What is Dak's supposed "leverage"?

[TheMarathonContinues]

What?

What do you object to?

Why do you have to play games? Just say it like a real man would instead of doing a girl emo face palm.

I've said it to you a million times......you find yourself confused because you bump into conversations without doing the proper work. Time and time again. I idnt' say that because I was "afraid" or "not man enough" I thought you'd be tired of hearing me say it lol.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I've said it to you a million times......you find yourself confused because you bump into conversations without doing the proper work. Time and time again. I idnt' say that because I was "afraid" or "not man enough" I thought you'd be tired of hearing me say it lol.

okay...so you think a face palm is a mature what to speak your objections.

Now I know I am dealing with a child.

I shouldn't have to "guess" all of your past comments to know what you are saying.

It is a mistake YOU and a couple others make. You ASSUME you KNOW all my past comments. You do NOT...you even said so. But you expect me to know all of yours.

If I need to read your entire history to get what you are saying...you are doing it wrong,

If I need a bit of clarification, then just say that rather than spend the time to give stupid childish emojis that clarify nothing.

Talk like civilized man not a little child. That would help. "Civilized" is the important word.

FYI...I am not ALWAYS polite and civilized...sometimes I challenge and offend. Call me out when I do that and I will try to do better. .

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I've said it to you a million times......you find yourself confused because you bump into conversations without doing the proper work. Time and time again. I idnt' say that because I was "afraid" or "not man enough" I thought you'd be tired of hearing me say it lol.

And another thing...I caught YOU..."bumping unto other conversations". You said "YES I AM!"

So I think you should stop this lecture about it when YOU do the same thing...okay?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And another thing...I caught YOU..."bumping unto other conversations". You said "YES I AM!"

So I think you should stop this lecture about it when YOU do the same thing...okay?

I’m not lecturing you lol. I’m giving you advice. You said you were lost and I was telling you why that is. Take it how you will.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

okay...so you think a face palm is a mature what to speak your objections.

Now I know I am dealing with a child.

I shouldn't have to "guess" all of your past comments to know what you are saying.

It is a mistake YOU and a couple others make. You ASSUME you KNOW all my past comments. You do NOT...you even said so. But you expect me to know all of yours.

If I need to read your entire history to get what you are saying...you are doing it wrong,

If I need a bit of clarification, then just say that rather than spend the time to give stupid childish emojis that clarify nothing.

Talk like civilized man not a little child. That would help. "Civilized" is the important word.

FYI...I am not ALWAYS polite and civilized...sometimes I challenge and offend. Call me out when I do that and I will try to do better. .

I talked to you respectfully and civilly. All I said was send a emoji and a “Lord have mercy” lol. If anything you attempted to insult me calling me a girl lol.

 

[Flamma]

Romo had good arm strength...could LASER WIRE a pass 30 yards down field Not sure where you are coming from here./

It's the reason dez looked so good. Should I get some youtube clips to refresh your memory?

Come on man.

and YES...we DO need a BETTER QB!

I am not someone that thinks a good arm is important. Just an arm that can make all of the throws. If arm strength meant everything, Jamarcus Russell would be hall of fame. But in his prime Stafford had a better arm. The only reason I mentioned that is because people keep reminding me of that when I call him a Romo clone. I don't actually think the difference matters. Or mattered. I think Romo was better than Stafford.

 

[Beast_from_East]

There's been a lot of big name QB's moving around the league in the last few years...did ALL those teams UPGRADE their QB position?

Of course not.

Seems like most teams are willing to move on, and take their chances with a rebuild...or at least a smaller QB contract.

Here in Dallas...."we" (fans and execs)....believe we can;t possibly have any kind of future without Dak prescott.


It's weird.

Please read my post again bro, I never said Dallas has no future without Dak.

I simply stated that the starting QB in 2025 (if not Dak) will in all likelihood be a downgrade.

I honestly don't think Lance or some journeyman vet or even a rookie is going to post 36 TDs and 9 INTS and be runner up for MVP his very first year starting in Dallas, but maybe I am wrong here. We shall see.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Why? Finding a new QB doesn't mean you have to rebuild the team.

Because if you are starting over with a young QB you typically are not going to be challenging for a title for a while, so why do you need to spend excessively on other positions on the team?

Example......The Titans are moving on from Tannyhill to Levis, so they decided why are we spending big money on a RB when we are in a rebuild mode?

So, they let King Henry walk and the Ravens (a team ready to challenge right now for a title) decided he was worth the expense.

Its like when an NBA team is getting younger and rebuilding, they typically trade off their older vets on the team for draft picks since you dont need a player on a max deal if you are only going to be winning 30-40 games.

 

[Beast_from_East]

You seem pretty in tune with dak comments here....im hoping you can help me understand...
We've got good qbs going all over the nfl...but some fans refuse to think dak cant or we lose forever.
Just cant comprehend the idea we cant win without any other qb but dak.
I guess im just too dense and thats okay.

The issue is not that you cant find a QB even better than Dak, the issue is how long is it going to take you?

After Aikman retired, there were 17 different starting QBs for the Cowboys before we found Romo.

None of those 17 between Aikman and Romo ever made a single probowl.

So, the million dollar question is how long is Jerry willing to wait until we find that next franchise QB considering he is 81 yrs old?

 

[KingCorcoran]

The issue is not that you cant find a QB even better than Dak, the issue is how long is it going to take you?

After Aikman retired, there were 17 different starting QBs for the Cowboys before we found Romo.

None of those 17 between Aikman and Romo ever made a single probowl.

So, the million dollar question is how long is Jerry willing to wait until we find that next franchise QB considering he is 81 yrs old?

The million dollar answer is “the rest of his life”.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The million dollar answer is “the rest of his life”.

Good response...................the problem however is that a person's perspective on how long "the rest of their life" is varies depending on age.

Typically, a person in their 50s has a vastly longer view of the rest of their life vs a person in their 80s and as such, they typically make strikingly different decisions.

 

[Buzzbait]

The issue is not that you cant find a QB even better than Dak, the issue is how long is it going to take you?

After Aikman retired, there were 17 different starting QBs for the Cowboys before we found Romo.

None of those 17 between Aikman and Romo ever made a single probowl.

So, the million dollar question is how long is Jerry willing to wait until we find that next franchise QB considering he is 81 yrs old?

Fair question. Jerry has to deal with that question.

 

[Flamma]

i agree with you . But don't you think, 3 years ago , stafford would have given the cowboys a better QB option especiallly in the playoffs with his arm strength and accuracy? Dak just gets rattled so quickly , too many times.

In hindsight I'd have to say yes. How could I not?

 

[KingCorcoran]

Good response...................the problem however is that a person's perspective on how long "the rest of their life" is varies depending on age.

Typically, a person in their 50s has a vastly longer view of the rest of their life vs a person in their 80s and as such, they typically make strikingly different decisions.

I imagine Jerry Jones is satisfied he’s lived a full and fruitful life. The Dallas Cowboys winning another Super Bowl in his lifetime would just be one more success in a life full of success. It’s fair to say fans want it to happen more than he does. It’s fair if he feels that way.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Please read my post again bro, I never said Dallas has no future without Dak.

I simply stated that the starting QB in 2025 (if not Dak) will in all likelihood be a downgrade.

I honestly don't think Lance or some journeyman vet or even a rookie is going to post 36 TDs and 9 INTS and be runner up for MVP his very first year starting in Dallas, but maybe I am wrong here. We shall see.

I apologize if I indicated that you said it. I don't recall that you did but I know a few others have adamantly said it and even created threads on it.

It very well COULD be a "downgrade". But other teams manage it. And end up improving...sooner or later.

And what does a downgrade really cost us? Might cost a playoff appearance? Quick and embarrassing playoff exits aren't much fun either. And you might hit on a higher draft that changes the course of the franchise.

It's all pure speculation of course. But I'm not sure this "stay the course" that we found ourselves with Garrett and now Dak...is a formula for success either.

And no...certainly not all Dak's fault. The large contract is also a consideration.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

The issue is not that you cant find a QB even better than Dak, the issue is how long is it going to take you?

After Aikman retired, there were 17 different starting QBs for the Cowboys before we found Romo.

None of those 17 between Aikman and Romo ever made a single probowl.

So, the million dollar question is how long is Jerry willing to wait until we find that next franchise QB considering he is 81 yrs old?

It's a fair question. And my answer...if it were ME!...is that I'm not gonna NOT try just because I am unsure how long it will take.

As far as Romo..and even Dak....I think Jerry just got lucky. Those weren't deliberate and intense effort to get a franchise QB. What's the likelihood of an undrafted QB being one of the best of his time..among really good QBs? What's the chances of a 4th round pick a lot of people passed on, might have fallen lower...being as good as Dak has been?

So we COULD have easily been still stuck in QB purgatory.

I know...just because you "get serious" about finding your franchise QB doesn't mean you do. But I say again...it doesn't mean I'm not gonna put in the effort or resources.

Not doing it...is automatic failure.

 

[basel90]

You do recall that Stafford led the NFL in interceptions and literally tried to throw the NFC Championship game to the 49ers? He might have been luckier than Dak but I question whether he was actually any better.

he is more accurate and was the main reason they came back and beat cincinati in the Super Bowl He has a rifle of an arm.
Don't forget Dak's abysmal home playoff performances . He just does not have it my freind,. Dak is the most expensive mistake in cowboys history.

 

[Mr_437]

Dak's leverage is the Joneses way of running a football team.

Let Dak walk after the season, you get a 3rd round comp. Sign Trey Lance to a reasonable deal, and look to possibly draft a 1st round QB too. Dak gets a mega deal on the market, and the Cowboys get the minimum compensation.
OR
Re-sign Dak to deal making him one of the highest paid QB.

Interested to see how this shakes out.

 

[vlad]

Dak has leverage on the following points.

1. He actually has value if he hits the open market as I imagine there are at least a few teams that would want to sign him
2. Dallas' plan B at QB as of right now is Cooper Rush/Trey Lance
3. Dallas will have to carry a $40 million cap hit if Dak simply walks away which can only be reduced by signing Dak

Dallas has leverage on the following points.

1. They are the Dallas Cowboys which can bring a lot of money in endorsements etc.
2. There is not likely going to be a team with the talent of the Cowboys in need of a QB except maybe the Jets (I am not sure what the Rodgers situation is)
3. Dak has roots in the area and wants to stay (speculation)

It is probably in each's best interest to stay together. It feels like the points on which each has leverage kind of wash out. Dak can leave and get the money he wants but he could potentially be walking into an unknown situation to do so. Dallas could find a cheap QB (draft) and offset the dead money allocated to the position but that is an unknown situation.

Nice summary thanks

 

[vlad]

I think the only leverage going the other direction is whatever dak makes from endorsements- because National companies aren’t handing out deals to say cj stroud in the same way. If cj was cowboys qb for example he’d be everywhere earning.

I just have no idea ever that endorsement money is - found this online:
“Beyond his earnings as a professional football player, Prescott has secured lucrative endorsement deals with major brands, earning him an additional $50 million. Some of his prominent sponsors include Jordan, Beats, DirectTV, Campbell's, Blockchain.com, Oikos, Pepsi, New Era, Citi Bank, and more.”

Wonder how much of that is tied to him being cowboys qb. Doubt citi bank will care of he’s qb of the saints