What if Dak steadily gets worse by seasons end

ALBIT

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Your analysis is incorrect. Again, I'll admit he has missed a few throws, but his receivers are not getting open. He has had to fit his passes is tight windows (and is top ten at doing that BTW).





He did not get all the credit for winning 13 games. In fact, our oline (deservingly so) got most of the credit. They have not played well this year.

Dak need more help from his WR on critical plays








This isn't to say Dak doesn't need to get better--he absolutely does. But I truly believe he is not the main issue with this offense.



We will agree to disagree. Where is the video of him missing Guys by 10 feet. We all see it every week. You can isolate any video you want. The whole planet mentions it. So I guesd they are all wrong. Look its cool. I respect your opinion. Its fine. We eill agree to disagree. Thats all we can do
 

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It's a valid question. Dak has shown real consistency and accuracy issues. He can hit wide open receivers maybe 80% of the time. Will his accuracy improve enough? Or is it just going to be acceptable he can't throw in a tight window? The Cowboys will never get to that level with a QB who is "just pretty good". As you've seen already, teams have a plan for Dak and it's achieving results. His play action rollouts are going to have a LB waiting for him more often now. Keep him in the pocket. He's average from there.

So is this what it's going to be for the next 3-4 years? You've got to ask yourself...

What young QB has steadily improved every year? Throws with anticipation? Stands in the pocket? Leads his receiver instead of only throwing outs and comebacks? Can make every throw required. And just so happens to be a free agent 2018? Don't tell me you haven't thought about.

Kirk Cousins.

How often does a QB, seemingly ready to take the next step come available to the highest bidder?

1) How awesome would it be for the Skins to be dumb enough to let him get away?
2) How awesome to let him get to a hated rival and have nobody to replace him with?
3) A plug and play QB who has the possibility to throw for 4500 yards if needed.
4) A QB motivated to remind his former team of the mistake they made twice a year for the next 8-10 years.

A pretty bold move to make. One that might be best for the team.

That's it!!!!!! Let's get another QB in here ASAP. Because after 1 year he should be playing at a HOF level. The line has not changed and playing EXACTLY like they did last year. Him running for his life is just because he likes running, not anything to do with the line NOT being good right now. If he is getting worse as the year goes a long I think the line will be a major reason for that decline. Maybe it's just me but the five guys in front of him are not playing like they did last year and it is very noticeable.
 

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Your analysis is incorrect. Again, I'll admit he has missed a few throws, but his receivers are not getting open. He has had to fit his passes is tight windows (and is top ten at doing that BTW).





He did not get all the credit for winning 13 games. In fact, our oline (deservingly so) got most of the credit. They have not played well this year.

Dak need more help from his WR on critical plays








This isn't to say Dak doesn't need to get better--he absolutely does. But I truly believe he is not the main issue with this offense.


You realize its harder for us to run the bl because every defenae we play does all it can to stop our run. Daring Dak to beat us with his arm. So he is part of the problem. Sure not the only problem but come on the QB dictates how defenses play us.
 

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More often than not Romo was off for the first quarter or half
 

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That's it!!!!!! Let's get another QB in here ASAP. Because after 1 year he should be playing at a HOF level. The line has not changed and playing EXACTLY like they did last year. Him running for his life is just because he likes running, not anything to do with the line NOT being good right now. If he is getting worse as the year goes a long I think the line will be a major reason for that decline. Maybe it's just me but the five guys in front of him are not playing like they did last year and it is very noticeable.


Just out of courisity after readin what u said do you mind if I asked you how you felt about Romo. Im just curious thats all. Ill explain myself why I ask this after you respond.
 

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This is the reason I hate my fellow Cowboy "fans".
I know, how dare he question blind loyalty. As with every "fan", everyone roots for Dak's success. But there are some signs there. Accuracy issues are something some QB's never get better at.
 

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You really expect 5 oline-men to effectively block 7-8 guys every play? You really think it's reasonable to need your receivers to be wide open consistently? Dak himself admits how garbage he has been this year yet we're here blaming everyone else!
Yes, that is exactly what I said. Good job. :rolleyes:

Let me help you out...the oline needing to play better does not mean to be perfect. The receivers needing to be better does not mean they need to be wide open every time. The team having other issues is not saying that Dak doesn't need to play better.
 

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Just out of courisity after readin what u said do you mind if I asked you how you felt about Romo. Im just curious thats all. Ill explain myself why I ask this after you respond.
I can tell you how I felt about Romo. I felt if he got the ball with 2 minutes left in the game. He was probably going to give you a great chance of winning. I don't get that feeling at all right now. But Romo shouldn't even be part of this discussion. We're talking the future. The future is a franchise QB.
 

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It's a valid question. Dak has shown real consistency and accuracy issues. He can hit wide open receivers maybe 80% of the time. Will his accuracy improve enough? Or is it just going to be acceptable he can't throw in a tight window? The Cowboys will never get to that level with a QB who is "just pretty good". As you've seen already, teams have a plan for Dak and it's achieving results. His play action rollouts are going to have a LB waiting for him more often now. Keep him in the pocket. He's average from there.

So is this what it's going to be for the next 3-4 years? You've got to ask yourself...

What young QB has steadily improved every year? Throws with anticipation? Stands in the pocket? Leads his receiver instead of only throwing outs and comebacks? Can make every throw required. And just so happens to be a free agent 2018? Don't tell me you haven't thought about.

Kirk Cousins.

How often does a QB, seemingly ready to take the next step come available to the highest bidder?

1) How awesome would it be for the Skins to be dumb enough to let him get away?
2) How awesome to let him get to a hated rival and have nobody to replace him with?
3) A plug and play QB who has the possibility to throw for 4500 yards if needed.
4) A QB motivated to remind his former team of the mistake they made twice a year for the next 8-10 years.

A pretty bold move to make. One that might be best for the team.

Dak is ok. He does nothing else then last year.

Other Defense Coordinators scheme for him more. They take away the medium routes, the running game and try not to let him roll out. They force him into things is is not good at (longer throws, pocket passing).

This is no second year slump. Its just the normal way the NFL works. He has to prove he can beat teams in other ways he then did last year.
 

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If Dak continues to get worse...Garrett and his system and his approach needs to go. Never wanted Garrett coaching the next future QB of the Cowboys. Always wanted Garrett and Romo to exit at the same time.
Kinda funny since Romo rewrote almost all the franchise QB records as an undrafted player.
 

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Dak is ok. He does nothing else then last year.

Other Defense Coordinators scheme for him more. They take away the medium routes, the running game and try not to let him roll out. They force him into things is is not good at (longer throws, pocket passing).

This is no second year slump. Its just the normal way the NFL works. He has to prove he can beat teams in other ways he did last year.
agreed.
 

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What were seeing from Dak is textbook sophomore slump. Just call it what it is.

He will come out of it. The question is how soon? If we can run the ball effectively, we will be fine.
 

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That's it!!!!!! Let's get another QB in here ASAP. Because after 1 year he should be playing at a HOF level. The line has not changed and playing EXACTLY like they did last year. Him running for his life is just because he likes running, not anything to do with the line NOT being good right now. If he is getting worse as the year goes a long I think the line will be a major reason for that decline. Maybe it's just me but the five guys in front of him are not playing like they did last year and it is very noticeable.
I simply raised the question, what if he gets worse as the year goes on. That's it.

Nobody expects a HOFer already. I do expect growth. A year off season, understanding the offense better, better rhythm with receivers. I haven't seen any of that, have you? Honestly?
 

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The brilliance he displayed last year would easily offset even a downright poor year this year (which, by the way, has not yet been the case).

I think because we had such great QB play for a decade, people have forgotten that playing QB in the NFL as a young player is hard - really hard. It's almost the opposite of the Eagles/Wentz situation in which he's been dubbed a diety despite mediocre play and apparent flaws because the QB play for the team has been so weak over the past 5-10 years.

Dak has shown flashes of brilliance with some weaknesses mixed in. Barring an absolute collapse, he's well ahead of the curve for a second year QB and we'll be in an enviable situation with a growing young QB that has shown the ability to win in the NFL.

Thank you for injecting some sanity.
 

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"What if Dak steadily gets worse by seasons end?... What if he doesn't!?...
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Yes, that is exactly what I said. Good job. :rolleyes:

Let me help you out...the oline needing to play better does not mean to be perfect. The receivers needing to be better does not mean they need to be wide open every time. The team having other issues is not saying that Dak doesn't need to play better.
Just saying, if 7 or 8 guys are coming on every play, someone is WIDE open.
 
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