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[03EBZ06]

Beasley is a complete find. I thought he would be a wasted pick.

Beasley wasn't a draft pick, he was a UDFA.

 

[jterrell]

First thanks for the kind words where they were shared.

Ultimately as my sig says we decide ourselves whether to wallow in misery or not.
When you cant enjoy wins like this past weekend, you can't enjoy close losses to great teams like the Broncos, can't enjoy the good play that comes out of losses, not sure what all is left.

And if you can't enjoy it it baffles me why anyone would bother watching.

I guess there really are a lot of people who use this as their own form of masochism and self-flagellation.

This team has been 8-8 for 3 seasons. 8-8 is the current expectation. That's been well demonstrated.
If you can't handle 8-8 you really shouldn't be here.
Setting a higher expectation is a fool's errand.

As to any delusion by anyone that whining makes things better. No, they do not.
If you want to get Jerry's attention he only cares about apathy.
Go away in enough numbers and he'll notice.
But whining? He could care less. Jerry doesn't let his money get mad.

Ultimately the person anyone really effects most is their self.
Being miserable has a cost and i feel sorry for those of you who choose to continually pay it.

 

[jterrell]

I love this team, I think it has a lot of talent, especially at the most important position, QB, where I think Tony is one of the absolute best in the league. I give all the credit in the world to Jerry and Jason in that regard. I also think this team should have been a playoff team the last two years and should have a better record right now. I think a better head coach would have gotten us at least that.

As a person, I like Jason, I love his philosophy in building a team, I love that the players fight until the final whistle, I just wish he was a better head coach on gameday, I wish he would prepare the team better and not come out cold in the first half just to turn it on in the 4th quarter, I wish he would make better decisions late in games, I wish his offense was more creative and move players like Dez around and not just send him into the same double coverage each and every play, I wish we had a running game, I mean this is the 3th year and it's only gotten worse.

This team should be better, I know they have the players to be better, but they just can't get over the hump. I certainly hope they can this year and winning against NO would go a long way toward doing that, but I just don't trust Jason.

I hope I'm wrong.

The largest thing to take from the Garrett coaching situation IMO is the improvement in game and roster mgmt.
NO coach is perfect.
We can talk about Reid but he was just fired in Philly and he's won the same number of Lombardi's as Jason as a Head Coach and quite a few less as a player.

Belichek is undoubtedly a great coach. But the last title he won was what 7 year ago now? And he's had a generational QB in Brady the entire time.

Garrett has done two things this season I really like.
He's stocked the team with young guys who are improving, ascending players AND got them in games.
People were chastising the use of Terence Williams early but now they wanna know why he doesn't get the ball more.
Ascending players give us a chance to be better in December.
Parcells and Wade had no real stomach for rookies.
I like Garrett better in that specific regard.

And his game mgmt has very much improved.
There are ALWAYS going to be 50/50 calls we can second guess.
Since they are 50/50 the only right answer is the one that works.
No coach is above that, not even Belichek.

End of the day I think Garrett is best served setting an example for the team and being an overall manager.
So this current set up has the best chance of success for him and this team.
The vast majority of Hall of Fame Coaches would've been sent to pasture if you gave up on them after 4 years as Head Coach.
That includes tom Landry, Belichek and many others.

At the time of the hire I was against Garrett.
I knew as did most rational people he'd be learning on the job.
I also never really liked his offensive play-calling.
But I was also not blind to his potential.
He was a football lifer from a football family.
And his intelligence and character are impeccable.
So when hired it was clear he wasn't hired for the now but for the long term.
He is Jerry's version of Tom Landry.
He was always going to get a long lead time for success.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

The largest thing to take from the Garrett coaching situation IMO is the improvement in game and roster mgmt.
NO coach is perfect.
We can talk about Reid but he was just fired in Philly and he's won the same number of Lombardi's as Jason as a Head Coach and quite a few less as a player.

Belichek is undoubtedly a great coach. But the last title he won was what 7 year ago now? And he's had a generational QB in Brady the entire time.

Garrett has done two things this season I really like.
He's stocked the team with young guys who are improving, ascending players AND got them in games.
People were chastising the use of Terence Williams early but now they wanna know why he doesn't get the ball more.
Ascending players give us a chance to be better in December.
Parcells and Wade had no real stomach for rookies.
I like Garrett better in that specific regard.

And his game mgmt has very much improved.
There are ALWAYS going to be 50/50 calls we can second guess.
Since they are 50/50 the only right answer is the one that works.
No coach is above that, not even Belichek.

End of the day I think Garrett is best served setting an example for the team and being an overall manager.
So this current set up has the best chance of success for him and this team.
The vast majority of Hall of Fame Coaches would've been sent to pasture if you gave up on them after 4 years as Head Coach.
That includes tom Landry, Belichek and many others.

At the time of the hire I was against Garrett.
I knew as did most rational people he'd be learning on the job.
I also never really liked his offensive play-calling.
But I was also not blind to his potential.
He was a football lifer from a football family.
And his intelligence and character are impeccable.
So when hired it was clear he wasn't hired for the now but for the long term.
He is Jerry's version of Tom Landry.
He was always going to get a long lead time for success.

This is what I thought when he was hired; not my first choice but a good long term candidate.

Biggest challenge Garrett has had to face, other than Jerry and his generosity with salaries, is learning how to become a head coach. I think he is still improving and he needs to if he plans on sticking around longer.

 

[jterrell]

This is what I thought when he was hired; not my first choice but a good long term candidate.

Biggest challenge Garrett has had to face, other than Jerry and his generosity with salaries, is learning how to become a head coach. I think he is still improving and he needs to if he plans on sticking around longer.

If we are being completely honest Garrett walked in very much needing to learn to be a head coach and we very much needed to remake the roster.
We were retooling on the fly.
We couldn't tank -except the one season Romo was hurt- because we have a franchise QB so we instead rode a wave of mediocrity.
So now we are trying to follow the 49ers and Seahawks and others who've built upon youth and taken soft conference schedules into nice playoff runs.

We are far from a great or complete team but we can take heart that very few are. We only face three teams ranked in the top 15 (we are ranked 13) of the ESPN Power Poll the rest of the way and two of them are using back up QBs at this minute. We go 4-3 over the final 7 and end up 9-7 with a NFCE crown and Garrett gets a playoff game to learn from.

 

[TwoDeep3]

First thanks for the kind words where they were shared.

Ultimately as my sig says we decide ourselves whether to wallow in misery or not.
When you cant enjoy wins like this past weekend, you can't enjoy close losses to great teams like the Broncos, can't enjoy the good play that comes out of losses, not sure what all is left.

And if you can't enjoy it it baffles me why anyone would bother watching.

I guess there really are a lot of people who use this as their own form of masochism and self-flagellation.

This team has been 8-8 for 3 seasons. 8-8 is the current expectation. That's been well demonstrated.
If you can't handle 8-8 you really shouldn't be here.
Setting a higher expectation is a fool's errand.

As to any delusion by anyone that whining makes things better. No, they do not.
If you want to get Jerry's attention he only cares about apathy.
Go away in enough numbers and he'll notice.
But whining? He could care less. Jerry doesn't let his money get mad.

Ultimately the person anyone really effects most is their self.
Being miserable has a cost and i feel sorry for those of you who choose to continually pay it.

You spend your time labeling what others do. You see yourself above the fray by your comments of what others do in YOUR mind. You suggest the people who weigh the plus and minus of this team are miserable. You have no perspective of how they see the team on game day.

Everyone of the people who attempt to discuss the reality of this team on this board hurt a little when the team loses. They don't walk away celebrating a moral victory of losing a close one.

But morose, despondent, miserable, those are labels you offer from a vantage point of someone who doesn't know.

There is a bigger calling here than just moral victories. But you, as others do, look away and find solace in baby steps to nowhere. Your words that push away any discussion on injuries, weaknesses, or failings of coaching style indicate you want your eggs sunny side up and nothing else.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yet the one thing you and so many others do is label the fan who wants more than empty promises made by this team year in and year out - this becomes a name calling, labeling exercise. You label those fans as whiners and cry babies and haters. Because if I label you, your words can't get past my rosey demeanor.

For the most part I ignore the fan that sees glory in losing a game. A fan who wants to ignore the shortcomings.

Until I read a post like your anchor post in this thread and your rebuttal at the top of this post. Then I speak because so few here do speak for fans that are just as loyal, have as much history with this team, and perhaps more, and are as big a fan as you and anyone else here.

So a question...

Just how little thought did you put into that decision to start name calling? Self flagellation, wallowing in misery - your labels come freely about other fans because they not only want to talk about what is, but also how to perhaps fix it.

The Broncos game was an indication this team can play with the best - but also lose.

But this is not the same team that played them to a dead heat in the final stanza of that game before giving it away with an interception.

This team lost a significant piece on the offensive line. In happy-land that means nothing because this team is 5-4. But in the rejoicing of that current standing, it ignores Dallas has been owned by over .500 teams while making hay on losers.

So when you look ahead and make glorious predictions of winning the East, it ignores facts. One defensive lineman now plays for another team, one out for the year, the best of them all out for several games, and the glue that kept the line marginally together has a shoulder issue that goes beyond the norm of a stinger.

And both the Eagles and Commanders are getting better each game, whereas Dallas seems to be struggling more and more to eek out wins or lose close ones.

The defense is headed into another stadium with a passing attack that is one of the best, Dallas' offense is struggling in the running game and finding balance, and meeting another over .500 team where this team struggles.

Those are just facts. But facts you wish to ignore as you find comfort in going down to the wire with a 1-6 team until it was pulled from the fire while making Ponder look like a stud.

Your woman comes home late one night with her panty hose over her shoulder, lipstick smeared across her face, smelling of liquor and a man's cologne that you don't own.

Some men become suspicious.

In the case of Dallas, others plan their coming wedding anniversary and ask no question.

Mediocrity in this league is just good enough to tease, but not good enough to draft at the right spot to fill your roster with blue chippers.

Lose, win, do something other than 8-n-8, because this team is filled with old guys now.

 

[Tabascocat]

You spend your time labeling what others do. You see yourself above the fray by your comments of what others do in YOUR mind. You suggest the people who weigh the plus and minus of this team are miserable. You have no perspective of how they see the team on game day.

Everyone of the people who attempt to discuss the reality of this team on this board hurt a little when the team loses. They don't walk away celebrating a moral victory of losing a close one.

But morose, despondent, miserable, those are labels you offer from a vantage point of someone who doesn't know.

There is a bigger calling here than just moral victories. But you, as others do, look away and find solace in baby steps to nowhere. Your words that push away any discussion on injuries, weaknesses, or failings of coaching style indicate you want your eggs sunny side up and nothing else.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yet the one thing you and so many others do is label the fan who wants more than empty promises made by this team year in and year out - this becomes a name calling, labeling exercise. You label those fans as whiners and cry babies and haters. Because if I label you, your words can't get past my rosey demeanor.

For the most part I ignore the fan that sees glory in losing a game. A fan who wants to ignore the shortcomings.

Until I read a post like your anchor post in this thread and your rebuttal at the top of this post. Then I speak because so few here do speak for fans that are just as loyal, have as much history with this team, and perhaps more, and are as big a fan as you and anyone else here.

So a question...

Just how little thought did you put into that decision to start name calling? Self flagellation, wallowing in misery - your labels come freely about other fans because they not only want to talk about what is, but also how to perhaps fix it.

The Broncos game was an indication this team can play with the best - but also lose.

But this is not the same team that played them to a dead heat in the final stanza of that game before giving it away with an interception.

This team lost a significant piece on the offensive line. In happy-land that means nothing because this team is 5-4. But in the rejoicing of that current standing, it ignores Dallas has been owned by over .500 teams while making hay on losers.

So when you look ahead and make glorious predictions of winning the East, it ignores facts. One defensive lineman now plays for another team, one out for the year, the best of them all out for several games, and the glue that kept the line marginally together has a shoulder issue that goes beyond the norm of a stinger.

And both the Eagles and Commanders are getting better each game, whereas Dallas seems to be struggling more and more to eek out wins or lose close ones.

The defense is headed into another stadium with a passing attack that is one of the best, Dallas' offense is struggling in the running game and finding balance, and meeting another over .500 team where this team struggles.

Those are just facts. But facts you wish to ignore as you find comfort in going down to the wire with a 1-6 team until it was pulled from the fire while making Ponder look like a stud.

Your woman comes home late one night with her panty hose over her shoulder, lipstick smeared across her face, smelling of liquor and a man's cologne that you don't own.

Some men become suspicious.

In the case of Dallas, others plan their coming wedding anniversary and ask no question.

Mediocrity in this league is just good enough to tease, but not good enough to draft at the right spot to fill your roster with blue chippers.

Lose, win, do something other than 8-n-8, because this team is filled with old guys now.

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[5Stars]

First thanks for the kind words where they were shared.

Ultimately as my sig says we decide ourselves whether to wallow in misery or not.
When you cant enjoy wins like this past weekend, you can't enjoy close losses to great teams like the Broncos, can't enjoy the good play that comes out of losses, not sure what all is left.

And if you can't enjoy it it baffles me why anyone would bother watching.

I guess there really are a lot of people who use this as their own form of masochism and self-flagellation.

This team has been 8-8 for 3 seasons. 8-8 is the current expectation. That's been well demonstrated.
If you can't handle 8-8 you really shouldn't be here.
Setting a higher expectation is a fool's errand.

As to any delusion by anyone that whining makes things better. No, they do not.
If you want to get Jerry's attention he only cares about apathy.
Go away in enough numbers and he'll notice.
But whining? He could care less. Jerry doesn't let his money get mad.

Ultimately the person anyone really effects most is their self.
Being miserable has a cost and i feel sorry for those of you who choose to continually pay it.

BOOM....!

I have always said, if you don't like liver, don't eat it. If some people like liver, don't berate them for eating it.

But, misery loves company....why? I have no clue.

 

[5Stars]

You spend your time labeling what others do. You see yourself above the fray by your comments of what others do in YOUR mind. You suggest the people who weigh the plus and minus of this team are miserable. You have no perspective of how they see the team on game day.
.

Excuse me, dog, but isn't that what you are doing, but in reverse against jterrell?

 

[CaptainMorgan]

Excuse me, dog, but isn't that what you are doing, but in reverse against jterrell?

Break yo self

 

[5Stars]

Break yo self

I'm already broke

 

[CaptainMorgan]

I'm already broke

Lol welcome to my world

 

[arglebargle]

If we are being completely honest Garrett walked in very much needing to learn to be a head coach and we very much needed to remake the roster.
We were retooling on the fly.
We couldn't tank -except the one season Romo was hurt- because we have a franchise QB so we instead rode a wave of mediocrity.
So now we are trying to follow the 49ers and Seahawks and others who've built upon youth and taken soft conference schedules into nice playoff runs.

We are far from a great or complete team but we can take heart that very few are. We only face three teams ranked in the top 15 (we are ranked 13) of the ESPN Power Poll the rest of the way and two of them are using back up QBs at this minute. We go 4-3 over the final 7 and end up 9-7 with a NFCE crown and Garrett gets a playoff game to learn from.

Yeah, I always tend to weigh Ozzie Newsome's opinion a bit higher, myself. Garrett was offered the Ravens and the Falcons HC job. Both coaches who ended up being hired there are fairly well thought of. Of course, those teams are 3-5 and 2-6 right now, so I guess their coaches got stoopid or something.

Or maybe it's not as cut and dried....

 

[tantrix1969]

For years I have been coming to this site and watching people like you call names of those who ask questions. You toss out the words whine and cry and use a selective group of stats or current standings and make broad brush commentary about the team while denigrating fans because they don't see the team your way.

Year after year you post something similar to this and find a group of people who praise you for your "insight."

And yet when the season is over, the ground litterer with unused confetti because the team stunk on ice and ended up again 8-n-8, you are no where to be found.

Your praises of the team are silent then because your flowery prose ended up being nothing more than the years before. A blustering wind-baggish diatribe based on hopes and prayers and stats that are slivers of the truth meant to support a position that you are right and others wrong.

This team has been built incorrectly by a man who has no inkling of how to build a winning football team. The culture of this franchise is the accessibility of Jerry Jones who as an owner is like a pimply faced kid with Madden, and his ego demanding he get credit for something he missed out on during Jimmy's tenure.

The lines needed to be built, with plenty of back-ups to rotate on the defensive side. Cap management has forced the wild-catter to play a hand and draw from a deck that only one card will allow him to win.

And he never gets that card.

He planted his flag in a defensive line of 30-year olds who now are sidelined because of injury or left the team to play for another franchise because Jerry lost his temper.

The head coach is in his seventh year running the offense and what should be a seemless organization between QB and Head Coach is a fire drill at a grade school without the teacher telling the kids where to go.

You and others like you trot out the same platitudes that fall short and when the season's end arrives, you leave, only to come back next year and lecture us that ask questions you don't want to hear.

Your side is protected by the leadership of this board because crapping on fans who aren't buying into the Three Card Monte Jerry is dealing off of a card table on the sidewalk is the going norm here because in reality, the people who whine the most are the 8-n-8ers that think being mediocre is okay.

Sorry Terrell, but I have seen your act and it closes out of town for me. There are reasons why this team is headed for another disappointing year, but you will not see any serious discussions of this because of people like you who have fits for anything but rose-colored glasses.

Until this franchise fixes the cap, and finds a man who understands talent acquisition, and hires a competent head coach, the middle of the road, luke warm, tepid team we see run out there every year will be what is offered up.

But there is hope.

One day after Romo retires the team will fall back to the Days of Campo and perhaps we can again draft a team that can be consistently middle of the road.

 

[cowboys1981]

I'm happy with Garrett. I don't look at how fans view him to establish my opinion. I see players who play hard for him and last season he earned my respect for getting our depleted team to within a game of clinching the playoffs.

He has his faults and so does every other coach. I see how players don't quit on him vs players quitting on Reid in Philly.

Just think, if we don't allow that TD we're at 6-3 and half of these "get rid of Garrett"-paraphrasing- threads wouldn't exist.

 

[Ratmatt]

For years I have been coming to this site and watching people like you call names of those who ask questions. You toss out the words whine and cry and use a selective group of stats or current standings and make broad brush commentary about the team while denigrating fans because they don't see the team your way.

Year after year you post something similar to this and find a group of people who praise you for your "insight."

And yet when the season is over, the ground litterer with unused confetti because the team stunk on ice and ended up again 8-n-8, you are no where to be found.

Your praises of the team are silent then because your flowery prose ended up being nothing more than the years before. A blustering wind-baggish diatribe based on hopes and prayers and stats that are slivers of the truth meant to support a position that you are right and others wrong.

This team has been built incorrectly by a man who has no inkling of how to build a winning football team. The culture of this franchise is the accessibility of Jerry Jones who as an owner is like a pimply faced kid with Madden, and his ego demanding he get credit for something he missed out on during Jimmy's tenure.

The lines needed to be built, with plenty of back-ups to rotate on the defensive side. Cap management has forced the wild-catter to play a hand and draw from a deck that only one card will allow him to win.

And he never gets that card.

He planted his flag in a defensive line of 30-year olds who now are sidelined because of injury or left the team to play for another franchise because Jerry lost his temper.

The head coach is in his seventh year running the offense and what should be a seemless organization between QB and Head Coach is a fire drill at a grade school without the teacher telling the kids where to go.

You and others like you trot out the same platitudes that fall short and when the season's end arrives, you leave, only to come back next year and lecture us that ask questions you don't want to hear.

Your side is protected by the leadership of this board because crapping on fans who aren't buying into the Three Card Monte Jerry is dealing off of a card table on the sidewalk is the going norm here because in reality, the people who whine the most are the 8-n-8ers that think being mediocre is okay.

Sorry Terrell, but I have seen your act and it closes out of town for me. There are reasons why this team is headed for another disappointing year, but you will not see any serious discussions of this because of people like you who have fits for anything but rose-colored glasses.

Until this franchise fixes the cap, and finds a man who understands talent acquisition, and hires a competent head coach, the middle of the road, luke warm, tepid team we see run out there every year will be what is offered up.

But there is hope.

One day after Romo retires the team will fall back to the Days of Campo and perhaps we can again draft a team that can be consistently middle of the road.

Excellent post,one of the best I've ever read on here.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Excuse me, dog, but isn't that what you are doing, but in reverse against jterrell?

I see reading comprehension is not your string suit.

Missed you, pookie!

 

[TwoDeep3]

Let's be clear. I'm not trying to be a cre4ep about this.

But every few games someone posts a lengthy diatribe calling names of those who want to discuss the team and the shortcomings. This is a site for fans of this team. Except for the occasionally a Commander fans comes around, this is Cowboys only.

So why the verbal abuse?

Words have meaning.

Try ignore.

 

[DogFace]

I see reading comprehension is not your string suit.

Missed you, pookie!

Let's be clear. I'm not trying to be a cre4ep about this.

But every few games someone posts a lengthy diatribe calling names of those who want to discuss the team and the shortcomings. This is a site for fans of this team. Except for the occasionally a Commander fans comes around, this is Cowboys only.

So why the verbal abuse?

Words have meaning.

Try ignore.

Isn't downing someone's reading comprehension verbal abuse?

 

[TwoDeep3]

Isn't downing someone's reading comprehension verbal abuse?

He and I are pals.

But more importantly is this. One side seems to get angry the other side wants to talk about the team and what is wrong. I find it extremely hypocritical of those who take this position to blame the other side about crying and whining since the management of this site doesn't create threatening posts and warnings of being banned about the happy side and their hijacking threads.

But they surely do it as much as anyone.

And they create threads specifically to complain about the other side of this argument.