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Don't forget Jimmy Johnson took over the worst team in the league in 1989 and turned it into a Superbowl championship team in 4 years. I won't say who's team he took over to avoid conflict on old coaches, but it's fair to say Jimmy inherited a total mess. He built the team from the ground up and that's what the Cowboys need now a coach who will build the team, to a championship team. A coach of the future not afraid to do whatever's needed to get to the Super Bowl Victory. A coach who will stop at nothing to have the # 1 team in the NFL, in other words a man like Jimmy Johnson.

Don't forget this is now a different league with a cap. You can't build a team like they did now. You can't just pull your boot straps up or will your way to a great team. You'd make a great cheer leader.
 

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Don't forget this is now a different league with a cap. You can't build a team like they did now. You can't just pull your boot straps up or will your way to a great team. You'd make a great cheer leader.

Well Jimmy was working with the same constraints as the coach before him, what's his excuse for letting the Cowboys go to the bottom of NFL. I think you were cheering a little bit for the coach that was there before Jimmy, were you not. Before you answer put down the pom poms.
 

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Don't forget this is now a different league with a cap. You can't build a team like they did now. You can't just pull your boot straps up or will your way to a great team. You'd make a great cheer leader.

I do think Jimmy Johnson is the greatest coach that ever lived and nothing is going to mind unless I see one in the future, which brings me to my next point. I want to see a coach as good or greater coach the Dallas Cowboys in the future and make the Cowboys a Super Bowl champ for 5 years straight. I want to see greatness again in Dallas.
 

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It is almost painful to listen to so many "fans" whine. Whine after losses, whine after wins, whine in the Bye week. Whine all off-season. Its to the point there should be 1 sticked thread for Jerry hate. Another for Garrett hate. No one with any defense for them allowed at all. Just allow the hate and whine to flow there unfettered.

It's never friggin ending.

Dallas has become the anti-bandwagon team. The team for people who love to complain.
So... to balance the scales how about let's look at what is going right.

As I look at the standings Dallas is 5-4 and in 1st place in the NFCE by a game and a half.
That's good.

They've scored the 2nd most points in the NFL. Yes, SECOND.

They've allowed 209 points which is the lowest total in the NFCE and amongst the lowest in the NFL of teams who've played 9 games.

They are 3-1 at home and have been handling home field.
They are undefeated in divisional play.
More impressively they are 5-1 in the conference.
So the first two tie-breakers look awfully good.

They've beaten the divisional foes by an average of 11 points.
They have 4 losses but 2 of those are by 1 point.
They went toe to toe with Denver who is widely expected to be the AFC top overall seed and SB representative.

The special teams has been excellent and rates as the league's top unit according to Football Outsiders.

The injury list is long but we've also found 5 or 6 CHEAP players we expected next to nothing of this year.
George Selvie, Nick Hayden, Heath, Beasley, Wilcox and a few more.
These guys bring down the cost of running the team versus the salary cap for the future.

The front office has become quite adept at adding players from other practice squads or off the street.
The rookie class has been a sensational value already.

Tony Romo is throwing for 283 yards a game and has 20 TDs with only 6 INTs. His rating is the 2nd highest of his career and he is on pace for right at his career high in TD passes while producing amongst the lowest INT and turnover rates of his career. In short he has been massively effective.

Dez Bryant is without a doubt a top 5 WR in this league and ascending.

Sean Lee was just locked up to a long-term deal then immediately followed with outstanding play and a defensive player of the week honor.

DeMarcus Ware returns this week and goes against a Saints team where he made his biggest mark in a game he basically took from Drew Brees.
Maybe even better new is Ware is only 3rd on the team in sacks this year. As good a pressure guy as he is he returns to merely add to Hatcher and Selvie not have to carry the load by himself.

And the schedule looks pretty darn rosy. Only one team would be favored over Dallas if the game were played today. New Orleans. Chicago and GB are down to back up QBs and the rest of the teams are simply abysmal. You get the 3 division games which again we own round 1 by an average 11 points then Oakland and GB at home.

The hardest game left on the schedule is this week. But win or lose Dallas comes out of this in good position to make the playoffs and host a game for only the third time in a decade plus.

Very nice points. Provides a nice perspective.
 

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Well Jimmy was working with the same constraints as the coach before him, what's his excuse for letting the Cowboys go to the bottom of NFL. I think you were cheering a little bit for the coach that was there before Jimmy, were you not. Before you answer put down the pom poms.

If you want to debate me then you'll need to be respectful. Jimmy will never be considered the same as Landry by the vast majority. I appreciate your zeal for ole Jimmy but there just aren't a lot of people in the entire American football world who would say Jimmy is better than Landry.

We've already been over how Landry had to build his team. Don't forget that Jimmy was handed the number one pick which most people would have used on Aikman. So no kudos for Aikman except he didn't screw that up. And Irvin was already on the team so no kudos there. That one belongs to Landry and Schramm. And Jimmy didn't want Emmitt but did have the sense to listen the those around him. So 1/2 a kudo there.
 

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I do think Jimmy Johnson is the greatest coach that ever lived and nothing is going to mind unless I see one in the future, which brings me to my next point. I want to see a coach as good or greater coach the Dallas Cowboys in the future and make the Cowboys a Super Bowl champ for 5 years straight. I want to see greatness again in Dallas.

You can root for him all you want. I'm glad he makes you happy.
 

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If you want to debate me then you'll need to be respectful. Jimmy will never be considered the same as Landry by the vast majority. I appreciate your zeal for ole Jimmy but there just aren't a lot of people in the entire American football world who would say Jimmy is better than Landry.

We've already been over how Landry had to build his team. Don't forget that Jimmy was handed the number one pick which most people would have used on Aikman. So no kudos for Aikman except he didn't screw that up. And Irvin was already on the team so no kudos there. That one belongs to Landry and Schramm. And Jimmy didn't want Emmitt but did have the sense to listen the those around him. So 1/2 a kudo there.

Hey, you started the cheerleader stuff, so I threw in the pom poms . All in good fun.
 

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If you want to debate me then you'll need to be respectful. Jimmy will never be considered the same as Landry by the vast majority. I appreciate your zeal for ole Jimmy but there just aren't a lot of people in the entire American football world who would say Jimmy is better than Landry.

We've already been over how Landry had to build his team. Don't forget that Jimmy was handed the number one pick which most people would have used on Aikman. So no kudos for Aikman except he didn't screw that up. And Irvin was already on the team so no kudos there. That one belongs to Landry and Schramm. And Jimmy didn't want Emmitt but did have the sense to listen the those around him. So 1/2 a kudo there.
You have to remember I liked Tom as a coach and watched him for years, but I loved Jimmy as a coach. When I saw Jimmy coach in college I said we need to get him as the Cowboys coach. Jimmy didn't care what people thought and just wanted to win. When he dressed the Miami Hurricanes up in army clothes and marched them off the plane in Oklahoma it was fantastic. Jimmy was ready to do whatever needed to get his teams fired up and ready to win.
 

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You have to remember I liked Tom as a coach and watched him for years, but I loved Jimmy as a coach. When I saw Jimmy coach in college I said we need to get him as the Cowboys coach. Jimmy didn't care what people thought and just wanted to win. When he dressed the Miami Hurricanes up in army clothes and marched them off the plane in Oklahoma it was fantastic. Jimmy was ready to do whatever needed to get his teams fired up and ready to win.

I like Jimmy a lot and I think he's a fantastic coach. He just is never going to be legendary for the majority.
 

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Landry was much more of an innovator.

I agree. While I agree Johnson was more of an overt motivator and people tout how much fear they had of Johnson, people need to know how afraid the players were of Landry. I've never heard of him yelling at players although I've been told he could get a little agitated and raise his voice. Apparently they were afraid to fail him. And he had 'the look'. Yeah Landry left his stamp on the NFL.
 

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So, essentially a positive post with a perspective from the polar opposite of the constant "whine" perspective, this is great for a corrective to that viewpoint, though self-critical this perspective is not.
 

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So, essentially a positive post with a perspective from the polar opposite of the constant "whine" perspective, this is great for a corrective to that viewpoint, though self-critical this perspective is not.



Thought this thread could use some humor from a....ahhh....goofy perspective. Neh?
 
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