What has Parcells done?

[ABQCOWBOY]

Listen to yourself, there are players every day gettin busted for drugs and DUI's and none of them are named Quincy Carter, but they continue to play and he does not. That tells you the stupidity of the decision-makers. Mike Irvin has had more to do with drugs while he was playing and after his career than Carter. If Carter had done any of things you mentioned, I wouldn't want him back, but he hasn't and it's just killing you isn't it.

You may be correct, we may be making a mistake but we are not alone. Nobdoy is trying to sign Quincy. Is it all us? Hard to imagine it is all us Kartr.

When it's all said and done, there are teams out there who could use a decent QB with experience and Quincy continues to be unsigned and out of the league. At some point, you gotta acknowledge that fact.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Listen to yourself, there are players every day gettin busted for drugs and DUI's and none of them are named Quincy Carter, but they continue to play and he does not. That tells you the stupidity of the decision-makers. Mike Irvin has had more to do with drugs while he was playing and after his career than Carter. If Carter had done any of things you mentioned, I wouldn't want him back, but he hasn't and it's just killing you isn't it.

Not killing me.

He is sitting unemployed and no team wants to give him a try because he is still pending a 4 game suspension.

Sounds like it is killing you as you are the one that brings him up.

He could not make it in the NFL as no team has signed him, He could not even make it as a 3rd stringer in the CFL.

Facts are Facts. He is unemployed as a QB in the CFL and NFL. Like it, don't like it, does not kill me because you are the one bringing him up and making outrageous claims.

I got an idea, how bout you start an NFL or CFL team and make QC your starting QB.

 

[joseephuss]

You may be correct, we may be making a mistake but we are not alone. Nobdoy is trying to sign Quincy. Is it all us? Hard to imagine it is all us Kartr.

When it's all said and done, there are teams out there who could use a decent QB with experience and Quincy continues to be unsigned and out of the league. At some point, you gotta acknowledge that fact.

The CFL as well. Two leagues where the QB position is always one of need. QC can't get a job. Must be a conspiracy.

 

[kartr]

First of all try paragraphs... Second of all you have no credibility on this board. And thirdly I got my facts straight. When Pennington was injured, Carter was 2-2, with wins over the Cards and Browns.

And who cares what Santana Moss did, the Jets were 8-4 with Chad Pennington including a 6-1 start. You do the math. That's better that QCar's percentage.

Also, how's that Carter clone Campbell working out in Washington?? I guess Gibbs is hatin on your boy there too. I'm sure if Gibbs put Campbell in, they'd be going to the playoffs.

And finally, IMO Gennaro DiNapoli is the missing link from the 2003 Cowboys. He's the reason we haven't been back to the playoffs. The blocking he gave us in those 7 games he played is sorely missed.

Sounds ridiculous doesn't it? I guarantee you it's no more ridiculous than your assertion that Carter is the missing link. BTW, I don't know if you missed the memo, but Carter isn't in the league anymore, and he's certainly not on the Cowboys roster. Why do you waste your time and mine?

Obviously you're happy about Carter not being here or playing in the league, but what's really rediculous is that you'd rather lose without Carter than win with him. So congrats, you get what you want. No more playoffs.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

You may be correct, we may be making a mistake but we are not alone. Nobdoy is trying to sign Quincy. Is it all us? Hard to imagine it is all us Kartr.

When it's all said and done, there are teams out there who could use a decent QB with experience and Quincy continues to be unsigned and out of the league. At some point, you gotta acknowledge that fact.

It is a massive conspiracy theory by all professional football against QC.

They all have to be wrong, I mean NOBODY is employing this guy.

They all just know that QC is so good that he would destroy any QBs esteem on the roster and they can't have that.

/sarcasm off.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Obviously you're happy about Carter not being here or playing in the league, but what's really rediculous is that you'd rather lose without Carter than win with him. So congrats, you get what you want. No more playoffs.

You have beef with anyone, it should be your boy.

He got the chance of a life time and he either smoked it or snorted it away.

QC has nobody to blame but himself.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

And, the reality is that it is a race issue with kartr, it always has been, and it always will be.

Now, I apologize to everyone that I introduced race into this, but, if you know kartr's history, I'm sorry, but it's as simple as that.

I dont know that it is neccesarily a "race issue" with Katr. I think he is just a big fan of Quincy Carter just like there are fans here of Henson, Romo, Hutch etc etc but he does it to the Nth Degree.

I think he lets that fact get in the way when talking about Carter.

- Mike G.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I dont know that it is neccesarily a "race issue" with Katr. I think he is just a big fan of Quincy Carter just like there are fans here of Henson, Romo, Hutch etc etc but he does it to the Nth Degree.

I think he lets that fact get in the way when talking about Carter.

- Mike G.

No with him I do believe it IS a race issue in favor of QC.

However to be fair it was also a race issue among some other cowboys fans against QC as well.

 

[5Stars]

I dont know that it is neccesarily a "race issue" with Katr. I think he is just a big fan of Quincy Carter just like there are fans here of Henson, Romo, Hutch etc etc but he does it to the Nth Degree.

I think he lets that fact get in the way when talking about Carter.

- Mike G.

Well, hopefully you are right and I am wrong...

 

[Stautner]

I dont know that it is neccesarily a "race issue" with Katr. I think he is just a big fan of Quincy Carter just like there are fans here of Henson, Romo, Hutch etc etc but he does it to the Nth Degree.

I think he lets that fact get in the way when talking about Carter.

- Mike G.

So many great Dallas QB's to worship, and he chooses Carter?

What makes Carter different. Certainly it isn't the skill level - there have been a multitude of Dallas QB's over the years that were clearly better.

If he want's a black QB he should worship Cunningham or Peete - better QB's and better guys.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

So many great Dallas QB's to worship, and he chooses Carter?

What makes Carter different. Certainly it isn't the skill level - there have been a multitude of Dallas QB's over the years that were clearly better.

If he want's a black QB he should worship Cunningham or Peete - better QB's and better guys.

Cunningham was better when he was in Philly and Minny.

Heck he was the offense in Philly.

However I lost some respect for him when he came here as it seemed he was content by just sitting on the bench and collecting a check when they asked him to step up.

Still give him respect for being a one man offense in philly with a coach that did not care if he had help on his side of the ball.

 

[Stautner]

Cunningham was better when he was in Philly and Minny.

Heck he was the offense in Philly.

However I lost some respect for him when he came here as it seemed he was content by just sitting on the bench and collecting a check when they asked him to step up.

Still give him respect for being a one man offense in philly with a coach that did not care if he had help on his side of the ball.

Admittedly he wasn't in his prime, but he was still a better player than Quincy - and a smarter guy and a better guy.

Peete was always barely avereage - but a good guy.

 

[5Stars]

So many great Dallas QB's to worship, and he chooses Carter?

What makes Carter different. Certainly it isn't the skill level - there have been a multitude of Dallas QB's over the years that were clearly better.

If he want's a black QB he should worship Cunningham or Peete - better QB's and better guys.

See, this is the thing that I don't understand about kartr...because really, I think kartr knows football because in other dicussions he actually says things that are knowlegable about the game...so he's not dumb!

So, I have always thought that kartr is really Quincy himself, or kartr is QC's dad, mom, brother, sister, someone related to QC...I mean, come on here, what else could it be other then a racial issue?

kartr always compares QC to other black QB's, like Cambell for instance, who has not done nothing...and I've read him saying that if posters could support their white QBs, then he has the right to support a black QB...which is alright, I don't see a problem with that at all...

It's just amazing how he puts someone like Quincy on this big pedestal, when everyone in the football world does not want anything to do with him!

I don't put kartr on "ignore" because he does come up with stuff that I totally agree with, however, when it comes to the QB position, even after all this time, he still supports Quincy and tells the world that every NFL organization is stupid for not having QC as their QB...

In a sense, it's admirable of kartr to support QC, but, in the same token...it makes absoutely no sense whatsoever!

Now, if kartr is not a relative, and QC is not playing QB for any team, what are we supposed to think about kartr's support for this guy? It has to be something else...it just has to be....

I just wish kartr would drop the QC stuff! It's over...it's said and done! Nothing is going to change anytime soon...

But, kartr is a good guy...and hopefully Quincy will find his way also....

 

[joseephuss]

See, this is the thing that I don't understand about kartr...because really, I think kartr knows football because in other dicussions he actually says things that are knowlegable about the game...so he's not dumb!

So, I have always thought that kartr is really Quincy himself, or kartr is QC's dad, mom, brother, sister, someone related to QC...I mean, come on here, what else could it be other then a racial issue?

kartr always compares QC to other black QB's, like Cambell for instance, who has not done nothing...and I've read him saying that if posters could support their white QBs, then he has the right to support a black QB...which is alright, I don't see a problem with that at all...

It's just amazing how he puts someone like Quincy on this big pedestal, when everyone in the football world does not want anything to do with him!

I don't put kartr on "ignore" because he does come up with stuff that I totally agree with, however, when it comes to the QB position, even after all this time, he still supports Quincy and tells the world that every NFL organization is stupid for not having QC as their QB...

In a sense, it's admirable of kartr to support QC, but, in the same token...it makes absoutely no sense whatsoever!

Now, if kartr is not a relative, and QC is not playing QB for any team, what are we supposed to think about kartr's support for this guy? It has to be something else...it just has to be....

I just wish kartr would drop the QC stuff! It's over...it's said and done! Nothing is going to change anytime soon...

But, kartr is a good guy...and hopefully Quincy will find his way also....

Well put.

 

[Ratmatt]

You won't get an argument from me. :bang2:

You even left out a few stupid moves he(they?) has made like:

1. The Vinny Intercepteverde experiment.
2. Signing Vanderjagt instead of Vinatieri, KNOWING Vandy can't handle kickoffs and then complaining about having to take 2 kickers to games.
3. Signing Terrell Owens instead of Steve Hutchinson. OL was the problem on offense last year, not WR.
4. NOT drafting a QB or WR.
5. Drafting Carpenter, who isn't even playing, in the 1st round instead of a position of need or at least a guy who might actually be active on game day.
6. Cutting Emmitt Smith in favor of Troy Hambrick. I can understand letting Emmitt go for cap reasons but going with Hambrick as our feature back? Just plain stupid (and no, that's not hindsight on my part, I knew Hambrick was a loser from the start).
7. Signing Rivera instead of Wahle.
8. Signing Eddie George even though anyone with half a brain could see that he was finished a couple of years earlier.
9. Sticking with Bledsoe even after last season and now after his horrible performances against good teams this year.
10. (Should be #1) Keeping Mike Zimmer as the DC.

I know Zimmer takes alot of ripping on here,but I believe he is running the defense the way Parcells wants it ran.So blame Parcells for that also.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Benefit? It is tough when we are mad about losing

 

[CaptainMorgan]

I guess people forget Jerry in all of this.

NO deal can be done without Jerry's OK.

Jerry did exactly what we were all clamoring for him to do. He hired an alleged real coach and backed off.

I think Parcells has had the final say in personnel from day 1, especially in the draft.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Jerry did exactly what we were all clamoring for him to do. He hired an alleged real coach and backed off.

I think Parcells has had the final say in personnel from day 1, especially in the draft.

Jerry has final say PERIOD.

Jerry has said it, Bill has Said it.

If Jerry is ok with someone bill wants to bring in than it goes forward.

If Bill wants to bring someone in but Jerry does not, both have said Jerry has final Say.

If Jerry wants to bring in someone and bill does not the tiebreaker is Jerry again.

Now he may go along with what bill says, but make no mistake he always has final say.

 

[CaptainMorgan]

Jerry has final say PERIOD.

Jerry has said it, Bill has Said it.

If Jerry is ok with someone bill wants to bring in than it goes forward.

If Bill wants to bring someone in but Jerry does not, both have said Jerry has final Say.

If Jerry wants to bring in someone and bill does not the tiebreaker is Jerry again.

Now he may go along with what bill says, but make no mistake he always has final say.

ok I can buy that, but I still think Jerry has backed off alot and has given Parcells the latitude to build the team the way he sees fit.

 

[burmafrd]

Bp pretty much has what he wanted- but not all of it. I know he wanted a better O line- but things just have not gone his way there. Some bad picks like Rogers and Peterman and some bad luck with FA's like Young and Rivera.