What is the fastest escape from Prescott era?

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I can’t believe it but I agree. You can trade Dak next year and somehow get the team to accept the contract. But don’t take the first round pick until 24 or 25 when some hot shot quarterbacks are coming out.
 

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Derek Carr is better than Dak, though...
NO he isnt ..sorry that a major overreaction.

Daks being piled on right now but his top 10 status like 6-12 maybe hasn't changed and replacing that with an unknown and expect to get better, is bigger overreaction and risk to add pretty delusional to think its that easy...

Might want to blame the OL, Schultz, Gallup the entire offense for that loss. add no run game lie the last 3 playoff losses, shaky pass protection CD only threat and somehow this is QB issue AGAIN?? im sorry these threads are delusional, especailly given Daks Contract with NT clause, NO FT clause, dead cap money and again a top 10-12 QB who are hard to find..

B2B 12-win seasons, a 2nd round playoff appearance, and a 7 point loss and the blow it up cut the qb at all cost etc etc these are just ridiculous unrealistic plans.
 

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I can’t believe it but I agree. You can trade Dak next year and somehow get the team to accept the contract. But don’t take the first round pick until 24 or 25 when some hot shot quarterbacks are coming out.
NO TRADE CLAUSE OMFG dudes you guys just are not thinking clearly. too many emotional outburst..get it out , dak playing in 2023, hes starting and he will be fine.. 2024, im not sure but these threads are insane.
 

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NO TRADE CLAUSE OMFG dudes you guys just are not thinking clearly. too many emotional outburst..get it out , dak playing in 2023, hes starting and he will be fine.. 2024, im not sure but these threads are insane.
When a player agrees to drop his no trade clause he can be treated. I’m not emotional I’ve been Dak supporter for dak entire career. It is just hit me This is DAK ceiling. That ceiling is not a championship ceiling.
 

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NO TRADE CLAUSE OMFG dudes you guys just are not thinking clearly. too many emotional outburst..get it out , dak playing in 2023, hes starting and he will be fine.. 2024, im not sure but these threads are insane.
I agree with your positions in this thread...

But I think the posters that you are responding to have 2 pretty valid points:

1) The no trade clause is a minor issue and can be worked around easy. You see it all the time in sports.

2) You admitted that in 2024 you dont know about Dak. I think the posters you are going back and forth with are suggesting why wait until 2024? Draft a guy now and give him reps with Dak immediately or bench Dak all together if the drafted guy looks good. Dont do the NFL status quo of the starter QB getting every rep in practice and in games. I think the premise of what they are saying is...if the Cowboys are done with Dak, why wait another year? And why waste a year of not grooming a guy for post-Dak Cowboys?

I guess you can argue things such as "Thats bad business"; "No players will come here if you treat them like that".......or I am sure there are a few reasons on the business side why thats not ideal. But guys get benched all the time.

You make sense, but so do they.
 

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worst things ive ever reads makes ZERO sense. sorry man id say worse words but would get benched its that bad. thats a terrible plan and never happen on any team in the real world. Go back to madden and FF.
The money spent on Dak is gone. The team just has to suck it up in the least painful way possible and move on as quickly as possible.

You dont agree with drafting a QB in the 1st? So what would you do?
 

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After 7 seasons, Dak is regressing. He throws more picks now than ever. He still can't see wide open receivers. He's extremely inconsistent and thus unreliable.

What we're really stuck with is an owner/GM who refuses to acknowledge reality and move on from this 2016 QB/RB duo and it's diminishing returns.

Meanwhile yet another era of star players on the team have wasted careers. Instead of Witten and Ware it's Parsons and Lamb. Rinse and repeat..
 

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The money spent on Dak is gone. The team just has to suck it up in the least painful way possible and move on as quickly as possible.

You dont agree with drafting a QB in the 1st? So what would you do?

Only thing I am coming up with as a good argument is if you want to suggest that benching Dak will kill the locker room.

I agree with you ...the money is gone. If you are over Dak there is no reason to kick the can down the road another year.

I am a Dak supporter too.
 

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Yea true. Either way Dak isn't waving his no trade clause. We are stuck with him. Any decent QB's that might be available in the 20s?
If you really wanted to go this route, I've seen Hendon Hooker sliding in the way-to-early mock drafts. He was in the Heisman discussion this year, but unfortunately tore his ACL against South Carolina. Those picking early want a "now" QB candidate, and those in the middle rounds are usually looking for a piece that's not a QB to get them to the next level. Plus there will be a corner or receiver (or both) run as there always is prior to the Cowboys pick.

I don't think he reaches 26. If he gets to 15, intelligent GM's with well-stocked teams will start getting curious.
 

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We need a timeline of implementation. I love the guy- it's just not going to happen for him in Dallas. So let's move swiftly.

What are we facing?

Q2:

**Would anyone be supportive of sending a #1 to SF for Trey Lance if the 49ers win the SB?**
No, I would not send a number 1 to SF for Lance.

But I would support drafting a young QB and bringing in Rodgers for a season or 2, if he would be willing to come here with McCarthy.

I think Dak is regressing and the sooner they cut ties with him the sooner they can get back to top of the NFC. Dak is saying he will cut down the INTs next year, but that's just talk. He can't because his mistakes are mental mistakes.
 

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After the last game the single biggest question is, how does the locker room feel about Dak.

Help me out... how many WR's in the last seven years haven't expressed frustration with Dak? It can no longer be written off as a fluke, or the behavior of a prima donna. Now we have a leader on the defense expressing frustration.

Frustration is a symptom of a cancer in the organization. Management is in a real tough spot. They have to decide between the best of two evils. Easy decision for me. One that has me willing to endure some short term pain for the hope of a much better future.
 

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When a player agrees to drop his no trade clause he can be I’m not emotional I’ve been Dak supporter for dak entire career. It is just hit me This is DAK ceiling. That ceiling is not a championship ceiling.
TRADED but Dak wont, why should he??
 

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I agree with your positions in this thread...

But I think the posters that you are responding to have 2 pretty valid points:

1) The no trade clause is a minor issue and can be worked around easy. You see it all the time in sports.

2) You admitted that in 2024 you dont know about Dak. I think the posters you are going back and forth with are suggesting why wait until 2024? Draft a guy now and give him reps with Dak immediately or bench Dak all together if the drafted guy looks good. Dont do the NFL status quo of the starter QB getting every rep in practice and in games. I think the premise of what they are saying is...if the Cowboys are done with Dak, why wait another year? And why waste a year of not grooming a guy for post-Dak Cowboys?

I guess you can argue things such as "Thats bad business"; "No players will come here if you treat them like that".......or I am sure there are a few reasons on the business side why thats not ideal. But guys get benched all the time.

You make sense, but so do they.
worked around??? LOL not with all that guaranteed money it cant , only IF Dak agreed to trade, doubt he would..NEXT

NO i said i dont know the 2024 situation, how about Dak plays great in 2023., 2024 debates would all be moot, the what if game cant be played is what i meant..only next season is upon us..Dak still would have near 35-40mil in dead cap for 24 that why we cant know what both sides would allow with a NT clause and all the dead cap , much would still be owed even in a trade.

2025 is the out year unless moneys extended and kicked down the road..just like finally we are at that point with Zeke. now move can be made..

right now all this is moot and insane to discuss as its NOT a Possibility unless you are playing madden or FF chats with your buddies. NOT in the real NFL.
 

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We need a timeline of implementation. I love the guy- it's just not going to happen for him in Dallas. So let's move swiftly.

What are we facing?

Q2:

**Would anyone be supportive of sending a #1 to SF for Trey Lance if the 49ers win the SB?**
The cowboys are stuck with dak. His dead cap hit is too much. I knew it was a mistake giving dak that contract. Jerry will keep dak as long as he can con the fan base that dak is elite. I think they should be drafting qbs early every year and try and develop one. They need coaches that can develop one though.
 

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We need a timeline of implementation. I love the guy- it's just not going to happen for him in Dallas. So let's move swiftly.

What are we facing?

Q2:

**Would anyone be supportive of sending a #1 to SF for Trey Lance if the 49ers win the SB?**
The fastest escape is probably Mayfiled or Darnold - Not that I think they are any better but they lead you down a different road!
 

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We need a timeline of implementation. I love the guy- it's just not going to happen for him in Dallas. So let's move swiftly.

What are we facing?

Q2:

**Would anyone be supportive of sending a #1 to SF for Trey Lance if the 49ers win the SB?**
A date between Jerry and an immovable object
 

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Aaron Rodgers?

Draft Duggan?

In the meantime, I just root for Joe Burrow, who will be the best player in the NFL n the next year or two.
 

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worked around??? LOL not with all that guaranteed money it cant , only IF Dak agreed to trade, doubt he would..NEXT

NO i said i dont know the 2024 situation, how about Dak plays great in 2023., 2024 debates would all be moot, the what if game cant be played is what i meant..only next season is upon us..Dak still would have near 35-40mil in dead cap for 24 that why we cant know what both sides would allow with a NT clause and all the dead cap , much would still be owed even in a trade.

2025 is the out year unless moneys extended and kicked down the road..just like finally we are at that point with Zeke. now move can be made..

right now all this is moot and insane to discuss as its NOT a Possibility unless you are playing madden or FF chats with your buddies. NOT in the real NFL.
Ok...so we waste 2 years of not grooming because we cant bench Dak? Why cant we? Owner Ego?

I guess I am not seeing why we cant bench him and start grooming a new guy? Because we are taking steps backward with a rookie which would lead to locker room issues?

I just dont get the hardline of Dak cant be benched or drafting and starting a rookie is impossible.
 
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