What is Romo's record against winning teams?

But Adam that's impossible, didn't you hear.....Romo always comes up short in BIG games.
 
If Romo wouldn't have whiffed on that tackle of McClain it would be one more in the win column
 
STSINAZ;4112504 said:
lets have it and then post the record against losing teams....will tell you all you need to know. i dont care about his stats...quarterbacks are supposed to win...however you need to do that...he is either a winner or a loser...right now he is not a winner...bottom line...will he get over the hump...i dont know...
well there went that, you gonna come back now that you look silly


i bet not...
 
There it is. He is 500. That wont get us a superbowl win. Qbs are there to win. They either get their team a win or they dont. And when they lose games for you then its even worse
 
Ring Leader;4112774 said:
But Adam that's impossible, didn't you hear.....Romo always comes up short in BIG games.

Romo has won a lot of big regular season games, but in the end of the season, in win-or-go home contests, he has not done very well from a win and personal performance standard. Doesn't mean that he can't - just means that he hasn't.
 
STSINAZ;4112813 said:
There it is. He is 500. That wont get us a superbowl win. Qbs are there to win. They either get their team a win or they dont. And when they lose games for you then its even worse
Wow. You asked for data, the data was posted, and you ignored it. Impressive. The Cowboys, with Romo, are significantly better than .500 against good teams and they dominate bad teams. As Adam posted, they've done incredibly well against the strongest of teams. But no, you have an agenda, so not even the data you asked for will change your mind.
 
Doomsay;4112838 said:
Romo has won a lot of big regular season games, but in the end of the season, in win-or-go home contests, he has not done very well from a win and personal performance standard. Doesn't mean that he can't - just means that he hasn't.

That's simply not true. He had four straight excellent must-win games in December and January of 2009-10. He was very good (as a QB) in the Seattle playoff game. Has he had a couple stinkers? Sure. He's had a couple stinkers early in the season, too (see the Giants game, 2009 week 2).

Was better play from Tony going to reverse the outcomes of 44-6 and 34-3 games? I think not.
 
I am a die hard Romo fan and have defended him for years but I have noticed something. Romo puts up great numbers, his TD to INT ratio is excellent. The thing that bothers me about him is it Seems like he may be developing a bit of a trend. It seems like the INT's he does make, or the fumbles, come at crucial times, like when the game is on the line. Its like he plays well until that dreaded word, Pressure, is on.

I am a big supporter of Romo and have taken up for him many times but its getting to where you can't ignore the fact that he has had, more than the norm, mental breakdowns in pressure situations. I'm not knocking Romo either, its just that there comes a pont in time where you start to lose a micro amount of trust in you QB. Now I would only admit this on here amongst Cowboys fans.....
 
Arkyvarminter;4112885 said:
I am a die hard Romo fan and have defended him for years but I have noticed something. Romo puts up great numbers, his TD to INT ratio is excellent. The thing that bothers me about him is it Seems like he may be developing a bit of a trend. It seems like the INT's he does make, or the fumbles, come at crucial times, like when the game is on the line. Its like he plays well until that dreaded word, Pressure, is on.
I think "seems" is the right word here. Looking at 2009 (his last full season)...

The Cowboys played 18 games in 2009.
In those 18 games, Tony threw 10 INTs and fumbled 8 times (that's all fumbles, not just the ones he lost).

Here's the breakdown by quarter:
INTs: 2/2/4/2
Fumbles: 2/3/1/2

How about that? They're pretty randomly distributed, as one might expect.

Let's look at those four 4th-quarter turnovers. One fumble came in the SEA game - Dallas won easily. One INT came in the first WAS game - Tony marched the team down for the winning score right after that. The other two came in the GB game, down 2 and 3 scores, respectively.

Remember, we expect turnover rates to go up in "clutch" situations. When it's late in the game and your team is down, you have to adopt higher-risk strategies to try to win. In fact, the data above suggests that Tony was less likely to turn the ball over in clutch situations than one might expect.
 
jimnabby;4112941 said:
I think "seems" is the right word here. Looking at 2009 (his last full season)...

The Cowboys played 18 games in 2009.
In those 18 games, Tony threw 10 INTs and fumbled 8 times (that's all fumbles, not just the ones he lost).

Here's the breakdown by quarter:
INTs: 2/2/4/2
Fumbles: 2/3/1/2

How about that? They're pretty randomly distributed, as one might expect.

Let's look at those four 4th-quarter turnovers. One fumble came in the SEA game - Dallas won easily. One INT came in the first WAS game - Tony marched the team down for the winning score right after that. The other two came in the GB game, down 2 and 3 scores, respectively.

Remember, we expect turnover rates to go up in "clutch" situations. When it's late in the game and your team is down, you have to adopt higher-risk strategies to try to win. In fact, the data above suggests that Tony was less likely to turn the ball over in clutch situations than one might expect.

Brilliant post. You're obviously a Romo lover and can't admit he's not perfect, lol. The key thing you posted is just like the pick against the Jets, time is running out, the defense smells blood and of course Dez was hurt. Stupid decision by Romo to throw to Dez but the odds greatly increase for him to fail in that situation.

The best QB's have also failed in that situation, Manning ended his last SB with a pick if memory serves. Romo did not lose the lead in the 4th if memory serves there as well.

I think our ST's and defense have a worse track record in the "clutch" than Romo does the last 6 years.
 
Like Todd Archer pointed out today: Since 2006 Romo has 17 4th quarter INTs, Drew Brees since then has 25 4th quarter INTs.
 
STSINAZ;4112813 said:
There it is. He is 500. That wont get us a superbowl win. Qbs are there to win. They either get their team a win or they dont. And when they lose games for you then its even worse

Is this someone posting under a joke name? This can't be a real person.
 
AsthmaField;4112950 said:
Like Todd Archer pointed out today: Since 2006 Romo has 17 4th quarter INTs, Drew Brees since then has 25 4th quarter INTs.
That's a dopey stat. Romo has started 62 games, Brees 80 over that time. If that stat includes postseason, the disparity in games is even bigger.
 
Tony Romo has replaced George W Bush as the person responsible for all bad things that happen.
 
Thats funny its exactly what parcells or any other great coach would say and its a joke. You my friend are a joke.
 
To every winning coach it is. Its tonys responsibility to motivate the team to victory and not lose the game for us. All the great ones understand this.
 
STSINAZ;4112813 said:
There it is. He is 500. That wont get us a superbowl win. Qbs are there to win. They either get their team a win or they dont. And when they lose games for you then its even worse

wow, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and think you know a little about the Cowboys and not just what you see on tv, but you sound like a Cowboys fan that I work with. He just spews the media wire about Romo saying stats don't matter, how his teammates looks at him don't matter, he just is not a leader and not a guy that can get Cowboys to the superbowl yada yada yada without presenting any reasons why.

you say he is .500, how do you figure a record 40 - 24 is .500?
his record in games over winning teams is alot better than .500 (18-14), I am not sure if you are expecting a record more along the lines of 27-5 but that ain't never gonna happen. how many QBs do you know have a terribly lopsided win/loss stat over winning teams over entire career?

And again, I thought football was a team sport? Do you think Aikman would of gotten any of his superbowl rings without Emmitt? no, because the two games he didnt play, they lost both. How about Aikman without that Oline? not in a million years, Aikman was a pure pocket passer - Aikman couldn't find his way out of a canopy much less a pocket that was collapsing repeatedly so it was a good thing we had a GREAT oline.

Romo made his mistakes, one was the fumble which the defender made an excellent play for, and the other was the int which was squarely on Romo. Hey Sanchez through an int and fumbled the ball, gonna yell about him? no, because Jets won. hmmmm....
 
STSINAZ;4112813 said:
There it is. He is 500. That wont get us a superbowl win. Qbs are there to win. They either get their team a win or they dont. And when they lose games for you then its even worse

This is about as dumb as your Merriman over Ware argument.


He is WAYYYYY over "500" against good teams.

Just admit you were wrong and slink away .... be a man this time.
 
He is 31. Has been in the league a while now. Still making same mistakes. My thought are my thoughts. If troy or roger was on this exact team we would have won the other night trust. How do i know because it was the qb who made the most costly mistakes. If you know football you know that 16 - 14 are not the numbers of a winner against winning teams.
 

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