What I Don't Understand About Cowboys Fans?

[jnday]

Hos, we have had this discussion before. The reason is that some of us are older than dirt and remember the Landry days of winning. We also remember the Jim Johnson days of winning and how it felt to be a Cowboys fan. Then Jerry thought he was more talented than any other QMs, scouts, and coaches. So we Cowboy fans have now seen 16 years of losing and it feels bad. We the old timers have seen the trends and have a real good handle on what the Jerry philosophy is and this is why we want to teach this old dog new tricks.

Exactly. I remember a time when making the playoffs were a given. The only question every year was " Are the Cowboys in the Super Bowl?". Some fans will never forgive Jerry Jones for taking an organization that was defined by class and making it a three ring circus. Cowboy fans expected the best and they got it. With the exception of Cowboys Stadium, how has the Cowboys' fans been rewarded for their loyalty the last 15 years?

 

[AmericasTeam81]

Exactly. I remember a time when making the playoffs were a given. The only question every year was " Are the Cowboys in the Super Bowl?". Some fans will never forgive Jerry Jones for taking an organization that was defined by class and making it a three ring circus. Cowboy fans expected the best and they got it. With the exception of Cowboys Stadium, how has the Cowboys' fans been rewarded for their loyalty the last 15 years?

Who determines if loyalty should be rewarded?

 

[Risen Star]

We won without a salary cap, bottom line. Jimmy built that team, hand picked most of those guys, and drove them all to greatness. Jerry couldn't stand that he was getting so much credit.

The minute Jerry had to play on a level playing field with the cap and with the other 30 teams in the league, he could have arguably been the worst owner in all of football during that time.

It seems now is the first time he's finally starting to 'get it'. I love the mans drive, ambition, business savvy - but the best leaders are the ones that know when to get outta the way, and its a shame it took till Bill Parcells getting here for him to finally kinda realize that.

The problem with that is he immediately went out and hired Wade Phillips, after hiring Jason Garrett as his coordinator, when Parcells left. So I don't think he learned what you're claiming he learned.

Even this offseason he's come out and said he's the ultimate decision maker in every aspect of the team. Doesn't sound like a guy who has learned to get out of the way to me.

 

[Red Dragon]

Every team has shallow, bandwagon, unreasonable, silly, tantrum-throwing fans. The Cowboys just seem to have more of them than other teams.

 

[KJJ]

I've always been told that a hit dog will hollar...and that's what seems to have happened here.

Superfan allegations aside, the one question that the OP has maintained throughout the thread is simple.

For those who tend to lean on the glass half empty side of Cowboys fandom, what makes you continue to be a fan?

It's "hope" that makes fans continue to be fans. The draft and free agency brings hope as well as a new season. Even the most pessimistic fans have hope. As long as a team aspires to be good there's hope.

 

[jazzcat22]

T.O.
Is that you?

 

[Clove]

Since you've told me what you don't understand about fans like "ME", I guess I can voice my lack of understanding about the pro JERRY crowd. Let's see..... It's been like nearly 2 decades since we've done anything relevant. Im' soooooo happy about it. I love losing and not winning playoff games.

I love having horrible drafts and trades. It's my dream. That's how I live my life. Losing makes me feel good and even after I've lost, I don't care about getting better, I just want to continue to lose and be happy about it.

The attitude that some fans have after a losing season or continued losing seasons is nauseating. It reminds me of the doofus' group that used to be telling jokes and having fun in the back of the bus after we were just whipped by our rival football high school team. It's pathetic. I will never understand people who are content and happy about the guy who destroyed this team.

Now that's something I don't understand.

 

[Ren]

Every team has shallow, bandwagon, unreasonable, silly, tantrum-throwing fans. The Cowboys just seem to have more of them than other teams.

Must be all the success we've had in recent years that attracts all these bandwagon fans

 

[Proximo]

Since you've told me what you don't understand about fans like "ME", I guess I can voice my lack of understanding about the pro JERRY crowd. Let's see..... It's been like nearly 2 decades since we've done anything relevant. Im' soooooo happy about it. I love losing and not winning playoff games.

I love having horrible drafts and trades. It's my dream. That's how I live my life. Losing makes me feel good and even after I've lost, I don't care about getting better, I just want to continue to lose and be happy about it.

The attitude that some fans have after a losing season or continued losing seasons is nauseating. It reminds me of the doofus' group that used to be telling jokes and having fun in the back of the bus after we were just whipped by our rival football high school team. It's pathetic. I will never understand people who are content and happy about the guy who destroyed this team.

Now that's something I don't understand.

So it's safe to say you don't believe in Jerry. It's also safe to say he'll continue in his current role for at least the foreseeable future. So, how much longer will you continue to root for someone you don't believe in?

 

[CowboyMike]

Well, as you can see, I've only registered to this board quite recently, however I did lurk as a guest for a considerable amount of time before joining. I'd like to 1st state that I've been a Cowboys fan since I was old enough to understand the game of football. I currently (and always have) lived in the Eastern part of our country. The area I'm in is specifically saturated with Eagles, Steelers, Commanders, Ravens, and Giants fans. All of my close friends are fans of one of these teams (which makes for an entertaining rivalry during the season) and I literally am rarely surrounded by Cowboys fans.

After reading a large amount of the content on this board, I really have one question I'd like to pose to all of the Jerry naysayers: Why are you a fan of the Dallas Cowboys?

The disdain for Jerry that some of the posters on this board exhibit really makes me wonder why you would even want to be a fan of the team? I mean, he's owned the team for over 20 years, and he is clearly going to continue to conduct himself the way that he has up until this point. With that being said, it's safe to say that he is probably the most recognizable individual connected to the organization. If as a fan, you disagree with his actions in general, and who he is as an owner, why wouldn't you just root for a team that operates in a fashion that you do agree with? To me, being a fan in general is about following and cheering for a team that you believe in, and that you want to see be successful. Some of the perpetually negative posters on here make me wonder- do you even enjoy watching the games? Do you cheer when the 'boys win?

Maybe I'm just weird, but it seems odd to me that some of the "fans" on here don't even appear to enjoy being a fan of the Cowboys. And isn't that the whole point? To enjoy the games? To enjoy the different facets of the organization? If I hated Jerry that much I don't think I'd have much fun as a fan.

Sorry if this was too long and drawn out, but I rarely post on message boards and I became quite perplexed after I started following this board and decided to make a thread about it. Thoughts?

Very good opening post, Prox. Welcome to the board.

I continue to be perplexed by the very same question you have brought up. I have asked it myself many times around here and yet to have an answer. As you can see in this thread, you were met more with accusations and defensive postures rather than a true answering of your question. Don't expect that to change anytime soon. It's pretty sad that it results in that kind of reaction rather than a good quality, civil discussion. Only one poster that falls into your criteria really answered your question, and that was KJJ.

Due to the attitude on this board the last couple of years, I have recently begun tuning it out. I come here for news and to occasionally attempt to discuss issues that interest me, but I often find myself not reading through threads like I used to, and I have become accustomed to simply skipping over certain people's post because I already know exactly what they're going to say. I feel like I have to make my thoughts known about the lack of quality of the Dallas media around here as well. Other than WG's numerous news updates and Couchscouts excellent insight, I don't find anything else of use here anymore.

I used to have a good time here because good quality discussion happened. Now the only time I am unhappy as a Cowboys fan is when I visit this board.

It is because of the attitude of certain posters around here. I used to brush them off and think "haters gonna hate", but it just has grown to a point where it is not worth the time anymore. I know now that I will never get that question, "Why are you still a Cowboys fan?" truly answered.

I said recently that I believe if I were not a Cowboys fan, I'd probably hate this fanbase.

This occurs in my own family as well. There are a couple people in my family that I will not watch a game with anymore (except for Thanksgiving) because it is constant negativity no matter what they do. The only cheering that occurs is when we score a touchdown, then they're back to complaining the very next play.

If this team ever does achieve something great, it will be really interesting to see how those individuals react and feel. What's sad is that I truly believe they will look back and realize they missed out on the journey. A Super Bowl won't be as sweet for them because they didn't appreciate what getting there took. I for one am enjoying the journey with this team.

 

[RS12]

So it's safe to say you don't believe in Jerry. It's also safe to say he'll continue in his current role for at least the foreseeable future. So, how much longer will you continue to root for someone you don't believe in?

I was a fan before Jerry got here and hopefully I'll be here when he is gone.

 

[GIFTS]

Very good opening post, Prox. Welcome to the board.

I continue to be perplexed by the very same question you have brought up. I have asked it myself many times around here and yet to have an answer. As you can see in this thread, you were met more with accusations and defensive postures rather than a true answering of your question. Don't expect that to change anytime soon. It's pretty sad that it results in that kind of reaction rather than a good quality, civil discussion. Only one poster that falls into your criteria really answered your question, and that was KJJ.

Due to the attitude on this board the last couple of years, I have recently begun tuning it out. I come here for news and to occasionally attempt to discuss issues that interest me, but I often find myself not reading through threads like I used to, and I have become accustomed to simply skipping over certain people's post because I already know exactly what they're going to say. I feel like I have to make my thoughts known about the lack of quality of the Dallas media around here as well. Other than WG's numerous news updates and Couchscouts excellent insight, I don't find anything else of use here anymore.

I used to have a good time here because good quality discussion happened. Now the only time I am unhappy as a Cowboys fan is when I visit this board.

It is because of the attitude of certain posters around here. I used to brush them off and think "haters gonna hate", but it just has grown to a point where it is not worth the time anymore. I know now that I will never get that question, "Why are you still a Cowboys fan?" truly answered.

I said recently that I believe if I were not a Cowboys fan, I'd probably hate this fanbase.

This occurs in my own family as well. There are a couple people in my family that I will not watch a game with anymore (except for Thanksgiving) because it is constant negativity no matter what they do. The only cheering that occurs is when we score a touchdown, then they're back to complaining the very next play.

If this team ever does achieve something great, it will be really interesting to see how those individuals react and feel. What's sad is that I truly believe they will look back and realize they missed out on the journey. A Super Bowl won't be as sweet for them because they didn't appreciate what getting there took. I for one am enjoying the journey with this team.

did you look over my post? i think i answered it on several occasions. To the next thing i feel the same way about trying to talk cowboys. I left the true blue forums due to the amount of ignorance. But i guess that is the internet for you. Everytime i post people overlook it. for instance i talked about wares next injury days in advance and then a few days later there was a topic on it and people were all go on it? What do i got to be in the right posse or something?

 

[JonJon]

Very good opening post, Prox. Welcome to the board.

I continue to be perplexed by the very same question you have brought up. I have asked it myself many times around here and yet to have an answer. As you can see in this thread, you were met more with accusations and defensive postures rather than a true answering of your question. Don't expect that to change anytime soon. It's pretty sad that it results in that kind of reaction rather than a good quality, civil discussion. Only one poster that falls into your criteria really answered your question, and that was KJJ.

Due to the attitude on this board the last couple of years, I have recently begun tuning it out. I come here for news and to occasionally attempt to discuss issues that interest me, but I often find myself not reading through threads like I used to, and I have become accustomed to simply skipping over certain people's post because I already know exactly what they're going to say. I feel like I have to make my thoughts known about the lack of quality of the Dallas media around here as well. Other than WG's numerous news updates and Couchscouts excellent insight, I don't find anything else of use here anymore.

I used to have a good time here because good quality discussion happened. Now the only time I am unhappy as a Cowboys fan is when I visit this board.

It is because of the attitude of certain posters around here. I used to brush them off and think "haters gonna hate", but it just has grown to a point where it is not worth the time anymore. I know now that I will never get that question, "Why are you still a Cowboys fan?" truly answered.

I said recently that I believe if I were not a Cowboys fan, I'd probably hate this fanbase.

This occurs in my own family as well. There are a couple people in my family that I will not watch a game with anymore (except for Thanksgiving) because it is constant negativity no matter what they do. The only cheering that occurs is when we score a touchdown, then they're back to complaining the very next play.

If this team ever does achieve something great, it will be really interesting to see how those individuals react and feel. What's sad is that I truly believe they will look back and realize they missed out on the journey. A Super Bowl won't be as sweet for them because they didn't appreciate what getting there took. I for one am enjoying the journey with this team.

I thought my answer was pretty civil...

 

[Eddie]

Every team has shallow, bandwagon, unreasonable, silly, tantrum-throwing fans. The Cowboys just seem to have more of them than other teams.

Yep ... lots of bandwagon fans.

1 playoff win in 16 years draws LOTS of bandwagon fans.

 

[Eddie]

I root for the team, NOT the owner.

What has the owner done? 3 Super Bowls in a by-gone era? Yes, yes ... we know. Jerry still thinks he gets credit for those. Sorry.

Jerry has played fantasy football with this team for far too long ... am I to support him regardless? I am to sit by and just watch as he destroys this once proud franchise?

We're nothing more than the Bengals and Lions. That's what Jerry Jones has done to this franchise.

 

[GIFTS]

Yep ... lots of bandwagon fans.

1 playoff win in 16 years draws LOTS of bandwagon fans.

not quite sure what bandwagon is but why would someone want to jump aboard our team when we have not done nothing in how long! Makes no sense to me.

 

[Ren]

So it's safe to say you don't believe in Jerry. It's also safe to say he'll continue in his current role for at least the foreseeable future. So, how much longer will you continue to root for someone you don't believe in?

Typical super fan reply, your kind makes me more sick then bandwagon fans to be honest. If you don't see things my way you shouldn't be a fan, i am the standard of all fans i am the measuring stick for what it is to be a good fan so i get to judge everyone else and lord my superiority over them.

Jerry owns and runs the cowboys but Jerry is not the cowboys, they where around before Jerry and they where around after Jerry.

Why are you happy with poor results oh great one?

 

[Proximo]

Very good opening post, Prox. Welcome to the board.

Thanks for the kind words.

I continue to be perplexed by the very same question you have brought up. I have asked it myself many times around here and yet to have an answer. As you can see in this thread, you were met more with accusations and defensive postures rather than a true answering of your question. Don't expect that to change anytime soon. It's pretty sad that it results in that kind of reaction rather than a good quality, civil discussion. Only one poster that falls into your criteria really answered your question, and that was KJJ.

Agreed. As I stated in my original post, I don't normally participate in internet message boards, and I generally don't interact with a lot of Cowboys fans (due to the area I live in and the people I surround myself with), and when I started really reading this board I was seriously surprised at the level of negativity. Now, I agree, there's not much to be happy about considering the team's recent track record (especially the last 2 years). But some individuals seem outright miserable. Hopeless even.

Due to the attitude on this board the last couple of years, I have recently begun tuning it out. I come here for news and to occasionally attempt to discuss issues that interest me, but I often find myself not reading through threads like I used to, and I have become accustomed to simply skipping over certain people's post because I already know exactly what they're going to say. I feel like I have to make my thoughts known about the lack of quality of the Dallas media around here as well. Other than WG's numerous news updates and Couchscouts excellent insight, I don't find anything else of use here anymore.

I used to have a good time here because good quality discussion happened. Now the only time I am unhappy as a Cowboys fan is when I visit this board.

It is because of the attitude of certain posters around here. I used to brush them off and think "haters gonna hate", but it just has grown to a point where it is not worth the time anymore. I know now that I will never get that question, "Why are you still a Cowboys fan?" truly answered.

I said recently that I believe if I were not a Cowboys fan, I'd probably hate this fanbase.

I think that's a very legitimate statement.

This occurs in my own family as well. There are a couple people in my family that I will not watch a game with anymore (except for Thanksgiving) because it is constant negativity no matter what they do. The only cheering that occurs is when we score a touchdown, then they're back to complaining the very next play.

I think the above paragraph really describes the fans that I was originally referring to. When you become so negative that it actually takes away from what I think is the most enjoyable part of being a fan: WATCHING THE GAMES and enjoying a nice win without complaining.

If this team ever does achieve something great, it will be really interesting to see how those individuals react and feel. What's sad is that I truly believe they will look back and realize they missed out on the journey. A Super Bowl won't be as sweet for them because they didn't appreciate what getting there took. I for one am enjoying the journey with this team.

I mentioned something earlier that I think sort of goes along with your last statement: I think there are some fans that would truly be angry to see Jerry hoist the Lombardi over his head, just because they're such Jerry haters, even though they're fans of the team.

 

[cowboy_ron]

I mentioned something earlier that I think sort of goes along with your last statement: I think there are some fans that would truly be angry to see Jerry hoist the Lombardi over his head, just because they're such Jerry haters, even though they're fans of the team.

I think you're on to something

 

[Proximo]

Typical super fan reply, your kind makes me more sick then bandwagon fans to be honest. If you don't see things my way you shouldn't be a fan, i am the standard of all fans i am the measuring stick for what it is to be a good fan so i get to judge everyone else and lord my superiority over them.

Jerry owns and runs the cowboys but Jerry is not the cowboys, they where around before Jerry and they where around after Jerry.

Why are you happy with poor results oh great one?

Dude, I'm not judging you! I'm asking a legitimate question. How long would you continue to root for someone you don't believe in? Where's the line?

I agree, Jerry is NOT the Cowboys, but at this point the 2 are so strongly connected it baffles me how you could have such deep rooted disdain for Jerry and continue to cheer for the team on a weekly basis. Am I nuts for thinking this?