What historical event fascinates you the most?

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The event of how people quickly forget history only to repeat the same mistakes. It's very sad, but inevitable. Probably the sole true reason I decided against having biological children.

Too many ******* morons living on this planet that will drive civilizations destruction and the suffering of all.
 

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On a WW2 theme, the "Doolittle Raid" fascinates me.

The pieces that had to be put together in order to pull off that raid were amazing.

And the effects of the raid itself were negligible the psychological affects to both the US and Japan were powerful.
 

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The event of how people quickly forget history only to repeat the same mistakes. It's very sad, but inevitable. Probably the sole true reason I decided against having biological children.

Too many ******* morons living on this planet that will drive civilizations destruction and the suffering of all.
I always suspected it was because you were a lethal lover.

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Attacking Pearl Harbor really was not the most obvious choice. It's not that FDR knew or not, it's whether he made the right choice to defend which area. The only real fact that points toward him knowing was a telegram that POed him. No one knows what it really says.

On the flip side, our carriers were not there. By WWI already, battleships had become obsolete. So, did we let them destroy a pile of obsolete ships? Possible.

As a side note, there are many horrific decisions one has to make when in charge. It's never easy.
That's what has always fascinated me the most about it. If he did allow it to happen, how he must have struggled with that decision and how many on the inside took that to the grave with them?

The difference between his decision and Johnson's to go all in on Vietnam was FDR and Eisenhower knew the war would come to us if we didn't go to it. But in both cases, the military was ready to get it on and the rest of the country was not..until Pearl.
 

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Militarily I think Pearl Harbor was a tactical victory for Japan in that they destroyed a lot of stuff and killed thousands with little loss to themselves, it was a strategic loss. All they did was p-off the US.

And yeah what they did destroy at Pearl was as you said most obsolete.
Japan had like never lost a war. By that I mean in like thousands of years or something like that. They felt indestructible.

Militarily, Pearl Harbor did little damage.
 

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Militarily I think Pearl Harbor was a tactical victory for Japan in that they destroyed a lot of stuff and killed thousands with little loss to themselves, it was a strategic loss. All they did was p-off the US.

And yeah what they did destroy at Pearl was as you said most obsolete.
And why were the more critical pieces of the armada not there? I think they thought they would strike a more crippling blow because their failure led to Midway where the results leaned on luck as much as planning. As did a lot of the war in Europe. When we examine the fine line of defeat/victory in WWII, it is fascinating how much luck played into it. Guessing right turned out to be as important as strategy.
 

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WWII

I am no expert on it by any means but I do enjoy reading about it, watching WWII movies, Documentaries and the like.

Also enjoy the different weapons, uniforms and so on.

On a slightly, stretch, related note.

While in the military a few buddies and I would spend hours playing a board game about WWII called Axies and Allies....great game. Have not played it since I left the military.
 

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Japan had like never lost a war. By that I mean in like thousands of years or something like that. They felt indestructible.

Militarily, Pearl Harbor did little damage.
For the size of their country, they were a mighty force and bullied larger countries like China. I have a Chinese/Japanese friend and she said the difference in the two is really remarkable. The arrogance of the Japanese back then far out reached Hitler's master race and they considered themselves to be superior to every race on earth and in history. They could never be defeated.

She is my age and there's this little talked about shady dealing this country was part of and the story should be told. We all know about the internment camps back then but what has not come to light was how the opportunists used that to seize all of the property of those people, never to be returned, and how some even set up Japanese businesses so they could take that over. There was a lot of money made on real estate in SoCal in the years after WWII and a lot of that was formerly owned by Japanese-Americans, who's rights were trampled on.
 

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The event of how people quickly forget history only to repeat the same mistakes. It's very sad, but inevitable. Probably the sole true reason I decided against having biological children.

Too many ******* morons living on this planet that will drive civilizations destruction and the suffering of all.
Stop trying to cheer me up.
 

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WWII

I am no expert on it by any means but I do enjoy reading about it, watching WWII movies, Documentaries and the like.

Also enjoy the different weapons, uniforms and so on.

On a slightly, stretch, related note.

While in the military a few buddies and I would spend hours playing a board game about WWII called Axies and Allies....great game. Have not played it since I left the military.

A&A’s and Risk, two great board games that I have sunk many hours into.
 

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Titanic, Texas Revolution, Civil War and WW2.....

Titanic was the first non-fiction topic I can remember reading about as a kid, been fascinated with it ever since

I agree we need more WW1 movies though, and the American Revolution deserves more as well.....


Growing up in DFW, there's always a renewed interest in the JKF assassination whenever I go to Downtown Dallas, its very eerie to drive down that road while visualizing all the footage of him getting shot that we've all seen hundreds of times.....
 

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WWII

I am no expert on it by any means but I do enjoy reading about it, watching WWII movies, Documentaries and the like.

Also enjoy the different weapons, uniforms and so on.

On a slightly, stretch, related note.

While in the military a few buddies and I would spend hours playing a board game about WWII called Axies and Allies....great game. Have not played it since I left the military.

Gotta say whomever designed Germany's uniforms in WWII...

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I mean that just screams "We're the baddies".
 

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And why were the more critical pieces of the armada not there? I think they thought they would strike a more crippling blow because their failure led to Midway where the results leaned on luck as much as planning. As did a lot of the war in Europe. When we examine the fine line of defeat/victory in WWII, it is fascinating how much luck played into it. Guessing right turned out to be as important as strategy.
The weather played a large part in the outcome of that war.
 

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On a WW2 theme, the "Doolittle Raid" fascinates me.

The pieces that had to be put together in order to pull off that raid were amazing.

And the effects of the raid itself were negligible the psychological affects to both the US and Japan were powerful.
That's the same as Pearl Harbor, more of a moral victory for them than a military one. Can you imagine how they were celebrating in Japan after Pearl? Only to see Doolitte's guys heading for Japan.

As far as for the potential for the end of civilization, how about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Human beings finally had the instrument for their own demise. Weapons were so important to humans that they would accept officials and scientists from the enemy and hide them for future use.
 

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The Holocaust and the Civil War.

The same forces that were at play at the beginning of each event unfortunately are becoming more prevalent in our society today. We appear to have forgotten the past and/or never learned from it. I'm concerned for my country. :(
 
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