What is the real reason for trading Amari Cooper?

[Ring6]

Dak had been given a say in the makeup of personnel. If Dak really wanted him, he'd be on the roster.

Front office don't want to throw the QB under the bus, hence the wishy washy reasoning they are forced to put out.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Amari Cooper is clearly a talented NFL wide receiver. He has size, speed, and superior route running ability. So why have both the Raiders and the Cowboys cut ties with him after 3-1/2 seasons in each location?

The missed trade for Brandon Cooks, and the potential signing of Odell Beckham, Jr. means that it wasn’t money that drove the decision to part with Cooper. Both players will command salaries similar to Cooper.

From the outside looking in, it appears that Amari has always been the consummate professional in how he handles himself with fans and the media. So it is a bit baffling that he has only had a shelf life of about 42 months in each location prior to being traded a second time to the Browns for only a 5th round pick.

The reality is that although offensive production is down in Dallas this year, we don’t know how much of that to attribute to the loss of Cooper. The injury to Dak, and the renewed commitment to running the football have also contributed to the lower overall production through the first 8 games.

Frankly, I’m left wondering what it is about Cooper that we don’t know.

-not worth the money
-Lamb

Its not complicated.

And what you call the consumate professional you could also call the quite, non leader. NOT what you need in your 22million dollar oft injured WR.

 

[Manster_Mash]

The worst move you can ever recall lol? How long have you been a fan?

If your team is 6-2 the season after “the worse move ever” then that team must be a juggernaut.

A lot longer than you I'd wager.

The record has no bearing on the merits of any 1 discreet roster move with respect to value. The fact is they let a very talented WR - their best WR - go for next to nothing, while subsequent trades of less talented and productive WRs went for much greater value. Then they're left scrambling to replace that production with lesser players and even tried to trade much greater draft capital to do so. The only worse move maybe I can recall is cutting Jimmy Smith, but at least there it was a history of injury and illness that prevented the production that would indicate the player he would ultimately become.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

In his last fully healthy season (2020) with us Coop was top 10 in receptions and top 12 in yards while getting around 30 or so less targets than a lot of the top producing WRs in football.

How else can I help prove you wrong today?

If you have to go back to 2020 to “prove” your point then you proved yourself wrong lol. They didn’t get rid of him because of his 2020 season genius.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Not the point. You’re trying to talk either/or when the fact is that they had both.

But they didn’t “need” both. They had both and got kicked out of the first round yet again. When is it enough for you fans? To just bring the same underachievers back year after year expecting different results?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No. Because we’re not ignorant.

We know when they do well and we know when they do bad. Our fandom doesn’t require that we check our brain st the door and mindlessly parrot anything and everything they do.

Maybe that’s your fandom, but it’s not ours.

We’re mature enough to talk about the screwups too. I guess not everyone is.

It’s funny you say that because I was thinking you guys left your brain at the door for crying about the loss of Coop when it worked. It didn’t work for your fantasy stats? Fair enough. But the team got better. That’s just facts. They got better getting rid of guys. That tells you they saw a cancer and got rid of it.

 

[Stash]

But they didn’t “need” both. They had both and got kicked out of the first round yet again. When is it enough for you fans? To just bring the same underachievers back year after year expecting different results?

So you now label him an “underachiever “ so you can feel better.

“You fans” indeed.

 

[Stash]

It’s funny you say that because I was thinking you guys left your brain at the door for crying about the loss of Coop when it worked. It didn’t work for your fantasy stats? Fair enough. But the team got better. That’s just facts. They got better getting rid of guys. That tells you they saw a cancer and got rid of it.

Tell yourself they “got better”. I’m sure you were thrilled scoring just 3 points in week one

And being a middle of the road offense even now after scoring 49 points.

But keep telling yourself it’s “better”, maybe some day you’ll even believe it.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So you now label him an “underachiever “ so you can feel better.

“You fans” indeed.

Yeah 865 yards on 62 catches is underachieving for sure. Insane for 20 million a year.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Tell yourself they “got better”. I’m sure you were thrilled scoring just 3 points in week one

And being a middle of the road offense even now after scoring 49 points.

But keep telling yourself it’s “better”, maybe some day you’ll even believe it.

I wasn’t thrilled with that just like I wasn’t thrilled with him having 30 yards in that Denver beat down either. And if you are gauging how good or bad this defense is based on stats then you have Cooper Rush to thank for that. The offense had a backup 6 out of 8 games and they did what it took to win. They relied on the run but you don’t care you care about fantasy points. Using the time when Rush was out there to prove we miss Coop is cheap and lazy.

 

[Stash]

Yeah 865 yards on 62 catches is underachieving for sure. Insane for 20 million a year.

I guess you’re unaware that he missed two games and barely played in a third that season?

Or does that ‘not count’?

Just so I can follow exactly which cherries you’re picking.

 

[Stash]

I wasn’t thrilled with that just like I wasn’t thrilled with him having 30 yards in that Denver beat down either. And if you are gauging how good or bad this defense is based on stats then you have Cooper Rush to thank for that. The offense had a backup 6 out of 8 games and they did what it took to win. They relied on the run but you don’t care you care about fantasy points. Using the time when Rush was out there to prove we miss Coop is cheap and lazy.

Ignoring that the defense carried this team to 6-2 is willful ignorance.

 

[cnuball21]

If you have to go back to 2020 to “prove” your point then you proved yourself wrong lol. They didn’t get rid of him because of his 2020 season genius.[/QUOTE

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Go back to 2020?

This isn’t back to the future it’s 2 freaking years ago and he’s balling out this year. I’m not a genius it’s literally common sense

 

[817Gill]

Dak had been given a say in the makeup of personnel. If Dak really wanted him, he'd be on the roster.

Front office don't want to throw the QB under the bus, hence the wishy washy reasoning they are forced to put out.

So why was Tad Prescott tweeting about being bummed that Amari was sent outta town? Wouldn’t make sense for Dak’s brother to tweet support for a guy his brother didn’t want. It’s much more likely Dak wanted him than not.

 

[cnuball21]

If you have to go back to 2020 to “prove” your point then you proved yourself wrong lol. They didn’t get rid of him because of his 2020 season genius.

Here’s a side question…who do you think earns their paycheck on the current roster?

 

[817Gill]

A lot longer than you I'd wager.

The record has no bearing on the merits of any 1 discreet roster move with respect to value. The fact is they let a very talented WR - their best WR - go for next to nothing, while subsequent trades of less talented and productive WRs went for much greater value. Then they're left scrambling to replace that production with lesser players and even tried to trade much greater draft capital to do so. The only worse move maybe I can recall is cutting Jimmy Smith, but at least there it was a history of injury and illness that prevented the production that would indicate the player he would ultimately become.

This is the worse move we’ve ever made lol? Like I can’t get over how hyperbolic that statement is there’s no real debate.

Can’t make your worst move of all time and be 6-2. Just doesn’t work like that. You don’t make “the worse move” and win lol. Those things tend to lead to losing. Like hiring Chan/Campo.

The clear and obvious worse move of the Cowboys history was firing Jimmy Johnson and it’s not even close. Not even remotely close. Team was on its way to being the best dynasty of all time and the owner fired the coach and orchestrator due to his bruised ego. That is as bad as it gets.

I could give 2 squats about Jimmy Smith. WR talent has never been the consistent issue here. Coaching and roster management certainly have.

 

[Havic]

Tbh, I think he fell out of favor with the coaches because of his practice habits.

 

[rambo2]

Absolutely not. This is you admitting your false assumptions.

This team is owned and run - for better or worse - by the Joneses.

The owner calls himself a GM, so it’s ultimately his decision what happens with players, contracts, and the roster.

You should know this stuff.

Jerry Jones gets input from the coaches, other front office people, and the players.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I guess you’re unaware that he missed two games and barely played in a third that season?

Or does that ‘not count’?

Just so I can follow exactly which cherries you’re picking.

It says he played 15 games but started 14. But I’ll take your word for it that he played in 14 games. 863 yards is still not number one receiver stats.

 

[Manster_Mash]

This is the worse move we’ve ever made lol? Like I can’t get over how hyperbolic that statement is there’s no real debate.

Can’t make your worst move of all time and be 6-2. Just doesn’t work like that. You don’t make “the worse move” and win lol. Those things tend to lead to losing. Like hiring Chan/Campo.

The clear and obvious worse move of the Cowboys history was firing Jimmy Johnson and it’s not even close. Not even remotely close. Team was on its way to being the best dynasty of all time and the owner fired the coach and orchestrator due to his bruised ego. That is as bad as it gets.

I could give 2 squats about Jimmy Smith. WR talent has never been the consistent issue here. Coaching and roster management certainly have.

Your logic is flawed as evidenced by your argument. If the post-roster-move record is the barometer, then firing Jimmy didn't much matter as they had just as good record in 94 as they did in 93 (12-4) and made it to the NFCCG, then won another super bowl the following season. Parting ways with Jimmy was a terrible move, regardless of record. See how that works? My argument is centered on player personnel and not coaches.

Shipping off a top 7 WR for nothing is a monumentally terrible move, especially when your #2 WR is 6 months removed from ACL surgery.