What NFCE Team can Best Defend Against TO!? ...

[RiggoForever]

...expect something else ...a fired up Eagles Team.

Ok what are the odds a brawl breaks out between TO and one of the Eagles defensive players and one or both get ejected? I mean there is going to be alot of hatred for what happened last season.

I'd say about 40/60.

I'm definately going to be getting out my popcorn for that one!

 

[dargonking999]

...expect something else ...a fired up Eagles Team.

A fired eagles team, means nothing. IF the talent around you, is falling apart

remember, another year, an added age. Trotter, Mcnabb, Kearse, are getting older, and guys liuke Mcnabb, and (one of your WR) are coming off injuries, who's to say how there gonna play, who's to say whats gonna happen when Mcnabb he gets drilled in his chest, when he falls arkwardly on his legs. A fired up team is usless, without players there that have talent.

 

[Doomsday101]

Ok what are the odds a brawl breaks out between TO and one of the Eagles defensive players and one or both get ejected? I mean there is going to be alot of hatred for what happened last season.

I'd say about 40/60.

I'm definately going to be getting out my popcorn for that one!

Getting overly aggresive with TO would be a big mistake. Guys trying to prove something more times than not only take themselfs out of the game plan. Add to that when you focus on 1 others on the offense tend to kill you.

 

[superpunk]

...expect something else ...a fired up Eagles Team.

I'd expect alot of

as well

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

A fired eagles team, means nothing. IF the talent around you, is falling apart

remember, another year, an added age. Trotter, Mcnabb, Kearse, are getting older, and guys liuke Mcnabb, and (one of your WR) are coming off injuries, who's to say how there gonna play, who's to say whats gonna happen when Mcnabb he gets drilled in his chest, when he falls arkwardly on his legs. A fired up team is usless, without players there that have talent.

Those are all good comebacks dargonking999, but in reality, you're dead wrong! Your concept also adds another year onto all NFL players. Listen, I'm not trying to match what you're saying over what I'm saying. Any team that believes they are fighting to win because of an unjustice, or because of what someone might have said (big mouth Freddie Mitchel) in the 2004 Super Bowl game between the Eagles and the Pats?), or another example would be when Ray Lewis wanted a piece of TO ...or let's take the classic, when Roy Willams placed the hammer down on TO ...all of these things are emotional dynamics that change the momentum of games and drive teams on to win.

You'd Better believe that those two games will be awesome ...either way! Bank on it, and set the TVO on record!

 

[RiggoForever]

Getting overly aggresive with TO would be a big mistake. Guys trying to prove something more times than not only take themselfs out of the game plan. Add to that when you focus on 1 others on the offense tend to kill you.

I agree, but I think outright rage helps in rushing the QB and stopping the run at the line of scrimmage.

Parcells did do a good job of mixing up the playcalling in the first game against the Eagles last year though, and that kept their defense off balance big time in the first game.

Once the run gets stopped, the defense gets 3rd and long opportunities and defensive coordinators like Jim Johnson feast on that.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

you can learn a player's strengths and weaknesses by playing against him, hell, watching film, you don't have the advantage just because he was a former teammate

I don't agree with you summerisfunner. No, not for the sake of disagreeing, but because that simply not an accurate statement. When you're bumping up against a player all day in practice, listening to his comments about how he needs to make adjustments, and even when he burns you ...you learn first hand from those things.

We've all agreed that TO is a threat, and a talent to any team (well most teams anyway). That said, TO made our CBs better. Listen for this name and remember it well ...Reggie Brown! You'll be hearing a lot about him this year.

 

[superpunk]

Reggie Brown! You'll be hearing a lot about him this year.

Maybe he'll drop even more passes as a #1 this year.

 

[TobiasEagle77]

Again, I say the Commanders. Greg Williams knows not to devote too much attention to one player, and I think he trusts Springs with Owens. The Eagles and Skins both have brilliant coordinators and bring pressure in different ways, but I just don't like the matchup of Sheppard on Owens. Nor do I like the matchup of Sheppard on Glenn. I think the Eagles D will have to play exceptionally well in the end zone to win. At this point the matchup reminds me of the Eagles Vikings in early 2004.

 

[31smackdown]

I think you really have to expand it to who is best set up to stop the Dallas passing game.. but if we are talking TO and only TO.. then probably Washington. Gregg Williams does a great job mixing things up and not giving away anything big. Philly and the Giants are mostly cover 2, but Philly is better at blitzing. Giants have some new corners which will help, Philly still has Dawkins, but Lewis is like Keith Davis.. more of a SS.

I think Gregg Williams really is the deciding factor here.. Dallas has been able to figure out the Giants and Philly pass defense pretty well the last few times they have played, if they were able to block for Bledsoe.

 

[SantanaOwnsU]

I think you really have to expand it to who is best set up to stop the Dallas passing game.. but if we are talking TO and only TO.. then probably Washington. Gregg Williams does a great job mixing things up and not giving away anything big. Philly and the Giants are mostly cover 2, but Philly is better at blitzing. Giants have some new corners which will help, Philly still has Dawkins, but Lewis is like Keith Davis.. more of a SS.

I think Gregg Williams really is the deciding factor here.. Dallas has been able to figure out the Giants and Philly pass defense pretty well the last few times they have played, if they were able to block for Bledsoe.

I couldn't agree more. Gregg Williams is the best D coordinator in the NFC East...Skins secondary is going to be tough this year as long as Springs stays healthy. And then we also have Sean Taylor, the anti-T.O. He's an aggressive player and has gotten into T.O.'s head in the past, I'd say he's the best 1 on 1 cover man for T.O. in the conference. Not to mention that T.O. has never really done anything against us. We handled him when he was with Philthy, we should be able to handle him with dallass.

 

[TobiasEagle77]

I couldn't agree more. Gregg Williams is the best D coordinator in the NFC East...Skins secondary is going to be tough this year as long as Springs stays healthy. And then we also have Sean Taylor, the anti-T.O. He's an aggressive player and has gotten into T.O.'s head in the past, I'd say he's the best 1 on 1 cover man for T.O. in the conference. Not to mention that T.O. has never really done anything against us. We handled him when he was with Philthy, we should be able to handle him with dallass.

Mr. U I agree with your conclusion but several things you say have me scratching my head.

Sean Taylor the anti-TO? How so?

"he's the best 1 on 1 cover man for T.O. in the conference"

??? .... ??? I mean... ??? what? Sean Taylor has never been 1 on 1 with Owens, and never will. In fact, I think it's safe to say that Owens has never been manned up with a safety.

 

[TEK2000]

Like many have said, the problem with all of this TO discussion is that, in all likelyhood, NO TEAM will be able to double TO constantly or provide very much safety help toward TO or Glenn. Every defense we face will constantly be faced with 5 recievers at any one time... TO, Glenn, Witten, Fasano, Jones/Barber. Anything more than the front 4 rushing at Bledsoe will leave a one on one situation with almost every reciever.

TO can beat 1 on 1 coverage. Glenn can beat 1 on 1 coverage. Witten can beat 1 on 1 coverage. That leaves 3 of the 5 weapons that have the capability to win their 1 on 1 battles somewhat consistently.

This style of offense will really have the defense off-balance because of the amount of weapons it has. On passing plays you have up to 5 recievers at your disposal... on running plays you have 2 decent-good blocking TE's, (hopefully) a better o-line than last season, and TO who is not such a bad blocker himself. Running or Passing capabilites without ANY change in personell... this is where the defense is off-balance because full running or passing packages are available without any "give the play away" personell changes. This offensive personell set will be capable of staying on the field AND be productive in virtually every down and yardage situation (other than like 3rd and 30).

IF the offensive line can give Bledsoe decent time, our offense will be tough to defend. It may not be a BIG PLAY offense, but it will certainly be able to move the ball.

The difference from last year's offense to this season's offense is not really a different scheme but purely personell. We now have 2 deep threat recievers (TO and Glenn), we still have the possession reciever style which TO can handle just like Keyshawn (a deep threat Keyshaw was NOT), we HOPEFULLY have a Pass Recieving AND Blocking TE in Fasano where Dan Campbell was purely a blocker, Witten will be WITTEN again hopefully (instead of having to block on almost every play), and Julius Jones and Marion Barber should have progressed in their pass catching abilities. All of these personell changes give the offense more options to move the ball with.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Ok what are the odds a brawl breaks out between TO and one of the Eagles defensive players and one or both get ejected? I mean there is going to be alot of hatred for what happened last season.

I'd say about 40/60.

I'm definately going to be getting out my popcorn for that one!

I'd say 20/80, after all, ND Kalu said about 80% were on TO's side

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't agree with you summerisfunner. No, not for the sake of disagreeing, but because that simply not an accurate statement. When you're bumping up against a player all day in practice, listening to his comments about how he needs to make adjustments, and even when he burns you ...you learn first hand from those things.

We've all agreed that TO is a threat, and a talent to any team (well most teams anyway). That said, TO made our CBs better. Listen for this name and remember it well ...Reggie Brown! You'll be hearing a lot about him this year.

well Marvin Harrison never played for the Pats, and yet they seem to know how to play to his weaknesses

 

[SantanaOwnsU]

Mr. U I agree with your conclusion but several things you say have me scratching my head.

Sean Taylor the anti-TO? How so?

"he's the best 1 on 1 cover man for T.O. in the conference"

??? .... ??? I mean... ??? what? Sean Taylor has never been 1 on 1 with Owens, and never will. In fact, I think it's safe to say that Owens has never been manned up with a safety.

Actually, yes he has. I have the film to prove it if you'd like me to post it for you. He's lined up over TO many times in man coverage while he was with the iggles in taylor's rookie season and last year. Gregg Williams has specific packages for T.O. and some of them have Taylor lined up in man coverage jamming him at the line and running with him.

The term "anti-T.O." has a double meaning. One: Taylor owns T.O. He gets in his head and like someone posted before, T.O. hasn't had more than 50 yards agaisnt the Skins in the past 3 years. He also has a rare mixture of size and speed so he can compete for jump balls with T.O., jam him at the line, and out physical him...even bully him. I've seen it with my own eyes. I'm leaving work now but I'd be happy to post some links to videos that show T.O. and Taylor matched up one on one from last season and Taylor's rookie year...and Taylor owns him.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

and Taylor owns him.

and teams with TO own the Commanders

 

[superpunk]

and Taylor owns him.

Taylor can "own" him all he wants....

Bottom line - the team that TO plays for OWNS the Commanders. or more importantly, the second receiver for said team owns the skins second corner, or whoever they try to match up against him.

Prepare to be Terry Glenn'd.

 

[SantanaOwnsU]

Actually we swept both dallass and philthy last season so I don't know how you can come to that conclusion.

 

[superpunk]

and teams with TO own the Commanders

late....bastid.