What is with all of the Ramsey love?

Jenky

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Yes, a team has to have a RB. Just like they have to have a CB. Just because you have to have one doesn't mean they have equal value.

RBs are the easiest position to transition into from college. So there is little ramp up time. They are plug and play. They also take a pounding and have a short shelf life. This is why the running back by committee approach is so popular. And some may believe that the running game doesn't really matter much anyway, but that's a whole different topic that I see is once again being rehashed in another thread. I don't agree for the record.

CB is a more difficult position to play and to transition to from college. You are required to play at least 3 of them close to half of the time. That means that you are playing 3 times the number of CBs vs RBs, at least half of the time. Finding 1 solid starting CB can be a challenge, let alone 3 or 4.

So teams place a higher value on that position. And we you are presented with the chance to grab a very good to potentially great one at 4, you should do it. Most teams would have.

Just my opinion, but there's tons of variables and you went over a few. These were my 1a) and 1b) guys. I can see why they would have drafted either.
 

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Just my opinion, but there's tons of variables and you went over a few. These were my 1a) and 1b) guys. I can see why they would have drafted either.

Don't get me wrong. I like Zeke. The offense will be a bit more exciting with him. He just wasn't worth the value of the number 4 pick. Trading down and getting an extra pick or two was 1a) Ramsey was 1b) and Zeke was 1c) for me.
 

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I think his best position by far is safety. I really think Dallas wanted him as the draft pick until they got the the scouting information the week before the draft that said Ramsey was not the CB prospect that they had hoped he was. I think the doubts about his CB ability made the Zeke pick much easier to make.

I dont think that people had doubts about his abilities as a corner. I think its just that he is too good around the line of scrimmage to NOT taking advantage of those attributes. Tackling, forcing fumbles, blitzing ect...ect....
 

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I was talking about Morris. Yeah, I'm aware of Ramsey and his supposedly bad hands. He actually out performed two first round WRs this year in a receiving competition, but if Herm says so, so it is.

When Sherm was working him out, he dropped several balls which confirmed what Herm had seen on tape . Herm is not the only one that has noticed it though. I remember how TNew used to drop easy interceptions. It is ver deflating for the defense. Ramey would fit in with the current DBs on the team though.
 

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I dont think that people had doubts about his abilities as a corner. I think its just that he is too good around the line of scrimmage to NOT taking advantage of those attributes. Tackling, forcing fumbles, blitzing ect...ect....

Well, the report that the Cowboys received in the week prior to the draft questioned Rsmsey's CB ability . Until that into surfaced, I think Dallas was really high on Rsmsey.
 

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Don't get me wrong. I like Zeke. The offense will be a bit more exciting with him. He just wasn't worth the value of the number 4 pick. Trading down and getting an extra pick or two was 1a) Ramsey was 1b) and Zeke was 1c) for me.

If Zeke turns out to be the next Emmitt, will it really matter where he is drafted?
 

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I'm thinking they'll fix that next draft but yeah, it could be a problem.

Maybe. Looks to be 4, maybe 5 CBs that could go in the first round. Most of them going before we would be picking if we have a good year though.

That's why it's important to get the key impact players when you draft high.
 

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And Elliott plans on being a key impact player this year right? Yes, that's why we drafted him high.
 

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And Elliott plans on being a key impact player this year right? Yes, that's why we drafted him high.

Yes, at a position that is much easier to find. I'll enjoy watching him play, don't get me wrong. But a good drafting team with a plan wouldn't have taken him at 4.
 
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