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[visionary]

You are such a good fan.

now youre making 'sense'

 

[AsthmaField]

now youre making 'sense'

What's funny is that I wasn't even including your type in my initial post. It was you that assumed what you do is what I was talking about.

It wasn't.

 

[Coy]

On a list of top-10 things wrong with this club right now, head coach would be number 1.

Another important thing that is working: we're number one in the NFC and number two in the league in Turnover Differential at +10. Tied for 3rd best in the conference in giveaways, and tied for first with SEA in takeaways.

Fixed it for ya, and believe me I´m very positive abut the Cowboys, but that´s the honest truth IMO.

 

[bark]

Would this post exist if we lost to Minnesota?

We didn't

 

[links18]

The original post would have been better if it weren't prefaced by a paragraph long anti-whiners whine.

 

[Rhubarb]

Its more effective than pumping sunshine...

I'd love to see proof of this.

 

[Idgit]

Broke it for ya, and believe me I´m very positive abut the Cowboys, but that´s the honest truth IMO.

I can't even begin to understand the mentality that honestly things the head coach is the problem with the team right now. Other than the echo-chamber effect from the gameday threads that comes form second guessing every play call. And even that doesn't make sense given the euphoria over the changeover in play calling duties we all got to live through in the off season.

But, to each his own. We don't all have to agree as to why a team loses football games to good teams. If we ever make it difficult for good opposing QBs to throw against us, I think we'll be seeing some really good results with the team we've got.

 

[Idgit]

i had no, none, count them on less than one hand, delusions we were beating detriot. At no time did i feel confident we were winning that game. the denver game told me all i needed and confirmed my suspicion of this team.

Me, too. I didn't think we were going to win that DET game, and said so publicly. I wasn't prepared for the gut-punch it turned out to be, either. I had just tricked myself into believing it was wrapped up, and then it wasn't wrapped up.

 

[texbumthelife]

Nice post.

Whining about "whining" is pretty superfluous though...

 

[03EBZ06]

similarly, i am also convinced that there is a group of fans that are content with losing and mediocrity and the status quo

I don't believe that group exists or is very, very small group. I think most of the fans are usually excited with a new season full of hope and when the doesn't play as hoped then they may except the reality that the team isn't good but still will support their team as a die hard fans that they are, that isn't being content with losing, just accepting reality of current situation with team, no amount of whining and constant negativity will chance situation.

 

[Proximo]

Me, too. I didn't think we were going to win that DET game, and said so publicly. I wasn't prepared for the gut-punch it turned out to be, either. I had just tricked myself into believing it was wrapped up, and then it wasn't wrapped up.

Agree completely. That Detroit game will end up being the weirdest of the year for me. When you look at the numbers in general, you see how hard it is for a team to win back to back road games, especially when they're both extremely far from home and at least one is against a tough opponent. Pregame I made a conscious effort to realize it was unlikely for Dallas to win. And because of the way the game went it was such a brutal loss anyway.

 

[Doomsday101]

Me, too. I didn't think we were going to win that DET game, and said so publicly. I wasn't prepared for the gut-punch it turned out to be, either. I had just tricked myself into believing it was wrapped up, and then it wasn't wrapped up.

My mindset has never changed in all the years of watching the Cowboys dating back to 1965. I go into every game knowing we can win but also knowing there is a possibility we may lose. Then again growing up playing sports I had the same mindset. Great thing about sports, there is no script, what the odds say or what the mediots and talking heads say means nothing all is settled on the field of play. Nothing is guaranteed you go out and earn it.

 

[DogFace]

If there is enough of them it does.

Oh. There enough

 

[DogFace]

The original post would have been better if it weren't prefaced by a paragraph long anti-whiners whine.

Please don't call then whiners. It will probably make them sad.

 

[jobberone]

similarly, i am also convinced that there is a group of fans that are content with losing and mediocrity and the status quo

well, count me in the group that wants his favorite team to win rather than the group that is content with losing and mediocrity

lets see which makes more sense

your position or mine
i guess it depends on the kind of person you are

Your antagonist group is a product of your own choice and does not reflect reality; i.e. it doesn't exist except in your perception. I doubt there is one fan on here content with 'losing and mediocrity'. Because some chose not to see doom and gloom at every juncture doesn't mean they don't see the pros and cons of a situation, in this case a NFL football team. It is a cognitive distortion to view most things in an all or nothing fashion; or if you will black and white thinking.

Either that or you're fishing for responses.

 

[Doomsday101]

Your antagonist group is a product of your own choice and does not reflect reality; i.e. it doesn't exist except in your perception. I doubt there is one fan on here content with 'losing and mediocrity'. Because some chose not to see doom and gloom at every juncture doesn't mean they don't see the pros and cons of a situation, in this case a NFL football team. It is a cognitive distortion to view most things in an all or nothing fashion; or if you will black and white thinking.

Either that or you're fishing for responses.

I agree. I can't stand losing but I will not cry and whine like some little 5 year old who does not get their way. Clearly there are things that this team needs to get better and areas I that have been positives for this team.

 

[visionary]

Your antagonist group is a product of your own choice and does not reflect reality; i.e. it doesn't exist except in your perception. I doubt there is one fan on here content with 'losing and mediocrity'. Because some chose not to see doom and gloom at every juncture doesn't mean they don't see the pros and cons of a situation, in this case a NFL football team. It is a cognitive distortion to view most things in an all or nothing fashion; or if you will black and white thinking.

Either that or you're fishing for responses.

Your antagonist group is a product of your own choice and does not reflect reality; i.e. it doesn't exist except in your perception. I doubt there is one fan on here content with 'wants to win nearly every game'. Because some chose not to see sunshine and lollipops at every juncture doesn't mean they don't see the pros and cons of a situation, in this case a NFL football team. It is a cognitive distortion to view most things in an all or nothing fashion; or if you will black and white thinking.
Either that or you're fishing for responses

minimal changes to your post are enough of a response

this is the post by Asthmafield i had responded to:

"After a decade or so of posting on Cowboys message boards, I'm convinced that there is a good portion of the fan base (population) that is just miserable unless we are winning nearly every game."

i am surprised that you did not make a similar post in response to his post
or maybe i am not

i hope you will appreciate the irony

 

[Idgit]

I don't believe that group exists or is very, very small group. I think most of the fans are usually excited with a new season full of hope and when the doesn't play as hoped then they may except the reality that the team isn't good but still will support their team as a die hard fans that they are, that isn't being content with losing, just accepting reality of current situation with team, no amount of whining and constant negativity will chance situation.

Of *course* that group doesn't exist. Or if it does, it's just one guy arguing with voices in his own head. Or they're trolls pretending to be Cowboys fans on a message board for kicks.

Cowboys fans all want the same things. Our motivations and objectives are all the same. The only thing that separates us is how we handle disappointment or enthusiasm and how we set our expectations in the first place. Those with more realistic expectations end up less disappointed after tough road losses to good teams, for example. Those who profess to hold the organization to a high standard are just using code for having very high expectations that, recently, have gone consistently unmet. It's easy to understand the frustration, but the obvious solution is to expect the club to perform at the level of its current ability while hoping they make the moves necessary to upgrade that level of ability in future games/months/seasons.

Most of us do a pretty good job of that. It's just that a lot of them do it quietly, which I also have a lot of respect for. It's awfully hard for me to keep my mouth shut when I see a lot of active posters upset and treating the organization badly because they had unreasonable expectations to begin with. Especially after spending the offseason suggesting to this group that they might consider moderating expectations based off of how the team was obviously going about it's business.

 

[SacredStar]

Romo has the 3rd best rating in the NFC, and 5th best in the NFL. Our defense is gives up more ypg than everyone in the NFL except Philadelphia, and they are worse by only 1/10 of a yard. Basically our secondary is getting burnt consistently. Defense is forcing turnovers and getting sacks, but give up way too many big plays. Penalties and questionable coaching decisions continue to plaque the Cowboys. I still hold onto the hope that "it's not how you start, but how you finish".

So many close games....we could easily be 9-0 even as bad as some of us accuse our team of being "average to below average". We have lost two games by 1 point, one game by 3, and one game by 7 points. Nobody has destroyed us, and we have beaten ourselves in almost every loss with stupid penalties and untimely turnovers....plus some play-calling mistakes, dropped passes, and that Detroit game where Red would have been better off taking a knee the last series.

I think Dallas has a good chance to advance in the win column, and I will never give up hope.

 

[ShiningStar]

Me, too. I didn't think we were going to win that DET game, and said so publicly. I wasn't prepared for the gut-punch it turned out to be, either. I had just tricked myself into believing it was wrapped up, and then it wasn't wrapped up.

it was wrapped up, just came later, you lose, whether you lose in the first minute or the last minute, its a loss. Somewhere on the field you found it in your possession to win or lose, Dallas allowed the loss. I dont blame the Cowboys, they were outclassed, out gunned, out coached and simply out performed. They saw a better team and folded under pressure, nothing wrong with that when you are simply out done, sometimes in life it happens. Dallas had it coming, they looked it in the eye and decided to blink. I didnt blink for them, maybe Kiffen helped, maybe some players arent who we like to pretend they are, but the evidence is there, Dallas blinked. Detriot didnt blink, they went home with the cheerleader, Dallas went home wiht more questions than answers, it happens. They just allowed it to happen.