What is Dak's Trade Value?

[kskboys]

No they would not.

Not even one

Yes, they would. Most likely 2.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I think that's a Cowboys QB thing though. It's impossible not to be a celebrity when you're the Cowboys Quarterback.

I know it’ll be taken as Dak bashing by select individuals here, but follow me through objective logic for a second:

Do you believe Kirk Cousins could get 2 first round picks right now in a trade? Now, do you believe Jared Goff could get 2 first round picks in a trade? How about Geno Smith; do you think he’s worth 2 firsts?

The answer to each of those is a resounding no. You could argue none would even get a single first, especially after what happened to Derek Carr. I’m not saying Dak Prescott is the same player as them, I myself would put him a spot or two higher on a best QB list. He’s 9-11, they’re 11-15 type guys. But if Prescott put up a season in 2023 that was identical to any of their 3 2022 seasons (around 4000 yards, around 30 TDs, 8-13 INTs) people would call it “a nice, usual DP season.” Their tiers are not wildly different.

How many times do you hear people say it’s not his fault, he needs a better line, he needs better receivers, he needs better coaching. Teams don’t trade 2 1sts for players who requiring those things for the trade to pan out. They go for the players who are perceived to elevate the limited talent they have right now. Deshaun was once thought to be that guy, Russell had proven to be that guy. Whether those trades work out after the fact is a different matter.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I'm shocked it took you a whole 10 minutes to reply to a Dak thread with a negative comment....wait......hang on......usual.

Do you A) have anything other to do with your time
Or B) ever post on this site on something other than Dak.

I'm getting to be an old man but just seeing your Avatar and name crop up annoys the **** out of me. I've taken a while to say it bit decided today is the day to snap.

Who even are you?

Hit that ignore button if you don't like my posts instead of getting yourself all worked up and emotional.

 

[Scottishcowboy]

Who even are you?

Hit that ignore button if you don't like my posts instead of getting yourself all worked up and emotional.

Just bored of you sunshine, that's all.

Who am I? Just a person. Do you think you are a big shot or something with that derogatory question to me?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Just bored of you sunshine, that's all.

Who am I? Just a person. Do you think you are a big shot or something with that derogatory question to me?

You're so bored of me you take the time to respond to me?

If I'm bored of someone I ignore them instead of allowing myself to get all emotional because they don't think they way I do.

Like your pal Gineric up there. I got bored of him. So as much as he begs for my attention I ignore his posts.

 

[Typhus]

No they would not.

Not even one

Yes they would, your ignorant.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Yes, they would. Most vehemently disagree

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Yes they would, your ignorant.

No they wouldn't. You must have a low IQ.

 

[Scottishcowboy]

You're so bored of me you take the time to respond to me?

If I'm bored of someone I ignore them instead of allowing myself to get all emotional because they don't think they way I do.

Like your pal Gineric up there. I got bored of him. So as much as he begs for my attention I ignore his posts.

Forgive me, I don't normally bother. It's just sites like this should be fun but you suck the life of it.

I get you don't like Dak (I'm no huge fan either) but it's the same thing again.....and again.....and again.....and again from you. It makes it tough it really does.

I will go out on a limb and say I possibly, maybe won't be alone in this view.

Anyway, point taken on the ignore button.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Not much.

Agree.

That's how non cowboy fans view Dak.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

To further this discussion....I think we should resign Zeke Elliott.

Then...we vould TRADE zeke Elliott.

What do yall think we could get in a trade for Elliott?

I say at least two 2nds....and a couple of future thirds. Have yall forgotten 2017 and 2018 already?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Yeah... I'm re-thinking this now. Could probably get a 2nd at least, then... I don't think Watson is all that great. He's good, but that much better than Dak? I'm a bonehead. I don't know.

I know your joking, but at that rate they will never trade him. It would be in your best interest for them to get market for him like others.

 

[CowboyRoy]

If he plays good (not great) this year then it probably only marginally drops his stock, and you see a single first. If he gets injured this year, then that's when the first probably isn't in play anymore. If he plays so well that 2x first are even in discussion, then he's not getting traded regardless.

True as well. If there does end up being 4 QBs with top 15 grades and not a lot of free agent buyers then that could lower the value like you said

Dak could also help kill the market by telling us there is only one team he will play for. As Rogers did.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I would respectfully disagree . Wilson is an ex sb champ and mvp. Watson I can’t wrap my head around why Cleveland was that dumb

Ok maybe you’re right if we could trade with Cleveland their fronnofficw is dumb enough

Dak as much as like him hasn’t done jack to warrant that kind of draft capital

GM's arent like the average fan. They are not going to blame a QB like Dak for the TEAM not winning the SB.

After Wilsons SB run early in his career, what has the team done?

QB's like Dak are coveted by any team with a QB outside the top 10 unless they have a young guy.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Here's a good follow up to everyone who thinks Dak would get at LEAST one 1st rounder in a trade:

If dak unexpectedly retired right now....and the Eagles unexpectedly put Jalen Hurts on the block....what would you offer the Eagles to acquire 24 year old MVP runner up Jalen Hurts?

What would you offer for Trevor Lawrence?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

To further this discussion....I think we should resign Zeke Elliott.

Then...we vould TRADE zeke Elliott.

What do yall think we could get in a trade for Elliott?

I say at least two 2nds....and a couple of future thirds. Have yall forgotten 2017 and 2018 already?

I'm kinda trying to catch up here with everyone's comment so forgive me if I have this wrong.

I think you should take a step back and a breath. It appears you are using this to lecture at who you think is Dak bashing?

The OP proposed a specific scenario. Well not SUPER specific...but..if dak does "fail"...here...what's the trade value?

I think Dak's stock plummets not only as trade bait but Cowboys QB value.

That's not bashing it's reality.

 

[KJJ]

Let’s just package Dak and Parsons and see what we can get. Lol There’s been at least two threads asking about Parsons trade value. If it was up to some here they would trade all our best players. What a wacky fanbase.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I know it’ll be taken as Dak bashing by select individuals here, but follow me through objective logic for a second:

Do you believe Kirk Cousins could get 2 first round picks right now in a trade? Now, do you believe Jared Goff could get 2 first round picks in a trade? How about Geno Smith; do you think he’s worth 2 firsts?

The answer to each of those is a resounding no. You could argue none would even get a single first, especially after what happened to Derek Carr. I’m not saying Dak Prescott is the same player as them, I myself would put him a spot or two higher on a best QB list. He’s 9-11, they’re 11-15 type guys. But if Prescott put up a season in 2023 that was identical to any of their 3 2022 seasons (around 4000 yards, around 30 TDs, 8-13 INTs) people would call it “a nice, usual DP season.” Their tiers are not wildly different.

How many times do you hear people say it’s not his fault, he needs a better line, he needs better receivers, he needs better coaching. Teams don’t trade 2 1sts for players who requiring those things for the trade to pan out. They go for the players who are perceived to elevate the limited talent they have right now. Deshaun was once thought to be that guy, Russell had proven to be that guy. Whether those trades work out after the fact is a different matter.

There is no case where an older Wilson or watson are not on the same level as a Dak in his prime.

What did Wilson need to win the SB? The #1 D in the NFL and the top run game in the NFL? Wilson was carried to the SB for the most part as a young QB. And what did he do once that magical D went away? Never even returned to the championship game. Cowboys beat them with Dak in the playoffs even.

Are you under some kind illusion that Mahomes or Brady dont have great teams and coaching around them when they win? Aikman didnt have a great team around him? List goes on and on.

Why do you think the Rams traded for Stafford? Stafford was the poster child of a lack of team success and putting up nice numbers. Rams gave up 2 first round picks for him AND Goff. Stafford was 34 I believe when the Rams traded for him. They drop Stafford onto a championship level team with the #1 defense and a good offense and poof championship. That same Rams defense falls apart after the SB and Stafford cant even make the playoffs.

 

[Vtwin]

Both 49ers games he was crap.

The GB game was typical Dak. Play bad for 3 quarters, go down by a bunch, build a comeback only to lose, make Dak fans think I'm good because my 4th quarter stats while ignoring the whole game.

Mission accomplished.

Same with the Rams po game.

I'd love to sit down and watch those games with those that hold them up as evidence of Dak's greatness.

 

[NotForLong]

Two firsts, two 3rds and a 4th.

5 years ago