What has Parcells done?

[peplaw06]

These are my rational thoughts.

1. He blasts a rookie or stares down a young player on nationalized TV, but he makes alot of exuses for Bledsoe.

Ever think that maybe Bledsoe isn't solely to blame for the problems? I bet you he blasted Drew for the underthrow to TO that was picked, and holding the ball too long, but other than that, what exactly is something that is solely Drew's fault.

Also, there's a reason BP won't blast Drew in the media. The vast majority of fans want a QB change. BP doesn't want a QB controversy played out in the media. It's not hard to see why he does it.

2. He isn't even considering putting in Tony Romo.

How do you know that Miss Cleo?

3. He continues to be too predictable most of the time. How many times have you watched the Cowboys line up and you knew that they were going to pass or run by the formation they were in?

Funny, I thought our offense had performed pretty well over 4 games, aside from the turnovers. We have a top 5 back... If he's so predictable, how is that possible?

4. Parcells is a hypocrite. He needs to apply the Mike Vandergajt rule of you need to show me that you can still do it to Bledsoe.

He knows Bledsoe. Like he says, "I know the player." He asks guys to show him something when he "doesn't know the player." You're reaching.

5. Playing Testervarde instead of Henson or Romo once the boys were officially eliminated from playoff contention was absolutely inexusable.

You think Romo was ready 3 years ago? We actually put Henson in, and what happened? He's gone. Who's to say if he had put Romo in he wouldn't have done the same thing and come out with a fragile psyche. Don't play like you know BP's QBs better than he does from what you remember seeing on TV.

Fact is neither of those guys were ready. Henson still isn't ready, and we don't know if Romo's ready even now.

 

[burmafrd]

the spud is just looking for reasons to criticise BP- they do not have to make any sense.

 

[Stautner]

If you are going to bash Parcells at least use rational arguments.


These are my rational thoughts.

1. He blasts a rookie or stares down a young player on nationalized TV, but he makes alot of exuses for Bledsoe.

2. He isn't even considering putting in Tony Romo. If anyone else would have played this badly, they would have been riding the pine. He was contemplating benching Gurode because of mental errors, Drew Bledsoe is having huge mental errors right now.

3. He continues to be too predictable most of the time. How many times have you watched the Cowboys line up and you knew that they were going to pass or run by the formation they were in?

4. Parcells is a hypocrite. He needs to apply the Mike Vandergajt rule of you need to show me that you can still do it to Bledsoe.

5. Playing Testervarde instead of Henson or Romo once the boys were officially eliminated from playoff contention was absolutely inexusable.

1. He has coached like that for years - who are you to tell him he should handle things differently? Besides, it's not as if he is giving Bledsoe a ringing endorsement at this point.

2. It's bogus to say he isn't even considering Romo. When asked about it his only comment was "not at this moment" ...... limiting his support of Bledsoe to "this moment" does not exactly show strong support for Bledsoe down the road. Besides, Parcells actions in the preseason should tell you a lot - he practically made it a mission to prove Romo could play well in the NFL.

3. How many times in the 1990's did the Cowboys line up and you knew exactly what play they were going to run ...... ? The difference is that the talent and execution were better in those days.

4. This isn't actually a 4th reason - it's just an add on to Number 2. Which, by the way, was really just an add on to Number 1, so you really only have 3 complaints rather than 5.

I too agree that he needs to consider playing Romo, and I think it's in his mind. It just may happen slightly slower than some would like.

5. Playing Testeverde was inexcusable? I certainly understand the reasoning behind wanting to play Romo and Henson, and I agree with it, but "inexcusable"? That kind of gross overexxageration is much more inexcusable.

Besides, Parcells gave his reasons - he felt like throwing those young guys in before they were prepared would do more harm than good. I personally disagree, but it's not a gross mistake or "inexcusable" decision either.

 

[SultanOfSix]

BP has done an excellent job setting up the organization for future success. Is he a the best, great, or even a very good game day coach? Probably not.

I just can't stand it when he contradicts himself concerning the QB play.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Some people may have "loved him when he came", but there are a minority here who knew what we were getting when Jones signed the drama queen.

He's always had a problem with QBs because he can't stand that someone else may get the credit and love when things go right. Plus he can always find someone else to blame when things go wrong.

Well Stan, I can't say your personal view of the signing but as a whole, most on this board were falling all over themselves about it. In the end, you gotta take the good with the bad. When we had Vinnie here, everybody saw that Vinnie was probably not the best possible solution yet BP stuck with him to the end. When we signed Bledsoe, you had to know that it would be the same. I'm still baffled at how you can look at Bledsoe and conclude that you could win a championship with him. You had to know that once signed, he was here for the long haul. That was the most irritating thing to me but it's done now and you just gotta deal with it. Outside of just a couple of postitions, we have a very strong team IMO. We are not far from being a contender. I think you have to give credit to Parcells for that just as you have to give him credit for signing Bledsoe.

 

[burmafrd]

The real criticism on BP is mainly that he does not appear to be a top game day coach. that is where top assistants would be very valuable and unfortunately neither Zimmer nor Haley fit that description. His staff at the boys has not been that great and that also can be dropped at his feet.

 

[Hoofbite]

These are my rational thoughts.

1. He blasts a rookie or stares down a young player on nationalized TV, but he makes alot of exuses for Bledsoe.

2. He isn't even considering putting in Tony Romo. If anyone else would have played this badly, they would have been riding the pine. He was contemplating benching Gurode because of mental errors, Drew Bledsoe is having huge mental errors right now.

3. He continues to be too predictable most of the time. How many times have you watched the Cowboys line up and you knew that they were going to pass or run by the formation they were in?

4. Parcells is a hypocrite. He needs to apply the Mike Vandergajt rule of you need to show me that you can still do it to Bledsoe.

5. Playing Testervarde instead of Henson or Romo once the boys were officially eliminated from playoff contention was absolutely inexusable.

First off, those are not all your thoughts.....Next time you steal something from Deion Sanders you should let him know about it. Parcells holds everyone accountable. Peter King threw that in an article the other day saying how Deion must have never been at practices because Parcells yells at him fairly often.

Secondly....to use a standardized benching system to make roster moves is just idiotic. The responsibities tied to each position are so vast that if you were to just bench someone because you have a previous history of benching players after X amount of faulters, you would eventually bench the whole team. Dallas went through 3 Kickers last year.......they probably didn't make as many mistakes as Rob Petitti did so why was Rob allowed some freedom. Because his job was magnitudes more difficult then kicking FGs from inside the 40 yard line.

Third....his predictability has the Dallas offense ranked pretty high in scoring....something has to be said about that.....and it would be higher if it were for mental errors on the parts of players not named Drew Bledsoe.....Witten has had a TD negated and TO has dropped 2.

Fourth.....Again, the responsibilities of each position dictate how each player is treated differently. Mike has 1 job because he doesn't kick off. He is supposed to kick FGs.....he takes "mental vacations" on 1 of the 3 plays he is even on the field. Vanderjagt deserves every ounce of ridicule he gets and from anywhere.

So is your 5th point just something you wanted to add to the list just to make it 1 more item longer because that is just ********. Hows Drew Henson doing these days.....what, took him a month to even have a team sniff at him and Romo was what, in his 1st or 2nd year? Good god, no one even knew a damned thing about him.......He was #3 on the depth chart and Drew Henson at the time was not good enough to bump Vinny.....cause he wasn't and Henson was above Romo what does that tell you? Neither player would have had any success and it would have done more harm then good to put them out there.

Now, that does say something about the Progression that Romo has made and you gotta give him credit for that but this last item seems like you were just fishing for 1 more thing to add to the list.


You're rational thoughts are barely rational and are barely yours.

 

[neosapien23]

Ever think that maybe Bledsoe isn't solely to blame for the problems? I bet you he blasted Drew for the underthrow to TO that was picked, and holding the ball too long, but other than that, what exactly is something that is solely Drew's fault.

Also, there's a reason BP won't blast Drew in the media. The vast majority of fans want a QB change. BP doesn't want a QB controversy played out in the media. It's not hard to see why he does it.

How do you know that Miss Cleo?
No, but his track record of playing old quarterbacks is telling enough.

Funny, I thought our offense had performed pretty well over 4 games, aside from the turnovers. We have a top 5 back... If he's so predictable, how is that possible?

Teams are doubling Owens and not stacking the line anymore??

He knows Bledsoe. Like he says, "I know the player." He asks guys to show him something when he "doesn't know the player." You're reaching.

He questions Vandergagt despite his proven track record. Bledsoe's track record is not very good. Bledsoe needs to prove that he is deserving of a starting job, not just be handed it.


You think Romo was ready 3 years ago? We actually put Henson in, and what happened? He's gone. Who's to say if he had put Romo in he wouldn't have done the same thing and come out with a fragile psyche. Don't play like you know BP's QBs better than he does from what you remember seeing on TV.

No he wasn't ready. Game time is how you determine what you have in your quarterback. Funny thing is that a good quarterback will be good despite the theoritical damage to "psyche". Aikman and Peyon Manning got killed their first few years, but you could (tell by watching them) that they were going to be special. Parcells just doesn't have the patience to have a losing season with a you quarterback. Is that what this franchise really needs?

Fact is neither of those guys were ready. Henson still isn't ready, and we don't know if Romo's ready even now.

If Romo isn't ready by his 4th year, then the Cowboys need to trade up in the draft. No way someone should receive 4 years of training and not be ready for any kind of job.

 

[CalCBFan]

BrainPaint, were you the one that criticized my post yesterday about Jerry's signing TO thinking he would be our ticket to beating Philly? I said he should sign a GM, one that would realize that having practiced against TO for 1.5 years, they would know how to take him out of a game. Your point was that your post said something like "...you can't lay this one on Jerry...". Sounds as if you have your mind. If you are not the guy, forget this whole post.

BTW who is this guy Young we signed as a FA? There is no one on the roster (from the official site) named "Young"...

 

[Jarv]

BrainPaint, were you the one that criticized my post yesterday about Jerry's signing TO thinking he would be our ticket to beating Philly? I said he should sign a GM, one that would realize that having practiced against TO for 1.5 years, they would know how to take him out of a game. Your point was that your post said something like "...you can't lay this one on Jerry...". Sounds as if you have your mind. If you are not the guy, forget this whole post.

BTW who is this guy Young we signed as a FA? There is no one on the roster (from the official site) named "Young"...

O-Linemen from the Jets BP brought, he couldn't play and was cut.

 

[neosapien23]

First off, those are not all your thoughts.....Next time you steal something from Deion Sanders you should let him know about it. Parcells holds everyone accountable. Peter King threw that in an article the other day saying how Deion must have never been at practices because Parcells yells at him fairly often.

Secondly....to use a standardized benching system to make roster moves is just idiotic. The responsibities tied to each position are so vast that if you were to just bench someone because you have a previous history of benching players after X amount of faulters, you would eventually bench the whole team. Dallas went through 3 Kickers last year.......they probably didn't make as many mistakes as Rob Petitti did so why was Rob allowed some freedom. Because his job was magnitudes more difficult then kicking FGs from inside the 40 yard line.

Third....his predictability has the Dallas offense ranked pretty high in scoring....something has to be said about that.....and it would be higher if it were for mental errors on the parts of players not named Drew Bledsoe.....Witten has had a TD negated and TO has dropped 2.

Fourth.....Again, the responsibilities of each position dictate how each player is treated differently. Mike has 1 job because he doesn't kick off. He is supposed to kick FGs.....he takes "mental vacations" on 1 of the 3 plays he is even on the field. Vanderjagt deserves every ounce of ridicule he gets and from anywhere.

So is your 5th point just something you wanted to add to the list just to make it 1 more item longer because that is just ********. Hows Drew Henson doing these days.....what, took him a month to even have a team sniff at him and Romo was what, in his 1st or 2nd year? Good god, no one even knew a damned thing about him.......He was #3 on the depth chart and Drew Henson at the time was not good enough to bump Vinny.....cause he wasn't and Henson was above Romo what does that tell you? Neither player would have had any success and it would have done more harm then good to put them out there.

Now, that does say something about the Progression that Romo has made and you gotta give him credit for that but this last item seems like you were just fishing for 1 more thing to add to the list.


You're rational thoughts are barely rational and are barely yours.

I didn't steal Deon's thoughts, but I do share them on Bledsoe.

Secondly, Parcells does have a double standard. He had no problem pointing out Gurode's mental errors and even stated that he would bench him if they continued. He keeps Bledsoe in the game despite his "mental errors" which are too numerous to go into detail about. I do not get upset when Bledsoe takes a sack because of poor Oline play, but I don't think he has any exuse for holding on the ball for over 7 seconds. Those sacks are his fault. He also throws too many ill advised passes. These are not mistakes a 34 year old quarterback should make. A first year quarterback yes, but not a veteran.

As far as not knowing what they had in Romo, so what? testerverde was not taking us to the Superbowl that year. My argument is that Aikman and Manning both played before they were ready. You need to see "real game film" on someone to make a judgement. The practice setting is not enough. I didn't like that Thanksgiving game. Henson was not allowed throw any passes in the middle. He was set up for failure from the beggining.

 

[Stautner]

If Romo isn't ready by his 4th year, then the Cowboys need to trade up in the draft. No way someone should receive 4 years of training and not be ready for any kind of job.

I absolutely agree. The thing is, I think Parcells thinks Romo is ready - or at least very close to it.

I have no doubt that Parcells expects Romo to be the starter next year, no matter what happens this year.

I think the hesitation about using Romo now is that we would have to live with some growing pains as he plays in his first regular season games, and he is concerned that might dig us even deeper in a hole.

 

[burmafrd]

Bp knows that once he pulls Bledsoe he is stuck with Romo for the rest of the year. That is something to think about.
Just how many stupid posts are there going to be that blames DB for most of the sacks. He was responsible for 2, maybe 3. The rest were on the O line. And that is not counting the ones that hit him just as he threw or just after. Most of that is on the O line not DB.

 

[neosapien23]

Bp knows that once he pulls Bledsoe he is stuck with Romo for the rest of the year. That is something to think about.
Just how many stupid posts are there going to be that blames DB for most of the sacks. He was responsible for 2, maybe 3. The rest were on the O line. And that is not counting the ones that hit him just as he threw or just after. Most of that is on the O line not DB.

I suppose the Oline made him throw those interceptions as well. I would have been happy if he would have taken those as sacks instead of throwing the ball. I don't blame Bledsoe for taking all seven sacks, but he should be held accountable for throwing all those picks including the one that ended the game. He had no pressure on that play and still threw to a double covered Witten.

 

[SultanOfSix]

I suppose the Oline made him throw those interceptions as well. I would have been happy if he would have taken those as sacks instead of throwing the ball. I don't blame Bledsoe for taking all seven sacks, but he should be held accountable for throwing all those picks including the one that ended the game. He had no pressure on that play and still threw to a double covered Witten.

I don't understand this myth that keeps being projected that Witten was double covered.

His defender (Trotter) fell down after holding him and Witten was open. Bledsoe just threw it five feet to his left directly into the arms of Shepherd.

Any competent QB who doesn't imagine pressure could have thrown the TD.

 

[Stautner]

I didn't steal Deon's thoughts, but I do share them on Bledsoe.

Secondly, Parcells does have a double standard. He had no problem pointing out Gurode's mental errors and even stated that he would bench him if they continued. He keeps Bledsoe in the game despite his "mental errors" which are too numerous to go into detail about. I do not get upset when Bledsoe takes a sack because of poor Oline play, but I don't think he has any exuse for holding on the ball for over 7 seconds. Those sacks are his fault. He also throws too many ill advised passes. These are not mistakes a 34 year old quarterback should make. A first year quarterback yes, but not a veteran.

As far as not knowing what they had in Romo, so what? testerverde was not taking us to the Superbowl that year. My argument is that Aikman and Manning both played before they were ready. You need to see "real game film" on someone to make a judgement. The practice setting is not enough. I didn't like that Thanksgiving game. Henson was not allowed throw any passes in the middle. He was set up for failure from the beggining.

Jimmy Johnson was well known for having double standards, and even freely admitted as much. Somehow it worked for him ........

As for comparing the situation with our undrafted free agent QB from a small school to Number 1 overall picks in the draft who played for major colleges, I have one comment - ARE YOU SERIOUS?

 

[neosapien23]

Jimmy Johnson was well known for having double standards, and even freely admitted as much. Somehow it worked for him ........

As for comparing the situation with our undrafted free agent QB from a small school to Number 1 overall picks in the draft who played for major colleges, I have one comment - ARE YOU SERIOUS?

I suppose Tom Brady doesn't ring a bell. What about Jake Delhome, what round was he drafted in? Rod Smith, Priest Holmes??? If Romo can play, than so be it. Why live with Bledsoe making rookie mistakes when Romo can make those same mistakes and possibly get better.

I guarantee that if Irving or Aikman couldn't play, they wouldn't have recieved preferential treatment. If Johnson was still the coach of the Cowboys, Bledsoe would have already been on the bench.

 

[Stautner]

I suppose Tom Brady doesn't ring a bell. What about Jake Delhome, what round was he drafted in? Rod Smith, Priest Holmes??? If Romo can play, than so be it. Why live with Bledsoe making rookie mistakes when Romo can make those same mistakes and possibly get better.

You've shot yourself in the foot with this one - the examples of Brady and Delhomme support my position, not yours.

Unlike Aikman and Manning, neither Brady or Delhomme started right away - these guys were much more like Romo than Aikman and Manning.

Delhomme sat for three years and only got the chance to start after he got traded. And the plan was for Brady to learn from the bench longer than he did - he sat a full year and then only took over mduring his 2nd year because Bledsoe got hurt. And Brady at least had the benefit of having played against major competition in college.

As for Rod Smith, the obvious answer is that no one claims the learning curve for a WR is the same as for a QB, but even so, Smith sat the bench for 2 years before he got to play.

Same comment about the learning curve applies to RB, but Holmes sat on the bench for a year as well. And, like Brady, at least had the benefit of playing against major competition in college.

Seems your apples to apples comparison is really more of an apples to tuna fish comparison ..............

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Can anyone give me any benefit to having Parcells?

Seriously, other than stealing Terry Glenn from the Packers, what genius moves has he made to make the Cowboys better?


Yes the '06 team is better than the '02 team but that's the nature of the NFL, worst to first and back again. Other than the perennial also rans in Detroit (bad GM) and Arizona (bad owner) and the expansion Texans, every other team that was as bad as the '02 Cowboys are better than the '06 Cowboys. Marvin Lewis may have some character problems in Cincinatti, but he also has a better team. Lovie Smith also seems to have something going on in Chicago.

Free agents have gone from mediocre (Richie Anderson, Aaron Glenn, Anthony Henry) to disappointing (Rivera, Ferguson) to downright gawdawful (Young). I didn't include this year's because four games is too early to tell anything except for Boiman who is no longer in Dallas.

Some talented players have left also, Lehr, Coakley, Glover, Bryant...

Even look at the drafts. Some great picks like Witten tempered with some horrible picks like Rogers. Nothing special there except he's gone after TEs and LBs at an alarming rate.

Well let's see

Best receiving corps since Irvin and Harper

Best QB since Aikman

Best Corners since Sanders and Smith

Best LBers since the SB years

Best pair of running backs (the key word being pair) since Walker and Dorsett in 1986

Four solid drafts in a row

Now maybe you would prefer the three straight 5-11 seasons under Campo. I know I don't.

 

[kartr]

oh the humanity !!!!

and then there's Bill's deft touch with quarterbacks...I think Bill had a guy visit here that we could have signed but we didn't think he was worth it so he went to play for some football team in North Carolina.....I think his name was Jake D-something.....Don't know if this Jake guy has done much since...

Hell, who needed him - apparently BP sees more in Drew.

Delhomme is mediocre without Steve Smith. We should have traded Galloway for Smith.