What is Romo's record against Eli?

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We had a punchers chance against the Patriots but we had holes all in that defense.


I was at the game we played the Patriots that year and Brady could've hit us in the flats all day if he wanted to.

Watching that defense in real life was more frustrating then watching it on TV.

How they backed off and just let the PAts have whatever they wanted underneath.




Also....


Randy Moss in person is just unreal. He was a cut above anyone else on that field from a physical standpoint and there were guy like D. Ware, TO, and MB3.


Moss looked 7 feet tall out there.
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Yes, the Pats scored 48 and beat us by three touchdowns
They were by far the best team in the league.

But a red hot Giants defense miraculously held that epic offense to 14 points. In other words, playoff Dallas scored more on the Giants than playoff Pats did. Thats how much that D was clicking.
Eli had little to do with it, but QBs of SB winning teams usually get the hardware.
 
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I would still take the grit and courage of the well schooled White over a complete guesser like Romo. Heck, he wasn't in the same category as a Meredith or Morton to me! Both were far better fundamental guys that played in a much tougher league than Romo.
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Do you understand anything at all when you watch football? Or do you just stare at the screen and cheer when we score TDs?
 
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They also dont go 8-8 with the 32nd ranked defense.
More like 5-11
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Yeah, JC, Eli would have had a whoooooole different career if he were a Cowboy. And if Romo had been a Giant, there would be no debating on whether or not he goes to the Hall, he'd be a shoe-in.

Tony, with some of those teams, D's, receivers, he'd have 40k yds and 300-400 TDs. And at least the 2 Super Bowls Elisha has.

Eli will be lucky to get in. Even with the rings.
 
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perrykemp said:
No, Eli doesn't win SBs in Dallas.

Conversely, convince me that Romo wins those two Superbowls in NY. I'm not so sure.
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Because he'd actually have an orginaziation willing to address both sides of the ball. Something he nary had here in Dallas.

And he's a whole hell of a lot better than Eli. Ergo, he wins what Eli won.

Defense + better QB on defense-laden SB rosters (and yes, I'm speaking solely of their [NYG's defense] playoff performances) = 2 rings.

Or he doesn't, whatevs you want to believe, brother.
 
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Because he'd actually have an orginaziation willing to address both sides of the ball. Something he nary had here in Dallas.

And he's a whole hell of a lot better than Eli. Ergo, he wins what Eli won.

Defense + better QB on defense-laden SB rosters (and yes, I'm speaking solely of their [NYG's defense] playoff performances) = 2 rings.
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Giants 2007 defense ranked 25th (Yards) and 17th (Points)
Giants 2011 defense ranked 7th (Yards) and 25th (Points)

Neither of those Giants defenses were particularly great. Both those defenses both caught fire in the post-season just like Manning caught fire (15 TDs vs 2 Interceptions in those two post-seasons).

Nothing in Romo's play back in 2007 or 2011 suggests he was capable of a 15 TD / 2 INT playoff run.

What has you convinced Romo would have magically performed better playing for the Giants those two post-seasons that Manning did other than homerism?
 
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perrykemp said:
Giants 2007 defense ranked 25th (Yards) and 17th (Points)
Giants 2011 defense ranked 7th (Yards) and 25th (Points)

Neither of those Giants defenses were particularly great. Both those defenses both caught fire in the post-season just like Manning caught fire (15 TDs vs 2 Interceptions in those two post-seasons).

Nothing in Romo's play back in 2007 or 2011 suggests he was capable of a 15 TD / 2 INT playoff run.

What has you convinced Romo would have magically performed better playing for the Giants those two post-seasons that Manning did other than homerism?
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Did you read my bracket within the parenthesis? It was made to specifically counter this post I'm replying to, Perry.
 
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perrykemp said:
Giants 2007 defense ranked 25th (Yards) and 17th (Points)
Giants 2011 defense ranked 7th (Yards) and 25th (Points)

Neither of those Giants defenses were particularly great. Both those defenses both caught fire in the post-season just like Manning caught fire (15 TDs vs 2 Interceptions in those two post-seasons).

Nothing in Romo's play back in 2007 or 2011 suggests he was capable of a 15 TD / 2 INT playoff run.

What has you convinced Romo would have magically performed better playing for the Giants those two post-seasons that Manning did other than homerism?
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It's also no coincidence that Eli caught fire when those defenses caught fire. Easier to play when you don't have to carry the world on your shoulders.

Go ahead and tell yourself what ever you need to. Romo wins on both those squads. Without the help of Welker, Tyree et al
 
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perrykemp said:
Nothing in Romo's play back in 2007 or 2011 suggests he was capable of a 15 TD / 2 INT What has you convinced Romo would have magically performed better playing for the Giants those two post-seasons that Manning did other than homerism?
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Tony Romo 2007 -- 13-3, 64.4%, 4,211 YDs, 36:19 TD/INT, 8.1 Y/A
Tony Romo 2011 -- 8-8 (pathetic record for such gawdy numbers; defense much?) 66.3%, 4,184 YDs, 31:10 TD/INT, 8.0 Y/A

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RomoTo00.htm

There ya go, hoss. Yeah, he could have won with those postseason NYG D's.

Edited to high-light your oversite...
 
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Tony Romo 2007 -- 13-3, 64.4%, 4,211 YDs, 36:19 TD/INT, 8.1 Y/A
Tony Romo 2011 -- 8-8 (pathetic record for such gawdy numbers; defense much?) 66.3%, 4,184 YDs, 31:10 TD/INT, 8.0 Y/A

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RomoTo00.htm

There ya go, hoss. Yeah, he could have won with those postseason NYG D's.

Edited to high-light your oversite...
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Here is what I see.

Eli threw 2 interceptions total in 8 playoff/SB games those two seasons. That's 0.25 interceptions per game.

Romo threw 29 interceptions total in those two regular seasons -- almost 1 per game. He also threw 1 in the one playoff game he played in.

Post season is all about limiting mistakes. I am not as convinced as you that Romo could have lowered his interception rate simply by playing for the Giants. Earlier in Romo's career, he was apt to play a bit wild, as his 19 interceptions in 2007 are indicative of.
 
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perrykemp said:
Here is what I see.

Eli threw 2 interceptions total in 8 playoff/SB games those two seasons. That's 0.25 interceptions per game.

Romo threw 29 interceptions total in those two regular seasons -- almost 1 per game.

Post season is all about limiting mistakes. I am not as convinced as your that Romo could have lowered his interception rate simply by playing for the Giants. Earlier in Romo's career, he was apt to play a bit wild, as his 19 interceptions in 2007 are indicative of.

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So you're using Eli's playoff numbers against Romo's regular season numbers? Less games played, far superior D vs more games played and uneven D. Shall I go to ol' P-F-R.com to pull up your boy Eli's regular season numbers as you have done for Romo?

My whole premise with another poster was Romo as a Giant and Eli as a Cowboy, mon frere.

Please, let's stick to my point I was making to JC. If you want to delve into a new territory (hypothetical mistakes and whatnot), do so, and let whomever wants discuss that with you. You asked me a question, I answered it. With facts.

Mmkay?

Perry Kemp
 
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You asked me a question, I answered it. With facts.

Mmkay?
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I was mainly addressing your statement "And he's a whole hell of a lot better than Eli. Ergo, he wins what Eli won.'.

Seems factual to me... ;)

Ok, I call a draw. I get your point.
 
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perrykemp said:
I was mainly addressing your statement "And he's a whole hell of a lot better than Eli. Ergo, he wins what Eli won.'.

Seems factual to me... ;)

Ok, I call a draw. I get your point.
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Admittedly, my hypothetical can't be factual, as it never happened. But I firmly believe it to be true.

And fair enough, Perry :)
 
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