What team is meaningfully better yet?

[KJJ]

Why does everyone keep saying Philly is in freefall. They let some expensive offensive pieces go and replaced them with young talented defensive players. If we did that everyone would say we're genius.

We all want to see Philly fail and although the moves they're making don't make a lot of sense neither did some of the moves Jimmy made when he first arrived in Dallas and we saw how that turned out. Many including Cowboy fans were scratching their heads wondering if Jimmy and Jerry knew what the heck they were doing but they had a plan and in time it paid big dividends. If Alonso can bounce back from his ACL and develop into the great LB he appeared headed to be his rookie year in Buffalo and Philly can replace McCoy with a solid runner that move could workout well for them in the long run. Swapping Foles for Bradford makes no sense at all. I'm not so sure Foles isn't better than Bradford at this stage in their careers. Foles had one of the highest passer ratings in history 2 seasons ago leading Philly to the playoffs and he had them at 6-2 before he was injured this past season. Bradford doesn't fit Kelly's offense a QB has to move and who knows where his mobility will be after his latest ACL. If he has any trouble moving around or avoiding a pass rush he'll end up injured again.

If the thought is to package him in a trade to move up for Mariota who's going to want to give Philly a sweet deal for a QB who's coming off back to back ACL's and is due $13M in 2015? Granted Bradford has a big arm and has shown some flashes but his numbers haven't been very impressive and being injury prone and due a lot of money Philly may end up stuck with him. I'm not one of those who's going to say Philly is in free fall because a lot can happen between now and the 2015 season opener. It appeared the Cowboys were in free fall last year at this time with Ware and Hatcher departing. The defense that was already historically bad took a major hit and was forced to sign a bunch of castoffs. The Cowboys then ended up losing their best defensive player Sean Lee to a season ending injury in his first OTA practice. Early in training camp they lost their top defensive pick for half the season and despite how gloomy things looked the Cowboys ended up having one of their best seasons in years. Before we count out Philly we better let things play out first what looks bad now may not look so bad once the season starts.

 

[erod]

I'm not 'claiming anything', just telling you that you were wrong, along with several other people - repeatedly. That's your problem if you can't handle it.

How can somebody be right or wrong about a subjective opinion before a single game has been played?

Am I on candid camera?

 

[Stash]

How can somebody be right or wrong about a subjective opinion before a single game has been played?

Am I on candid camera?

Apparently so, because you've made it a point to argue with anyone who has disagreed with you, as if yours was the only valid opinion or right answer.

Maybe you should practice what you're preaching?

 

[erod]

It was a good discussion and both He, and I..and Three...or Four...Or Five (even though it was just One a few minutes ago)...Get the general gist of your thread and what you were getting at.

Problem was when anyone pointed out an example of what contradicted what you said...You went Nancy No No and did not want to hear an opposing opinion.

Lol, Nancy NoNo. I'm going to steal that.

But no, I'm just debating the point. I see a bunch of shuffling deck chairs so far.

 

[KalEl]

The Cowboys

 

[erod]

Apparently so, because you've made it a point to argue with anyone who has disagreed with you, as if yours was the only valid opinion or right answer.

Maybe you should practice what you're preaching?

Where did I claim to have the only right answer? It's a debate.

Done with you on this. Let's find another thread.

 

[Stash]

Where did I claim to have the only right answer? It's a debate.

Done with you on this. Let's find another thread.

Fair enough. Let's civilly agree to disagree here.

 

[muck4doo]

I stole this image today:

Go go chipper!

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Lol, Nancy NoNo. I'm going to steal that.

But no, I'm just debating the point. I see a bunch of shuffling deck chairs so far.

Glad you took the Nancy NoNo in fan.

 

[erod]

Fair enough. Let's civilly agree to disagree here.

(Punches you in the arm when mom looks away.)

 

[Stash]

(Punches you in the arm when mom looks away.)

 

[cowboys2233]

Chip Kelly seems to be paving the way for the cowboys to win the division. Dallas is looking at least 1 division game better this year.

Um, that is entirely based on resigning Murray. If we don't sign him, I cannot see how anyone could say we are looking one division game better with a straight face. Chip Kelly has made some good moves and I have no doubt in my mind that they'll go after Murray hard.

 

[Craig]

I hope they do. Let them suffer the embarrasment of his wheels falling off on top of not having a good(much less great) line for him to run behind. Kelly has made a bunch of awful moves. All except maxwell downgrade the team and maxwell, at that cost, is probably a net loss as well.

 

[Doomsday]

The Colts appear to have gotten better, on paper anyway.

 

[FLcowboy]

Seattle got a huge weapon in Jimmy Graham.

Seattle definitely cemented their position at the top of the NFC - West, and Indianapolis has taken a big step forward . Both teams are going to be tough to beat, especially the Colts playing the Jags, Titans, and Texans twice a year.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

The Colts appear to have gotten better, on paper anyway.

The average guy that they signed was 31+. They've gotten better... some. But not by some large margin.

I hate the Revis contract but by enlarge the Jets have gotten better. Fitzpatrick is better than anything Buffalo can put out there.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Seattle definitely cemented their position at the top of the NFC - West, and Indianapolis has taken a big step forward . Both teams are going to be tough to beat, especially the Colts playing the Jags, Titans, and Texans twice a year.

I don't see it that way.

I think Seattle fell back. They lost a decent, not great, but decent corner and they lost the best offensive lineman they had... And he was the best by far. And they coughed up a 1st round pick for a TE who's gotten prima-donna-ish and isn't a good blocker.

Yes, Seattle's passing offense has potentially gotten better IF their QB improves his accuracy (he'll never be Brees) and if their O-line can be better than it looks right now.

And again the Colts added a lot of age. If they had acquired all these guys about 4 years ago, they'd be kings of the mountain, but now they're just marginally better.

 

[sureletsrace]

Andre Johnson is a solid replacement for Reggie Wayne.

 

[jterrell]

Jags probably got better, but dumpster fire to just awful isn't 70M worth of value. Giving back ups plus starter money to come in and start seldom works.

SEA added a unique weapon but lost a lot of talent overall.

Pats lose Revis and Wilfork to rebound with value signings.

Colts decide to put some vets around Luck but oddly choose guys in their last legs.

PHI shuffled the deck but look at best even in talent. Foles, Maclin and Shady was the offense last year.

The Jets fare better in media than on the field.

 

[jterrell]

Andre Johnson is a solid replacement for Reggie Wayne.

Could be. Johnson is 3 years younger.
Only issue I see is Wayne was a technician while Johnson was a physical freak.
When you hit the 30s and those physical tools wane can the player still go?
Andre Johnson to me is a pretty big question mark.

AJ's number have really fallen way off since he turned 30 and also had an injury in there.
He was targeted almost 150 times last year and dropped a high number of passes.
Ended up with only 2 or 3 TDs. His long play was 35 yards which is a career low longest play for him.

Houston had told him they'd be benching him.