What is Romo's record against winning teams?

[zrinkill]

He is 31. Has been in the league a while now. Still making same mistakes. My thought are my thoughts. If troy or roger was on this exact team we would have won the other night trust. How do i know because it was the qb who made the most costly mistakes. If you know football you know that 16 - 14 are not the numbers of a winner against winning teams.

SO you still will not admit it ...... pathetic.

You never change.

 

[JD_KaPow]

He is 31. Has been in the league a while now. Still making same mistakes. My thought are my thoughts. If troy or roger was on this exact team we would have won the other night trust. How do i know because it was the qb who made the most costly mistakes. If you know football you know that 16 - 14 are not the numbers of a winner against winning teams.

So what are the numbers of a "winner" against winning teams? A winning record against winning teams doesn't make one a "winner"? No, of course not. I'm quite sure that if the numbers were 20-10, you'd say that those aren't the numbers of a "winner".

Who do you think good teams and QBs lose to, anyway? They lose to other good teams. They're not losing to bad teams, or they're clearly not very good.

I just glanced at the 1994 Cowboys. 10-0 against losing teams. 4-5 against winning teams. That Troy, what a loser!
1978 Cowboys: 9-1 against losing teams. 5-4 against winning teams. Roger was a bum.

 

[AdamJT13]

That's a dopey stat. Romo has started 62 games, Brees 80 over that time. If that stat includes postseason, the disparity in games is even bigger.

Yes, Brees has thrown more fourth-quarter passes since 2006, but Romo has a lower interception percentage (3.21 for Romo, 3.30 for Brees), a higher touchdown percentage (6.42 for Romo, 5.15 for Brees), more yards per attempt (8.89 for Romo, 7.79 for Brees) and a higher passer rating (100.0 for Romo, 92.8 for Brees) in the fourth quarter.

 

[BrassCowboy]

So what are the numbers of a "winner" against winning teams? A winning record against winning teams doesn't make one a "winner"? No, of course not. I'm quite sure that if the numbers were 20-10, you'd say that those aren't the numbers of a "winner".

Who do you think good teams and QBs lose to, anyway? They lose to other good teams. They're not losing to bad teams, or they're clearly not very good.

I just glanced at the 1994 Cowboys. 10-0 against losing teams. 4-5 against winning teams. That Troy, what a loser!
1978 Cowboys: 9-1 against losing teams. 5-4 against winning teams. Roger was a bum.

nice post

 

[LowTech]

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[ethiostar]

I think you all are missing the point. The bottem line is that we all know there has never been a QB with dimples that has taken his team to the Super Bowl. At least not a QB who has dimples, likes to wear his hat backwards and plays golf in his spare time when he should be studing film. I challenge anyone to refute this assertion using statistics or what have you.

 

[shockandroll]

He is 31. Has been in the league a while now. Still making same mistakes. My thought are my thoughts. If troy or roger was on this exact team we would have won the other night trust. How do i know because it was the qb who made the most costly mistakes. If you know football you know that 16 - 14 are not the numbers of a winner against winning teams.

Why'd Rog loose in the SB then? Why'd Troy ever lose a game when he played?

Troy was able to win a lot of games with far less than 300 yards because he had a great defense, ST's and running game. He also threw a ton of picks with far less TD's then Romo and fumbled a lot too. Troy was great so don't go calling me a hater, just saying, why was it OK for Troy to chuck 14 INT's a year?

Oh wait, I know. Because his defense got the ball back rather than giving up scores most of the time. Troy could get away with not being perfect, Romo can't, because of the rest of their teams.

 

[STSINAZ]

Why'd Rog loose in the SB then? Why'd Troy ever lose a game when he played?

Troy was able to win a lot of games with far less than 300 yards because he had a great defense, ST's and running game. He also threw a ton of picks with far less TD's then Romo and fumbled a lot too. Troy was great so don't go calling me a hater, just saying, why was it OK for Troy to chuck 14 INT's a year?

Oh wait, I know. Because his defense got the ball back rather than giving up scores most of the time. Troy could get away with not being perfect, Romo can't, because of the rest of their teams.

Troy was a born leader who held EVERYONE on the team accountable...thats why he won....leaders do that...field generals do that...hall of fame QB's do that...romo doesnt have that...he cant even get his job downpat..

Will he get it? dirk and garnett got better through critisism just like this from high profile hall of famers...will romo? i dont know...i hope he does but right now he is not that guy and jerry and garrett need to tell him that...i am sure garrett is...dont know about jerry..he is clueless at times...

 

[STSINAZ]

nice post

if you are going to compare troy to romo then you have no clue about football.....does everyone have homer glasses on just because its football season...hey just because you admit who romo is doesnt mean you dont want him to get better...you guys are no better than jerry right now..he is what he is...very average....

 

[shockandroll]

Troy was a born leader who held EVERYONE on the team accountable...thats why he won....leaders do that...field generals do that...hall of fame QB's do that...romo doesnt have that...he cant even get his job downpat..

Will he get it? dirk and garnett got better through critisism just like this from high profile hall of famers...will romo? i dont know...i hope he does but right now he is not that guy and jerry and garrett need to tell him that...i am sure garrett is...dont know about jerry..he is clueless at times...

You failed to answer my questions. Why did Aikman lose the Championship game against the 49ers? Why did he not win every game? If he held them accountable, why'd he ever lose? Why'd he throw so many picks? Did Aikman win on bad teams because he was a leader or was he part of great teams?

I think you might be the one who does not know football.

 

[JD_KaPow]

if you are going to compare troy to romo then you have no clue about football.....does everyone have homer glasses on just because its football season...hey just because you admit who romo is doesnt mean you dont want him to get better...you guys are no better than jerry right now..he is what he is...very average....

Hey, you keep making claims. We test those claims and find out they're not true. Now you're falling back on the "you have no clue about football" argument. I guess that's all you've got left.

For the record, I don't think Romo's as good a QB as Troy was at his peak. But it's not because of some magical "winner-ness" or "clutchness" or whatever. And Troy's Cowboys teams in the SB years were definitely better than the Cowboys teams of recent vintage. They won the SB because the team was better than any other team, not because Troy never made a mistake. The current team hasn't won the SB because they're not the best team in the league, and while that's partly due to the fact that there are QBs out there who are simply better than Tony, it's not because of Tony's lack of "winner-ness" or "clutchness" or whatever.

 

[Hostile]

Hey, you keep making claims. We test those claims and find out they're not true. Now you're falling back on the "you have no clue about football" argument. I guess that's all you've got left.

For the record, I don't think Romo's as good a QB as Troy was at his peak. But it's not because of some magical "winner-ness" or "clutchness" or whatever. And Troy's Cowboys teams in the SB years were definitely better than the Cowboys teams of recent vintage. They won the SB because the team was better than any other team, not because Troy never made a mistake. The current team hasn't won the SB because they're not the best team in the league, and while that's partly due to the fact that there are QBs out there who are simply better than Tony, it's not because of Tony's lack of "winner-ness" or "clutchness" or whatever.

Ask him about the Super Bowl being ripped away from Dallas and given to Indianapolis.

Ask him about Merriman being superior to Ware.

NO clue about football has a lot of funny ricochets if you remember silly things people have espoused.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Its time to move on, San Francisco is the next opponent.

Im with that, but how about he loses that game because of the same problems, do we put kitna in?

 

[bsheeern]

Isn't this the same guy that said we should trade Felix, choice and a 1st for Chris Johnson?

The plane boss the plane.....

 

[BrassCowboy]

if you are going to compare troy to romo then you have no clue about football.....does everyone have homer glasses on just because its football season...hey just because you admit who romo is doesnt mean you dont want him to get better...you guys are no better than jerry right now..he is what he is...very average....

first of all, don't think it was me comparing him to Troy because obviously some people need to see a superbowl qb before they believe in them and Romo is not one yet, troy is. Do I think Romo can lead the Cowboys to the superbowl? yes easily, but the team has just not been there nor good enough to make it. They have been poorly disciplined, lots of entitled players, lack of talent in some areas, and poor coaching all played parts in stopping our season. Romo IMO is probably the LAST person I would blame for our woes up til now. You are just one of those media robots who just suck up their storyline and go with it. You state that Troy was a leader and I have no doubt he was. you claim Romo isn't, but all his players and coaches state the opposite especially this year. Watching the Jets game and basically every game Romo plays, do you not see him direct his WRs, curse out his oline, and basically manage all the pre-snap formation and player positions? To say Romo is not a leader, is just blindly reading off old media spew. You don't like Romo and that is the way it is, but honestly nobody cares.

 

[Doomsay]

Romo has won a lot of big regular season games, but in the end of the season, in win-or-go home contests, he has not done very well from a win and personal performance standard. Doesn't mean that he can't - just means that he hasn't.

That's simply not true. He had four straight excellent must-win games in December and January of 2009-10. He was very good (as a QB) in the Seattle playoff game. Has he had a couple stinkers? Sure. He's had a couple stinkers early in the season, too (see the Giants game, 2009 week 2).

Was better play from Tony going to reverse the outcomes of 44-6 and 34-3 games? I think not.

He is 1-4 in win or go home games - 20 QB rating points below his long term average. 5 games is not a huge sample size, so hopefully he'll revert towards his extremely high standard of regular season play (along with the rest of the team) when the oportunity presents itself again.

 

[Doomsday]

The Saints were also Undefeated when the Cowboys beat them. Looks like Romo is pretty good against Winning teams.

So were the Colts back in 07.

 

[alancdc]

Cowherd had some interesting stats yesterday about Romo and the perception that he plays poorly in 4th quarters and late in the season. I don't remember exactly, but it was totally the opposite of what he gets ripped for. Seemed his ratings went up in the 4th qtr and late in the season as opposed to what people say.

 

[gbrittain]

Now the Romo bashers have brought Troy Aikman into this. He is one of my if not my all time favorite Cowboy. He is a HOFer and deservedly so. I certainly can't make the argument that Romo is better than Troy ridiculous.

However...

Please, please, please I beg of you please...do not use team success to differentiate Troy from Romo.

The Cowboys of the early to mid nineties have proved themselves to be on of the ALL TIME best teams ever assembled by Jimmy Johnson because we all "know Jerry had nothing to do with it".

The 2000s Cowboys have been assembled by Jerry Jones and from what I understand on this board is a terrible GM and has no clue whatsoever.

Sarcasm back off.

On a serious note could someone tell me how many playoff games Troy and his leadership won the last five years of his career? I can...1 out of 4 playoff games.

I wonder how many playoff games Romo has won to start his career? Oh...1 out of 4. Interesting.

So I wonder if supporting cast has anything to do with success or is just all about the deadgum QB?

I wonder if Troy Aikman were to find the fountain of youth and a time machine would he choose to go back to the Jimmy Johnson era supporting cast to try to win another Super Bowl or would he choose the Wade Phillips era to try to win another Super Bowl??? I am going to have to sit back and really contemplate. I have no idea what Troy would choose.

 

[STSINAZ]

HOSTILE...please...you have probably been wrong 50 times on this forum since you started...you pointing out a few things about me is a joke...so i guess you think that romo is in the same universe as troy? is that why you jumped in? who in their right mind would compare the two? i just cant believe someone has...am i in the twilight zone right now? I think I am....romo is who he is....very average when you look at it all....i am done with this subject...cant believe people actually kept going with it! romo=poor mans danny white.....aikman=roger....get it...thats what it is...reality