CFZ What the lack of urgency in this draft tells us

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

We have drafted 330lb guys in lower rounds before. Ala Bohanna. How did that work out?

Come on now.

I don't think you understood what myself and the other guy was talking about. You missed the point.

 

[Joe Realist]

Eagles break nfc east trend and go back to Super Bowl

 

[jrumann59]

My take is this was draft where the top picks were obvious and the later picks were muddled, and they sort of thought to let the draft come to them. If it is true there were only 15-18 true 1st round talents and the cost to trade up was too steep I have no issues with that. Sometimes there are "average" drafts filled with "average" talent.

 

[DenCWBY]

Philly's owner demanded that of his GM. All but two of these GM's were expected to improve their team's rosters.

It's very simple. The Cowboys owner tells the fans look at our stars, our stadium, our cheerleaders, our coverage, our profits and our pizazz but most of all, look at me. It is the ultimate white collar team.

The Eagles owner can only tell their fans look at the team. Like most other owners, for him it's all about what happens on the field and they have always been blue collar.

Just look at the Eag vs DC war rooms. You have a border line demented GM who probably doesn't know what town he's in with the DC surrounded by what looked like a family daycare center of Jones around 15 other coaches. When they got their first-round pick taken out from under them, they looked shell shocked fish slowly floating belly up to the top of the lake.
On the other hand, you look at the Eags and it looked like 40 Middle aged blue/white collar professionals focused on their laptops, tapping furiously on their cell phones. HC pacing front and center with GM huddled up with others in serious discussion. Body language says they were not figuring out their lunch orders.
I'm totally jealous of what front offices they and the 9ers have created.

 

[McKDaddy]

I have the nagging feeling this draft will be looked back on as a missed opportunity.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I don't think you understood what myself and the other guy was talking about. You missed the point.

not sure. it was said, draft big bodied run stuffing DL men in lower rounds. good ones, are taken higher in the draft.

 

[Diehardblues]

There is a huge difference in the approach and mentality of Booger vs Lurie/Roseman. This isn't the first time Lurie has been damn the torpedoes, he gradually became this owner because I can only imagine how tired he is of hearing it from those fans. They finally win one and want to know when they're going back.

It's the curse of the Optimistic GM and it has been a problem, THE problem, for a couple decades. That and he is part-time and only wants to do the fun stuff.

Roseman is forced to see how far away he is and Booger only wants to see how close he is. It's really simple because a true optimist can sell themselves completely and I don't think he's spinning most of the time, I think he actually believes it. And only a true optimist would ever use the words "moral victory" is a loss in pro sports.

And look at it from his viewpoint, did the Eagles or Niners own them? No, they did not. But are there other teams getting geared up for a run?

The one thing he lacks is that 6th sense of when to stroke the mane and when to use the whip. Instead of pressing when they're close, he backs off and offers praise and it's the worst kind of praise, he praises it forward thinking that's all he needs to get it over the line.

If I was the GM, I would have let it be known how displeased I was with how my QB protected the ball this season and in that playoff game. Then I would have doubled down by taking a QB in the 2nd round, Levis or Hooker, and sent the message that I might be preparing for life without Prescott.

This owner has made this QB too damned comfortable in his job and future. And this is not a Prescott thread but these things are connected with this GM. It is a pattern that fits the true optimists' belief that everything will work out.

Spot on Coach !!

 

[Diehardblues]

I believe they are but do you think that WR corps is solid?

And what about the OL and RB positions. This OL has an injury waiting to happen and what happens then?

Pollard coming off an injury and Jones to back him up. Is that an upgrade?

Now, in all fairness, this is not over. Just because this wasn't addressed in the draft doesn't mean it will not get addressed but this was a deep RB draft and they take an undersized feel good story scat back.

Did they take two players in this draft to make Booger's grandson and a college scout happy?

You’re on fire in this thread. Too bad some fans don’t want to hear it.

 

[Diehardblues]

Improvement would also have to take into consideration the players lost. For instance, did they improve over Schultz with Schoonmaker? Schultz was a crucial part of this offense and a comfort to the QB.

They don’t look like we have improved at TE or RB.

 

[Diehardblues]

It was not an exciting draft, even the QB picks were nothing special and there were no Hollywood WR's. And the Cowboys treated it as such.

The talking heads could only muster excitement because of trades. It was really a boring draft. Even the NFL realized that and decided they needed a loud and annoying cover band and more drunk fans channeling KISS.

Other than breaking the pattern and going DT in the 1st, which may prove to be the only real difference maker out of this draft. The LB might be something as he is an all over the field player.

But what does the lack of action by the Cowboys tell us? They think they are fine just where they are. No need to add a Hollywood TE, or a stud RB or a stud OL, they like their guys.

In that regard, this is the 2009 draft when they thought all they needed was depth and ST.

In 2022, the Cowboys were in the 3rd position in the NFC and I think they feel nothing has changed, they are still relevant and within striking distance of the Eagles and Niners. Forget the Lions, Giants and Seahawks, they do not matter.

There was much happiness with the moves the Cowboys made in the off season with the acquisitions made, and justifiably so as they usual make no noise. However, that came at a cost. In the GM's mind, that moved the needle so the draft wasn't as critical as usual and going into the season with a thin OL and WR corps doesn't seem to concern him.

This draft illustrated the real difference between a GM that really wants to win because he has to and one that just wants to be relevant and the most covered by the media. The Cowboys went about this as if they've already arrived; the Eagles went about it as if they're not there yet.

All around, it was a pretty lackluster draft and the Cowboys sure played their part in that. Because there is no hurry to get better, they feel they're good enough.

Yep

Problem is other teams did get better. It’s marginal for us when considering several key positions we didn’t. DT might be only position we absolutely got better.

 

[DandyDon52]

It was not an exciting draft, even the QB picks were nothing special and there were no Hollywood WR's. And the Cowboys treated it as such.

The talking heads could only muster excitement because of trades. It was really a boring draft. Even the NFL realized that and decided they needed a loud and annoying cover band and more drunk fans channeling KISS.

Other than breaking the pattern and going DT in the 1st, which may prove to be the only real difference maker out of this draft. The LB might be something as he is an all over the field player.

But what does the lack of action by the Cowboys tell us? They think they are fine just where they are. No need to add a Hollywood TE, or a stud RB or a stud OL, they like their guys.

In that regard, this is the 2009 draft when they thought all they needed was depth and ST.

In 2022, the Cowboys were in the 3rd position in the NFC and I think they feel nothing has changed, they are still relevant and within striking distance of the Eagles and Niners. Forget the Lions, Giants and Seahawks, they do not matter.

There was much happiness with the moves the Cowboys made in the off season with the acquisitions made, and justifiably so as they usual make no noise. However, that came at a cost. In the GM's mind, that moved the needle so the draft wasn't as critical as usual and going into the season with a thin OL and WR corps doesn't seem to concern him.

This draft illustrated the real difference between a GM that really wants to win because he has to and one that just wants to be relevant and the most covered by the media. The Cowboys went about this as if they've already arrived; the Eagles went about it as if they're not there yet.

All around, it was a pretty lackluster draft and the Cowboys sure played their part in that. Because there is no hurry to get better, they feel they're good enough.

well said, I called it a conservative draft by cowboys, they just wanted as many ok guys they could get.
They made some minor trade ups and down, but insignificant really.

I would rather get 2-3 impact players for this season, than 7 guys for the future , that need time to develop.
Gibbs mazi and mayer would have been the players I went all out for, and offer the rest of the picks for this year and maybe some from 24 to
get the guys I want.
As for mazi, If I thought a better DT might be in next draft, I would have just gone for the other 2.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

not sure. it was said, draft big bodied run stuffing DL men in lower rounds. good ones, are taken higher in the draft.

Yeah.....absolutely nothing to do with the point.

 

[DandyDon52]

They don’t look like we have improved at TE or RB.

they havent, unless duece turns out to be impactful. The TE they got cant be shultz in his first season, and I dont know about the other 2
but none of them are top te's.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Caleb Williams in next years draft,

your post is saved.....will chat in a couple of years

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Yeah.....absolutely nothing to do with the point.

hmm, so you are not against drafting a run stuffing DL man, just not sure he was a top 30. but then according to Cowboys he was 14th on their board and they got him at 26....every team's draft board is different. the good ones, get it right and find the right players more than not....I don't buy into all these draft pundits and their rankings. too many out there and everyone picks one that supports their view. the point, they drafted a guy that ranked highly on their board. I was happy to take a first round DT....even if it was a slight reach, even according to you who questioned him being top 30

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

hmm, so you are not against drafting a run stuffing DL man, just not sure he was a top 30. but then according to Cowboys he was 14th on their board and they got him at 26....every team's draft board is different. the good ones, get it right and find the right players more than not....I don't buy into all these draft pundits and their rankings. too many out there and everyone picks one that supports their view. the point, they drafted a guy that ranked highly on their board. I was happy to take a first round DT....even if it was a slight reach, even according to you who questioned him being top 30

Ok... if he's top 30 on ur list, then you should be content!

No need to worry about MY opinion

 

[jaythecowboy]

It was not an exciting draft, even the QB picks were nothing special and there were no Hollywood WR's. And the Cowboys treated it as such.

The talking heads could only muster excitement because of trades. It was really a boring draft. Even the NFL realized that and decided they needed a loud and annoying cover band and more drunk fans channeling KISS.

Other than breaking the pattern and going DT in the 1st, which may prove to be the only real difference maker out of this draft. The LB might be something as he is an all over the field player.

But what does the lack of action by the Cowboys tell us? They think they are fine just where they are. No need to add a Hollywood TE, or a stud RB or a stud OL, they like their guys.

In that regard, this is the 2009 draft when they thought all they needed was depth and ST.

In 2022, the Cowboys were in the 3rd position in the NFC and I think they feel nothing has changed, they are still relevant and within striking distance of the Eagles and Niners. Forget the Lions, Giants and Seahawks, they do not matter.

There was much happiness with the moves the Cowboys made in the off season with the acquisitions made, and justifiably so as they usual make no noise. However, that came at a cost. In the GM's mind, that moved the needle so the draft wasn't as critical as usual and going into the season with a thin OL and WR corps doesn't seem to concern him.

This draft illustrated the real difference between a GM that really wants to win because he has to and one that just wants to be relevant and the most covered by the media. The Cowboys went about this as if they've already arrived; the Eagles went about it as if they're not there yet.

All around, it was a pretty lackluster draft and the Cowboys sure played their part in that. Because there is no hurry to get better, they feel they're good enough.

the eagles didn't do anything different except have more draft capital.

 

[Big_D]

Kicker in round 3... that would've really shown some urgency!!

 

[shabazz]

Philly improved their team. The Cowboys didn't.

The Cowboys improved their potential roster but the Eagles potential is higher since they moved up and made it happen

 

[75boyz]

There is a huge difference in the approach and mentality of Booger vs Lurie/Roseman. This isn't the first time Lurie has been damn the torpedoes, he gradually became this owner because I can only imagine how tired he is of hearing it from those fans. They finally win one and want to know when they're going back.

It's the curse of the Optimistic GM and it has been a problem, THE problem, for a couple decades. That and he is part-time and only wants to do the fun stuff.

Roseman is forced to see how far away he is and Booger only wants to see how close he is. It's really simple because a true optimist can sell themselves completely and I don't think he's spinning most of the time, I think he actually believes it. And only a true optimist would ever use the words "moral victory" is a loss in pro sports.

And look at it from his viewpoint, did the Eagles or Niners own them? No, they did not. But are there other teams getting geared up for a run?

The one thing he lacks is that 6th sense of when to stroke the mane and when to use the whip. Instead of pressing when they're close, he backs off and offers praise and it's the worst kind of praise, he praises it forward thinking that's all he needs to get it over the line.

If I was the GM, I would have let it be known how displeased I was with how my QB protected the ball this season and in that playoff game. Then I would have doubled down by taking a QB in the 2nd round, Levis or Hooker, and sent the message that I might be preparing for life without Prescott.

This owner has made this QB too damned comfortable in his job and future. And this is not a Prescott thread but these things are connected with this GM. It is a pattern that fits the true optimists' belief that everything will work out.

You made me cry with tears of joy reading this.
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