What happened to great music?

[iceberg]

Sonny and Cher were a great duo because Sonny wrote the music and Cher, at that time, had a great voice. Cher went to auto-tune for a reason...her voice...like almost all musicians...was shot due to age. And Sonny was no longer writing music for her.





YR

i still like chers music. life after love was autotune but she didnt live by it only used it for that song.

 

[iceberg]

You're right it doesn't totally suck.

There's no quality collection point for it anymore.

And the artists at the top of the totem pole... just leave a lot to be desired.

Maybe I'm still burned over the ****ty way Gaga "celebrated" the music of David Bowie at the Grammys.

quality collection point... gonna borrow that if ok. good way to say it.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

quality collection point... gonna borrow that if ok. good way to say it.

It's yours.

 

[Bill Wooten]

Tom Petty is still putting out quality albums, but there is nowhere to hear it unless you look for his new albums or have Sirius and listen to his channel. Mike Campbell is a great guitar player and is on fire in the last few albums.

I don't understand why Classic Rock stations don't play new songs from Classic Rock artists.

If you are looking for an awesome live band, look for the Drive By Truckers. Great albums, but absolutely fantastic live experience.

 

[iceberg]

Tom Petty is still putting out quality albums, but there is nowhere to hear it unless you look for his new albums or have Sirius and listen to his channel. Mike Campbell is a great guitar player and is on fire in the last few albums.

I don't understand why Classic Rock stations don't play new songs from Classic Rock artists.

If you are looking for an awesome live band, look for the Drive By Truckers. Great albums, but absolutely fantastic live experience.

cause it's not "classic rock". i play new night ranger on my show but don't have it in the stream for example. i play a lot of classic rockers that are still out there today. hell, 3/5 at gas monkey live we'll be fliming shock tu from the early 90s timeframe along w/solinger.

but if these artists have new music i try to find 'em and play 'em. it's a shame the industry is so ... lost these days and all are afraid to do something new as who knows what it will do to their revenue stream as listener acquisition costs are damn high these days and retention is pretty low.

but lost is what it is. it's not like highly repetitive music is new - they've always done that. so it's not shocking to me that JackFM will pick 1 pat benetar song to beat the **** out of for months then maybe, maybe move to another, and the like. old or new music.

 

[TheCount]

Scary isn't it........I can imagine 20 years from now.....on radio station Ksuxx, we play all the greatest hits by Foster the People, Mumford and Sons and the Black Keys as well as Fallout Boy.

Well there's your problem right there, you're still looking to the radio to tell you what good music is.

Seems like there's one of these threads every few months about how things were better "then" than they are "now". Movies, music, whatever.

There's still good music, you just have to find it and there are so many ways to do that without relying on the radio.

 

[YosemiteSam]

While I listen to a lot of different types of music, my favorites are Rock/Metal and Blues. (well, Classical / Symphony too) Of late, (mostly since the year 2000) Blues has been the only quality really coming out on those two music genre. The only major exception is Godsmack. Of course, I consider Godsmack the Black Sabbath of the 90s/2000s. I love me some Groove Metal.

 

[iceberg]

Well there's your problem right there, you're still looking to the radio to tell you what good music is.

Seems like there's one of these threads every few months about how things were better "then" than they are "now". Movies, music, whatever.

There's still good music, you just have to find it and there are so many ways to do that without relying on the radio.

it's not a matter of "how good it used to be" but the music explosion of the 80s and 90s is fueling "classic rock" today. it's shifting up from the REALLY classic rock from the 60s and 70s.

the point is - what music is being put out TODAY to carry "classic" forward in 20 years? i don't care about it being better, worse, the good old days, reminiscing or what - tell me what music today will be filling up classic rock stations in 20+ years? will radio die? i don't think so as local content will be needed regardless of delivery. but regardless - is the trend of music eventually becoming classic rock in jeopardy?

yes there is good music and yes you do have to find it. however, there's simply not as much out there WHICH IS WHY you have to go find it. my point all along is "the machine" we've cussed out for so long was the vehicle that brought us *new* music. it's dead - which is the point here.

 

[TheCount]

it's not a matter of "how good it used to be" but the music explosion of the 80s and 90s is fueling "classic rock" today. it's shifting up from the REALLY classic rock from the 60s and 70s.

the point is - what music is being put out TODAY to carry "classic" forward in 20 years? i don't care about it being better, worse, the good old days, reminiscing or what - tell me what music today will be filling up classic rock stations in 20+ years? will radio die? i don't think so as local content will be needed regardless of delivery. but regardless - is the trend of music eventually becoming classic rock in jeopardy?

yes there is good music and yes you do have to find it. however, there's simply not as much out there WHICH IS WHY you have to go find it. my point all along is "the machine" we've cussed out for so long was the vehicle that brought us *new* music. it's dead - which is the point here.

Why does classic rock still need to be around 20 years from now? This generation has been far more about pop than rock, and it's fine if that's what people are talking about 20 years from now. Chances are there'll be some band that takes pop, mixes it with classic rock and other things and creates a whole new genre.

When I say people have to find it, I don't mean that there isn't as much good music - there's far more good music today than there was 20 years ago, simply because there is far more music overall.

I say people have to find it because the delivery mechanisms have changes from what they were 20 years ago. Radio is no longer how people learn about music, it's dying just like print is dying, I agree. That doesn't mean it's any more difficult to find good music, just that the methods have changed.

 

[iceberg]

Why does classic rock still need to be around 20 years from now? This generation has been far more about pop than rock, and it's fine if that's what people are talking about 20 years from now. Chances are there'll be some band that takes pop, mixes it with classic rock and other things and creates a whole new genre.

When I say people have to find it, I don't mean that there isn't as much good music - there's far more good music today than there was 20 years ago, simply because there is far more music overall.

I say people have to find it because the delivery mechanisms have changes from what they were 20 years ago. Radio is no longer how people learn about music, it's dying just like print is dying, I agree. That doesn't mean it's any more difficult to find good music, just that the methods have changed.

um...pop music has been the constant for every generation and today you can find pop on *any* "rock" station. i won't deny that things are changing and rock on the radio can be and is a niche market right now. pop on the other hand, never has been.

beiber? please...backstreet boys smoked him. beyonce? please. janet jackson would have has her militant *** for lunch. you may disagree and that's fine. likely my own living through it younger that makes me see it in a different light than today.

mixing pop with rock?

man - dunno if there's enough spandex or mullets in the world for such a radical idea.

we will simply disagree on if more music it out today than it ever has been. we had new bands on a weekly to monthly basis in the 80s. who was the last new band to really make a mark this year?

how many last year?

i'm not saying it was any better as it was all different brands of the same generic sound. but there was a lot of it, moreso than i think you see today. unless you look on a weekly basis maybe you don't see it. i have to look on a regular basis for new "rock" for my show and it simply it hard to find to have the variety you had in previous decades.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Why does classic rock still need to be around 20 years from now?

Because I (and everyone who who listens to it) want to listen to it. I did back then, I do now and I will in 20 years.

 

[BigStar]

I was listening to "America's Top 40" for the week ending February 12, 1977...

1 1 TORN BETWEEN TWO LOVERS –•– Mary MacGregor (Ariola America)-13 (2 weeks at #1) (1)
2 4 NEW KID IN TOWN –•– Eagles (Asylum)-9 (2)
3 6 BLINDED BY THE LIGHT –•– Manfred Mann’s Earth Band (Warner Brothers)-13 (3)
4 2 CAR WASH –•– Rose Royce (MCA)-17 (1)
5 7 LOVE THEME FROM “A STAR IS BORN” (Evergreen) –•– Barbra Streisand (Columbia)-10 (5)
6 3 DAZZ –•– Brick (Bang)-17 (3)
7 9 ENJOY YOURSELF –•– The Jacksons (Epic)-14 (7)
8 8 I WISH –•– Stevie Wonder (Tamla)-11 (8)
9 12 I LIKE DREAMIN’ –•– Kenny Nolan (20th Century)-15 (9)
10 11 LOST WITHOUT YOUR LOVE –•– Bread (Elektra)-12 (10)

11 13 FLY LIKE AN EAGLE –•– The Steve Miller Band (Capitol)-9 (11)
12 5 HOT LINE –•– The Sylvers (Capitol)-19 (5)
13 14 WEEKEND IN NEW ENGLAND –•– Barry Manilow (Arista)-12 (13)
14 22 NIGHT MOVES –•– Bob Seger (Capitol)-10 (14)
15 20 YEAR OF THE CAT –•– Al Stewart (Janus)-10 (15)
16 19 DANCING QUEEN –•– Abba (Atlantic)-10 (16)
17 18 HARD LUCK WOMAN –•– Kiss (Casablanca)-9 (17)
18 10 WALK THIS WAY –•– Aerosmith (Columbia)-13 (10)
19 15 YOU MAKE ME FEEL LIKE DANCING –•– Leo Sayer (Warner Brothers)-17 (1)
20 28 GO YOUR OWN WAY –•– Fleetwood Mac (Warner Brothers)-6 (20)

21 21 AIN’T NOTHING LIKE THE REAL THING –•– Donny and Marie Osmond (Polydor)-12 (21)
22 25 BOOGIE CHILD –•– Bee Gees (RSO)-5 (22)
23 17 JEANS ON –•– David Dundas (Chrysalis)-19 (17)
24 26 DON’T LEAVE ME THIS WAY –•– Thelma Houston (Tamla)-9 (24)
25 27 SAVE IT FOR A RAINY DAY –•– Stephen Bishop (ABC)-10 (25)
26 23 YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE A STAR (To Be In My Show) –•– Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis, Jr. (ABC)-23 (1)
27 35 THE THINGS WE DO FOR LOVE –•– 10cc (Mercury)-6 (27)
28 38 RICH GIRL –•– Daryl Hall and John Oates (RCA)-4 (28)
29 32 LIVING NEXT DOOR TO ALICE –•– Smokie (RSO)-11 (29)
30 36 CARRY ON WAYWARD SON –•– Kansas (Kirshner)-8 (30)

31 16 SOMEBODY TO LOVE –•– Queen (Elektra)-12 (13)
32 44 LONG TIME –•– Boston (Epic)-3 (32)
33 24 AFTER THE LOVIN’ –•– Engelbert Humperdinck (Epic)-17 (8)
34 29 SATURDAY NITE –•– Earth, Wind and Fire (Columbia)-13 (21)
35 30 TONIGHT’S THE NIGHT (Gonna Be Alright) –•– Rod Stewart (Warner Brothers)-20 (1)
36 31 STAND TALL –•– Burton Cummings (Portrait)-19 (10)
37 39 MOODY BLUE / SHE THINKS I STILL CARE –•– Elvis Presley (RCA)-8 (37)
38 34 LIVIN’ THING –•– The Electric Light Orchestra (United Artists)-17 (13)
39 49 CRACKERBOX PALACE –•– George Harrison (Dark Horse)-3 (39)
40 48 SAY YOU’LL STAY UNTIL TOMORROW –•– Tom Jones (Epic)-6 (40)

My gosh... just look at that list:

-Eagles
-Manfred Mann
-The Jacksons
-Stevie Wonder
-Bread
-The Steve Miller Band
-ABBA
-Kiss
-Boston
-Kansas
-ELO
-Earth, Wind & Fire
-Rod Stewart
-Bee Gees
-George Harrison
-Aerosmith
-Fleetwood Mac
-Leo Sayer
-Daryl Hall and John Oats
-Queen


Yes.



Today's music does suck.

He called it 20 years ago

 

[BigStar]

Why does classic rock still need to be around 20 years from now? This generation has been far more about pop than rock, and it's fine if that's what people are talking about 20 years from now. Chances are there'll be some band that takes pop, mixes it with classic rock and other things and creates a whole new genre.

When I say people have to find it, I don't mean that there isn't as much good music - there's far more good music today than there was 20 years ago, simply because there is far more music overall.

I say people have to find it because the delivery mechanisms have changes from what they were 20 years ago. Radio is no longer how people learn about music, it's dying just like print is dying, I agree. That doesn't mean it's any more difficult to find good music, just that the methods have changed.

Damn exhausting if you ask me (youtube, UG forums, etc.) I hear your general point in the increase in quantity coupled with the listener taking on the task of finding quality in more ways than just the radio, PR, word of mouth, etc. as it was was more in the 60s-90s. Middle men are being taken out (the dated music industry; but let's not be ignorant about the same industry still having MASSIVE INFLUENCE in who is determined to become a star and who isn't.).

But that doesn't guarantee quality in the least and why most music fans predominately listen to what they listened to as adolescents and young adults (it's just the natural nostalgia effect proving itself to be a generational habit and not personal, etc.).

The other task I agreed with you earlier in regard to outlets to find music is very much true if you are willing to do the dirty work. There are other avenues to investigate via youtube, forums, etc. to find the niche/quality that you may seek as a music listener. I have taken great joy in the luxury of having these great tools to find the music I loved as a teen (underground rap from the early 90s is impossible to find legitimately) so I support you in that regard personally.

 

[jimmy40]

you mean like a fan talk forum vs. off topic?

since this is going to get moved, my answer is rock in itself is pretty sick. you just don't hear new rock at the rate we used to. it does make me wonder what will happen in 10-15 years when "classic rock stations" play the crap out of things that generation grew up with.

when I heard my local classic rock station play a Poison song I pretty much lost hope for the world.

 

[YosemiteSam]

What happen to great music?

Nothing, it's still on my playlist.

 

[YosemiteSam]

when I heard my local classic rock station play a Poison song I pretty much lost hope for the world.

I've always hated Poison. I will admit, they had a few decent songs, but I hated everything about them and what they stood for.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Like this.........




Back in the days before pro tools and auto tune when bands and musicianship were tighter than a drum, and the songwriting /composition was stellar.

Am I old and cranky or was the older stuff just all around better? Or am I just not looking in the right place?

https://youtu.be/2Yz09lNrf7Q
https://youtu.be/j2in3ptL7cM

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

 

[darthseinfeld]

Dont know of you've seen this....



Pretty sick

 

[Junglist]

Pretty much 90% of rap lyrics today have been proven to be on the 3rd grade reading level.