva lot more than that. Every time Whitehead has seen the filed has been an "opportunity". The fact is that he doesn't know what he's doing and has failed yo capitalize on any of them. And should we ignore the fact that one guy has been here for 6 months and the other guy got here right before the season started or do oh want to gnome that because it further damages your case?

I've been encouraged by some people in PMs to quit picking on you because they feel sorry for you; therefore, I'm just going to move on.

 

[Stash]

Evidently the Cowboys disagree with you.

So far, it looks that way.

Disappointing.

 

[Stash]

I've been encouraged by some people in PMs to quit picking on you because they feel sorry for you; therefore, I'm just going to move on.

 

[Doomsday101]

So far, it looks that way.

Disappointing.

so far he is a rookie, like it or not it takes time. Harris did not do jack his rookie season. Give the kid the year before writing him off. He did well in returns over the pre season the coaches evidently see something. They are not afraid to make change as we have seen but they still base it on what they see every day as opposed to fans who do not see any of the weeks work

 

[jday]

He may be a fine young man but what exactly does he bring to this football team? Is there nobody on anyone else's practice squad or a FA that could actually be more valuable than Lucky? Perhaps I have missed his value on special teams coverage units but as a receiver or return man he is virtually worthless. There has to be another football player on earth that can contribute more to this team no?

Maybe. Not really sure as I am not well-versed in other team's practice squads (come to think of it, at the moment I can't name one on the Cowboys practice squad). But here's the deal. Lance Dunbar's existence on this team provides an excellent example of what can happen when team's have patience with players. This season was his fourth and in his first 3 years he did next to nothing. Sure, he showed flashes of talent, but never quite lived up to expectations. Then this year in the absence of Dez he becomes the best offensive weapon on the team. I'm not saying that's the future of Whitehead...that's really up to him and rather or not he is willing to put in the work...but if he does he too can become an awesome weapon. But it will take some patience from the team to see that come to fruition.

 

[BAT]

Maybe. Not really sure as I am not well-versed in other team's practice squads (come to think of it, at the moment I can't name one on the Cowboys practice squad). But here's the deal. Lance Dunbar's existence on this team provides an excellent example of what can happen when team's have patience with players. This season was his fourth and in his first 3 years he did next to nothing. Sure, he showed flashes of talent, but never quite lived up to expectations. Then this year in the absence of Dez he becomes the best offensive weapon on the team. I'm not saying that's the future of Whitehead...that's really up to him and rather or not he is willing to put in the work...but if he does he too can become an awesome weapon. But it will take some patience from the team to see that come to fruition.

Dallas Cowboys current Practice Squad:

Edwards, Lavar

DE 6-4 275 4/29/1990 3 Louisiana State
Johnson, Gus

RB 5-10 215 8/10/1993 R Stephen F. Austin St.
Johnson, Dakorey LB 6-2 215 1/14/1992 R Kansas State
Mayle, Vince

WR 6-2 224 6/12/1991 R Washington State
Olatoye, Deji

DB 6-1 194 7/20/1991 1 North Carolina A&T
Showers, Jameill QB 6-1 230 9/6/1991 R Texas-El Paso
Smith, Keith

LB 6-0 232 4/8/1992 2 San Jose State
Smith, Rodney

WR 6-5 220 3/11/1990 3 Florida State
Weems, Darrion

T 6-5 310 9/4/1988 3 Oregon
Wetzel, John

T 6-7 328 7/18/1991 1 Boston College

 

[Stash]

so far he is a rookie, like it or not it takes time. Harris did not do jack his rookie season. Give the kid the year before writing him off. He did well in returns over the pre season the coaches evidently see something.

Under different circumstances, I might agree with you. But given Dez Bryant's absence, Williams' up and down play, and the struggling run game, I don't think this team has that same luxury to patiently wait.

They are not afraid to make change as we have seen but they still base it on what they see every day as opposed to fans who do not see any of the weeks work

Maybe they should be basing it more on what they're continuing to not see on Sundays?

 

[xwalker]

so far he is a rookie, like it or not it takes time. Harris did not do jack his rookie season. Give the kid the year before writing him off. He did well in returns over the pre season the coaches evidently see something. They are not afraid to make change as we have seen but they still base it on what they see every day as opposed to fans who do not see any of the weeks work

Guys like Bradie James and Doug Free didn't do jack as rookies and IIRC they didn't do anything in year two either.

 

[Doomsday101]

Guys like Bradie James and Doug Free didn't do jack as rookies and IIRC they didn't do anything in year two either.

No guarantees with any player but I think Lucky showed some good skills during camp enough to give the coaches a sense that he could develop into a decent WR and return man. I think odds are if Lucky makes it in the NFL it will be as a return man and a 3rd/4th option at WR again much like Harris

 

[xwalker]

No guarantees with any player but I think Lucky showed some good skills during camp enough to give the coaches a sense that he could develop into a decent WR and return man. I think odds are if Lucky makes it in the NFL it will be as a return man and a 3rd/4th option at WR again much like Harris

Agree. Sometimes teams have to give players some time to develop.

When Moore is still on the 53 as the 3rd QB, it's not as if they really need Lucky's roster spot.