What has Parcells done?

[Stautner]

Right on Al, some of the blame also belongs to the coaching staff that was the worst DB blitz, I've ever seen yes Ellis, had a chance for a sack but it was side stepped for 87 yd bomb to Hank Baskett that is what I didn't understand.

And that call on the offense with 38 seconds in the 4th qt, where the Eagles, gave us 1st&Goal with an interference call why would they even call that pass play when all the had to do was feed it to JuJu at the six yard line only for the pass to be intercepted and ran for 102 yds for a TD, by Sheppard everybody deserves the blame but that was some poor game planning by the coaches as well.

Do you understand about punctuation .........?

As for why we called that pass - WE HAD NO TIMEOUTS.

Notwithstanding your belief that a hand off to Julius would have been a certain TD, if it hadn't worked we wouldn't have been able to stop the clock.

By throwing the ball we should have had 4 chances to score the TD if needed, and since the clock stops on an incompletion we would have plenty of time to call a play and set up the offense each time.

Running the ball and failing would have meant either (A) forcing the offense to scramble around with time running down and try to get a play off quickly (not desireable), or (B) spiking the ball and wasting a down - thereby leaving us with only 3 possible shots at the end zone rather than 4.

It isn't difficult to understand, and criticizing the coaching over this shows a lack of knowledge of the game.

The "poor game planning" you were referring to was actually a poor decision and poor throw by Bledsoe - nothing more.

 

[BeWare94]

Not even making a phone call to Drew Brees.

What about not even making a phone call to Dom Capers who is a master of the 3-4 when the Texans fired him? Our defense would be kicking *** if we had a coordinator who knew how to employ the system.

 

[peplaw06]

Get your facts straight, Carter played in 5 games but started 3, winning 2 or 2/3 or 66%. Jets fans were saying that Santana Moss was a wasted 1st round pick because he had not been that productive,finishing in the 30th percentile statistically, but the 3 games that Carter started, Santana magically was transported to a top 5 receiver in yards per catch, catchs and touchdowns;after Pennington comes back, Moss dropped back down to the 30th percentile. Read between the lines, with Pennington as the starter, Moss underachieves, with Carter as the starter, Moss is an elite receiver. Why do you think Gibbs traded Coles for Moss;because he obviously saw the same thing I did. He didn't sign Carter because he could get Jason Campbell, a Carter clone. REad between the lines on this one too,Carter helps Bill get to the playoffs quicker than he had ever before and then helps the Jets get to the playoffs the following year,which none of the other Jets backup qb's could do;meanwhile, Dallas hasn't been back to the playoffs since Carter left,despite all the improvements they've made. Carter is the one missing factor in both the Jets and Cowboys struggles.

First of all try paragraphs... Second of all you have no credibility on this board. And thirdly I got my facts straight. When Pennington was injured, Carter was 2-2, with wins over the Cards and Browns.

And who cares what Santana Moss did, the Jets were 8-4 with Chad Pennington including a 6-1 start. You do the math. That's better that QCar's percentage.

Also, how's that Carter clone Campbell working out in Washington?? I guess Gibbs is hatin on your boy there too. I'm sure if Gibbs put Campbell in, they'd be going to the playoffs.

And finally, IMO Gennaro DiNapoli is the missing link from the 2003 Cowboys. He's the reason we haven't been back to the playoffs. The blocking he gave us in those 7 games he played is sorely missed.

Sounds ridiculous doesn't it? I guarantee you it's no more ridiculous than your assertion that Carter is the missing link. BTW, I don't know if you missed the memo, but Carter isn't in the league anymore, and he's certainly not on the Cowboys roster. Why do you waste your time and mine?

 

[BeWare94]

I guess people forget Jerry in all of this.

NO deal can be done without Jerry's OK.

Jerry's blameless in this one. He hired a reputable head coach and got him what he needed/asked for and let him coach. That's what good owners do.

I'm the first to blame Mr. Jones when he's guilty but he's really blameless in this situation.

 

[kartr]

This whole Nostalgia thing with the 2003 Defense kills me.

The 2003 Cowboys Defense was the number 1 defense overall, but I dont think anyone felt they were "really" the best defense in the entire NFL.

It has only been 4 Freakin games into the Season and the 2006 Cowboys Defense is behind the 2003 defense?

Let me try to explain this as simple as I can.


The 2003 Cowboys opened up against a Vickless Falcons team, eventual 4-12 Giants team in which they surrendered 32 points, and eventual 6-10 Jets team, The Cardinals (do I need to say anything), and Eagles (who won the East), Lions? Tampa Bay (7-9).

The 2003 Cowboys benefited from a very Cush and Easy Schedule and gave up 30+ points twice in a season and almost that much in our Playoff Blowout. The 7 out of the first 8 opponents the 2003 Cowboys played didnt even make the playoffs and only 3 out of 16 of the 2003 opponents even made the playoffs (You can count Miami I guess, they were 10-6 but the AFC was strong and you saw what happened on TG).

The 2006 Cowboys have played 2 teams that will probably make the Playoffs (Jags would if they were in the NFC) and still may in the AFC.

2003 > 2006 and I am a blind fan Man please...

The only thing that was better about the 2003 Defense is the philosophy. Zimmer (or Parcells depending on who you want to believe) was extremely aggressive that year even though we had inexperience in the secondary.

- Mike G.

I agree about the 2003 defense, they had a much easier run of it playing against a bunch backup and inexperienced qb's. On the other hand, our offense with a qb with just 15 games of experience, a slug rb in Hambrick and receivers who dropped 30 passes that year were going up against the Patriots and Panthers' superbowl defenses,plus the Bills no.3 defense, the Dolphins defense and the Eagles defense that got to the NFC Championship, not to mention Tampa's superbowl defense. In fact, 8 of our opponents finished in the top 10 in total defense. Our offense was number one for the first 6 weeks, until everyone figured out that Hambrick(3 100 yard games) was a liability. Carter at least threw for 288 yards against the Dolphins, 210 yards against the Pats and 254 yards against the Panthers and 560 yards in 2 games against the Giants and 290 yards against the Saints, while Hambrick ran for less than 100 yards against all the those teams put together.

 

[BeWare94]

Some people may have "loved him when he came", but there are a minority here who knew what we were getting when Jones signed the drama queen.

He's always had a problem with QBs because he can't stand that someone else may get the credit and love when things go right. Plus he can always find someone else to blame when things go wrong.

this is also why Emmitt had to go...As long as the greatest running back of all time resided in Dallas, Parcells couldn't ever be alone at center stage. That's probably his objection with Terrell Owens as well.

 

[peplaw06]

Holy Cow, you're right, he did say that...

I think the reason no one noticed it before is that 90% of the board has him on ignore.

You're right, no one even acknowledges him anymore, except me. I guess I missed the ignore memo.

For the rest of you who may be plucking your eyes out by reading his comments... Ignore kartr

 

[BeWare94]

Saying that Bledsoe is the best QB since Aikman is like saying she's the prettiest girl in Canada. May sound nice but not much to brag about. Besides, comparing QB ratings, it's not so clear cut that Bledsoe's any better than Carter or Testaverde despite having superior talent around him.


Dallas' drafts since he's been here haven't been that great either. A little luck has kept them from being pisspoor. If the Jets would have passed on Robertson in '02, we wouldn't have Newman and remember Detroit took Kevin Jones before Dallas could move back up after him.

Why do people keep mentioning Dave Campo like if we don't have Parcells we get Campo? There are other coaching candidates out there.

 

[Stautner]

this is also why Emmitt had to go...As long as the greatest running back of all time resided in Dallas, Parcells couldn't ever be alone at center stage. That's probably his objection with Terrell Owens as well.

This is the most incredibly stupid thing I've read today - and that includes a lot of stupid things.

In New York he had one of the highest profile players of all time - Lawrence Taylor.

It's mind boggling that you could actually think that Parcells intentionally avoids star players yet has had a highly successful coaching career.

The logic didn't fly out the window - it was never there.

 

[5Stars]

Why do you waste your time and mine?

You are peeing against the wind, peplaw06...

There is absoutely NOTHING you can say that will convince kartr that Crankcase is nothing more then a bum...

kartr has it stuck in his head that Crankcase is the best QB to ever grace a football field...Crankcase can take the Okland Raiders to the Superbowl this year of only they would sign him!

Also, he never answers the question, "Where is Carter today, and how come he is not playing football for any team"? He just will not answer the question, because he does not want to hear it, and he does not want to live in reality.

And, the reality is that it is a race issue with kartr, it always has been, and it always will be.

Now, I apologize to everyone that I introduced race into this, but, if you know kartr's history, I'm sorry, but it's as simple as that.

It get old, real fast...however, you will never change his mind. It's amazing how many thousands and thousands of football fans and players will tell you the QC was never really that good, that he was just an average QB, but, karter and a few others will tell you he's the best QB to ever come into the NFL...but, the man brought him down...Carter had nothing to do with it...it was always someone else's fault....

Very sad...

 

[peplaw06]

And, the reality is that it is a race issue with kartr, it always has been, and it always will be.

Now, I apologize to everyone that I introduced race into this, but, if you know kartr's history, I'm sorry, but it's as simple as that.

It get old, real fast...however, you will never change his mind. It's amazing how many thousands and thousands of football fans and players will tell you the QC was never really that good, that he was just an average QB, but, karter and a few others will tell you he's the best QB to ever come into the NFL...but, the man brought him down...Carter had nothing to do with it...it was always someone else's fault....

Very sad...

I didn't want to say it, but it's painfully obvious. I have him on ignore now, so I won't waste any more of my time.

 

[kartr]

Wait...let me get this straight...

Are you telling us that Parcells called JJ to see if he could become the coach of the Cowboys BECAUSE Carter was in Dallas at the time?

Please tell me that I read that wrong! Because if that is what you are trying to convey, you have just reached a new low...!



Did anyone else read it that way, or was it just me?

You read it right. Parcells passed on Jake Delhomme and Brian Griese and had no interest in Jake the Snake. He also didn't draft a qb. He said he believed Carter was a better qb than Hutch from start to finish and regrets having to let him go. He probably saw Carter lead us to come from behind wins against the Rams on the road and Carolina at home and knew that the team had talent, just nobody to coach it in 2002. He also saw the stupidity in benching Carter in 2002 when we were 3-4 and right in the middle of the playoff race, then go 2-9 without Carter against easier competition and miss the playoffs, yet Jerry standing there like an idiot talking about how he still liked Hutch's potential. So much for Hutch's potential. You and others may not like it, but the most consistent play we've had over the last few years have been with Q-Car as our starter. We weren't a laughing stock in 2003 and played some of the most entertaining football in years, beat the snot out of weak teams and winning some close games against good teams. This team is a long way from inspiring the confidence that that team did, and we didn't have a qb controversy either.

 

[kartr]

I'm glad someone else sees this - what a joke to still be pining over the loss of a guy that no one in the NFL or Canada wants.

A lot of teams could use him now as they are struggling at the qb position. Count them, the Raiders,cleveland,Miami, 9'ers,Arizona, the Bills, the Jets, Houston,KC,Atlanta, Washington, oh and Dallas. Yeah, they all look real smart right now. Not.

 

[5Stars]

This team is a long way from inspiring the confidence that that team did, and we didn't have a qb controversy either.

No, maybe no QB controversy...but we did have a weak minded druggie who blew his life away while toking on the bong! That's what is sad...

I have to admit, I rooted for him, and he did have some good qualities as a QB, but, he was not, and is not, what you talk him up to be...because if he was, four game suspension or not, teams would be jumping to give him another chance...and that, Mr. karter is very telling that it's not happening...

 

[joseephuss]

A lot of teams could use him now as they are struggling at the qb position. Count them, the Raiders,cleveland,Miami, 9'ers,Arizona, the Bills, the Jets, Houston,KC,Atlanta, Washington, oh and Dallas. Yeah, they all look real smart right now. Not.

The 49ers, Arizona and the Bills are growing with young QBs. Have you even watched their games? Those young guys are showing something and Leinart is only a rookie. I don't think they regret not having Quincy.

The Jets also don't regret not having him. He bailed on them. Do you not remember that?

Atlanta? Right. I am sure they would have QC over Vick. No, that would be a dream world.

The other teams you listed probably do want better QBs, but that still does not apply to QC. Better QBs don't screw themselves out of jobs and stay off the field for two seasons. No one regrets passing on QC and it is because of his attitude and off the field problems. That is reality.

 

[kartr]

kartr has extreme man love for Quincy Carter.

QC could be on a 12 day coke binge and kill a family of three and he would still clamor to bring carter back or try to defend him somehow.

In other words take anything he says about QC with a grain...no mountain, of salt.

Listen to yourself, there are players every day gettin busted for drugs and DUI's and none of them are named Quincy Carter, but they continue to play and he does not. That tells you the stupidity of the decision-makers. Mike Irvin has had more to do with drugs while he was playing and after his career than Carter. If Carter had done any of things you mentioned, I wouldn't want him back, but he hasn't and it's just killing you isn't it.

 

[kartr]

The Jets could have signed me, and I would have won two games against the Cards and Browns by 13 points combined.

You couldn't even beat me out or Bollinger.

 

[5Stars]

A lot of teams could use him now as they are struggling at the qb position. Count them, the Raiders,cleveland,Miami, 9'ers,Arizona, the Bills, the Jets, Houston,KC,Atlanta, Washington, oh and Dallas. Yeah, they all look real smart right now. Not.

So, you just indicted Carter, right here!

If those teams were that desperate, then why not sign him? Those teams are all PROFESSIONAL football organizations that have some good history, yet, you say they look stupid right now because they don't have QC?

Come on, kartr...wise up...

 

[kartr]

Math

A = B
A = 1 failed drug test
B = 0 starts for the Cowboys in 2004

C= D+E+F+G
C = 1 bailing on his Jets teammates in 2004
D = 1 missed opportunity to be the Jets QB instead of an injured Pennington in the playoffs
E = 0 chances of being re-signed by the Jets in 2005
F = 0 chances to be signed by any NFL team
G = 4 probable game suspension if ever signed again

H = I+J
H = 1 I'm too good to compete for a job attitude
I = 1 team that cut him in the CFL
J = 0 other CFL teams that have tried to sign him

That is some scary math. I would hate to see that on the SAT.

That's not math, it's gobbledy goop.

 

[joseephuss]

Listen to yourself, there are players every day gettin busted for drugs and DUI's and none of them are named Quincy Carter, but they continue to play and he does not. That tells you the stupidity of the decision-makers. Mike Irvin has had more to do with drugs while he was playing and after his career than Carter. If Carter had done any of things you mentioned, I wouldn't want him back, but he hasn't and it's just killing you isn't it.

Mike Irvin had more to do with top notch football than Carter.