What has Chauncey Golston done on the field to say he a better DT than Hill

[HungryLion]

Golston is just starting his second season.

Hill is starting his 4th.

Golston should be playing outside though.

 

[DanA]

This DL doesn’t need another tweener who hasn’t produced anything at DT or DE to deserve a roster spot over Hill.

I'd argue a lot of it's what he hasn't done. He hasn't wasted three years of development but also, he produced more on the field in his rookie season than Hill has in his three IMO.

 

[AsthmaField]

Maybe we should just pull for both and hope one of them has a great preseason?

 

[baltcowboy]

This DL doesn’t need another tweener who hasn’t produced anything at DT or DE to deserve a roster spot over Hill.

Agreed. Tristan is probably the 3rd best defensive tackle on the team.

 

[kskboys]

This DL doesn’t need another tweener who hasn’t produced anything at DT or DE to deserve a roster spot over Hill.

Hill has enormous potential, Golston is more of a career backup/rotational type.

No idea if Hill will ever put it all together.

 

[kskboys]

If he is available and can’t to do the job at all it’s even more worthless. Hill is the better player and produces, if they let broke back Tyron play part-time then they can let Hill!

At present, Hill may not be better than Golsty. It's a matter of development. Hill is far more talented, so are the coaches seeing enough in practice to continue keep him? That we do not know.

 

[kskboys]

It appears Gholston is much more available on Sunday's
Coaches seem to like that attribute in a player

Absolutely.

However, Hill is much more disruptive. Coaches love that attribute in a player!!!!

 

[kskboys]

Agreed. Tristan is probably the 3rd best defensive tackle on the team.

Looking at the DT list, he might well be 2nd.

 

[RodeoJake]

I blame Marinelli for putting Hill in the doghouse right off the bat and not letting him earn his way out. Hill basically lost his first year of development because Rob was unreasonable. The acl tear also was a bad break. It'd be nice to see him live up to his potential before moving on and doing it for someone else.

 

[G2]

If he is available and can’t to do the job at all it’s even more worthless. Hill is the better player and produces, if they let broke back Tyron play part-time then they can let Hill!

Hill hasn't showed any signs that he is better in twice the time.

Comparing a HOF player like Smith to a practice squad player like Hill is arguably the silliest thing I've read in this thread. I know, it's early.

 

[stilltheguru]

Lmao the delusion

Looking at the DT list, he might well be 2nd.

 

[conner01]

W

This DL doesn’t need another tweener who hasn’t produced anything at DT or DE to deserve a roster spot over Hill.

Golston does have more tackles, sacks and close to the same QB hits in a rookie season as hill has had in 3 yards
There is that

 

[conner01]

If he is available and can’t to do the job at all it’s even more worthless. Hill is the better player and produces, if they let broke back Tyron play part-time then they can let Hill!

Care to post some actual facts he produces
Golston eclipsed his 3 year totals in most every catagory as a rookie

 

[conner01]

Maybe we should just pull for both and hope one of them has a great preseason?

And a great regular season
They are both likely to be here

 

[conner01]

At present, Hill may not be better than Golsty. It's a matter of development. Hill is far more talented, so are the coaches seeing enough in practice to continue keep him? That we do not know.

Hill has more raw talent for sure
Golston was more productive last year than hill has been in 3 years though
I think the light may have came on with hill and he may be healthy and I expect a good season out of him
It’s a contract year so that’s really good motivation
I expect Golston to be here next year too
I don’t expect hill to be here next year
But hopefully both have a great season

 

[OmerV]

Hill has actually produced in regular season unlike Golston and doesn’t get abused in run defense.

Golston has 32 tackles in games, Hill has 27 tackles in 18 games. Not really a notable difference in production. The thing that works against Hill is it took him 3 years to accumulate those 27 tackles and 18 games.

 

[12+88=7]

No he hasn't

On Golston: he isn't a DT, at least on early downs so playing him there would be a huge mistake IMO. He'll get blown off the line against the run. But let's look at the stats and do so knowing he was a rookie and should improve:

Golston
Seasons: 1
Sacks: 1
QB hits: 4
tackles: 32

Hill and to be clear, this is 3 years combined
Seasons: 3
Sacks: 0.5
QB hits: 8
tackles: 27

I'm not saying those are stats you'd pump your chest about for Golston, but your comment that about Hill at least produced in the regular season doesn't even make sense.

The way it should be looked at is games played. Golston 15 games, Hill 18 games.

When Hill started(5 games) in 2020 his second year he actually flashed what most were waiting to see his rookie year. Unfortunately he had the knee injury and lost that year. He was still recovering the next year(last season) and too boot there was a change in the defensive system. Another lost year.

This year is really Hill's best chance since the start of 2020. I am rooting for Hill to make the team and overcome the adversity that he has had in his career so far. If he doesn't, I wish him well.

Golston has not really shown very much. We'll see if he takes the next step his sophomore season.

 

[Jarntt]

The way it should be looked at is games played. Golston 15 games, Hill 18 games.

When Hill started(5 games) in 2020 his second year he actually flashed what most were waiting to see his rookie year. Unfortunately he had the knee injury and lost that year. He was still recovering the next year(last season) and too boot there was a change in the defensive system. Another lost year.

This year is really Hill's best chance since the start of 2020. I am rooting for Hill to make the team and overcome the adversity that he has had in his career so far. If he doesn't, I wish him well.

Golston has not really shown very much. We'll see if he takes the next step his sophomore season.

But whose fault is that? And Hill has played more than 100 more defensive snaps, so the point is still valid.

Plus, you can't give those excuses for Hill not producing and then say Golston didn't produce when he has done more in a shorter time period and was only in his first season. But, I'll state it again, my point isn't Golston was great or even good, it was that the idea the OP put forth that "Hill produced in the regular season" and Golston did not is simply not true.

 

[xwalker]

isaac alarcon went to Dan Quinn and told him Golston deserves the spot.

 

[xwalker]

you hit on the Alarcon thread, Have a beer, sit back puff on a Cuban...let that win marinate for a sec before starting the thread machine again.

Did he?

Because Big Mex did ok vs defenders that won't make a practice squad?