CFZ What the lack of urgency in this draft tells us

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Ok, so outside of individual contribution, what does Mazi potentially bring that opens up our 2nd tier by potentially taking on the double teams necessary? The mazi pick is about stopping the run and to allow our speed to roam and not get caught in traffic..?

I get what the position brings, but question whether the individual was one of th 30 best players in the draft.

There's 330lb 1tech guys available in the 7th rd. Just a matter of whether you think Mazi the individual was a Top 30 player. IMO, he was not.... but that's just me. That said, it's not like I think the guy was a 3rd rounder.

 

[CCBoy]

disagree 100% Drafts better than it looks and they dont feel anything, they picked players in the bottom 10 of every round and picked players they felt could add to the team.. no glitz to fans doesn't mean they were satisfied but they did have most of the 22 starters already set and those payers could turn out much better then it appears on paper. you can call it a layup all you want, i don't see it as that.

But hey trade that blue Jersey in for green wings and be done. isnt that who you hound others when they dont appear happy.

They looked to be pretty involved to this fan, lol.

 

[CCBoy]

I get what the position brings, but question whether the individual was one of th 30 best players in the draft.

There's 330lb 1tech guys available in the 7th rd. Just a matter of whether you think Mazi the individual was a Top 30 player. IMO, he was not.... but that's just me. That said, it's not like I think the guy was a 3rd rounder.

Didn't follow Michigan after a couple of seasons...huh?

 

[drawandstrike]

Ok, so outside of individual contribution, what does Mazi potentially bring that opens up our 2nd tier by potentially taking on the double teams necessary? The mazi pick is about stopping the run and to allow our speed to roam and not get caught in traffic..?

What I saw last year was our interior line getting consistently blown off the ball and our LBer corp having to chase ballcarriers downfield to make tackles. Seems pretty clear that Mazi Smith was drafted to stop that frequent occurrence.

In run yardage surrendered last season Dallas was a very weak 22nd in the league. The red zone D was solid on the ground since they only gave up 9 rushing TD's, but between the 40's we got pushed back consistently. That is what needed to change.

We already had a top 10 passing defense last year [#8, at least, in the # of yards surrendered; in scoring we gave up 23 TD's via air]. We need to see this team have more success stopping the run in the middle of the field if we want to advance past 12 wins and the 2nd round in the playoffs.

If Mazi can command double teams and provide a push up the middle that does change the defensive picture. We'll stop seeing LVE and Micah having to chase down ballcarriers from behind.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Didn't follow Michigan after a couple of seasons...huh?

I don't know what you follow.

Not sure what ur point is. I'm stating that IMO Mazi was around a 45-50 2nd rd talent. If u feel differently, great! Ur opinion.

 

[1972COWBOY]

Just tells me they are contempt with status quo and thats not winning SB's.

 

[CCBoy]

I don't know what you follow.

Not sure what ur point is. I'm stating that IMO Mazi was around a 45-50 2nd rd talent. If u feel differently, great! Ur opinion.

That pretty well ignores an evaluation of not really understanding the positives and reasons of why this was not another stupid or ignorant choice. This choice is when the Eagles now have a stronger team run by a very good quarterback and now Dallas also needs to grow better to more easily match up.

Perhaps away from just stereotyped logic, if there was more true to topic observations. the reasons and validity for this pick would be the insight.

45-50, then where did you have Smith last year?

 

[CATCH17]

Silly statement....1st DT we have drafted in the 1st round since Maryland and instantly upgrades the defense...TE is the best blocking TE we have by far. Got a very good LB that is a tackling missile and a few other pieces that can certainly help.

The Cowboys improved for sure

They improved the Micro but they didn’t improve the Macro.

 

[Jipper]

They improved the Micro but they didn’t improve the Macro.

I disagree at least on defense, adding a true NT to the equation changes the whole dynamic of the defense. That was exactly the type of move that has a lot of ripple effects

 

[CATCH17]

I disagree at least on defense, adding a true NT to the equation changes the whole dynamic of the defense. That was exactly the type of move that has a lot of ripple effects

Are defense was already elite by todays NFL standards.

If we can’t turn around and hand the ball off Dak is eventually going to lose us games because he is not a talented QB at the end of the day.

 

[JayFord]

You guys have said the same **** every year for the last 8-10 and yet we’ve been probably the best drafting team in the league. Trust the process..

You didn’t like Tfred
Martin wasn’t sexy
Zeke was the flashy player
Tyler another we “reached” on
Parsons…”we needed a CB”

1st round trench players just make the team better


Nolan doesn’t see the field with Parsons and Lawrence on this team.

Torrance doesn’t see the field when Tyron is healthy

Top 2 RB’s were gone, which is really the only position that would have made a large impact

This team drafts VERY well....yes we want a NFC Title game and a sb but if we're going off draft

The team is probably top 3 drafting wise

 

[CampJR]

I don't know what you follow.

Not sure what ur point is. I'm stating that IMO Mazi was around a 45-50 2nd rd talent. If u feel differently, great! Ur opinion.

Every prominent pre draft analysis had him 25-40… you’re exaggerating to try to prove your narrative.

 

[Jipper]

Are defense was already elite by todays NFL standards.

If we can’t turn around and hand the ball off Dak is eventually going to lose us games because he is not a talented QB at the end of the day.

You made a statement about not improving the macro to which I just gave you the specific example om how it was improved - our defense last year was strong for sure but certainly room for improvement especially against the run and giving the pass rushers more opportunities.

The comment you are making with reference to dak and the line simply implies that you aren't happy the guard issue wasn't fixed, which is fair, but the offseason is still not done and there are going to be plenty of options to address with the post draft FA period.

Bottom line is don't let your worries about dak cloud the impact this team just made by addressing a spot that has been a glaring weakness for a long time.

The defense will be elite and they will solve the guard issue.

 

[CWR]

I don't know what you follow.

Not sure what ur point is. I'm stating that IMO Mazi was around a 45-50 2nd rd talent. If u feel differently, great! Ur opinion.

Except KC was on the horn, trying to trade up with us to take him. It was now or never.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm stating that IMO Mazi was around a 45-50 2nd rd talent.

FWIW, Kiper had him at 30 and McShay had him at 38.

 

[bsbellomy]

It was not an exciting draft, even the QB picks were nothing special and there were no Hollywood WR's. And the Cowboys treated it as such.

The talking heads could only muster excitement because of trades. It was really a boring draft. Even the NFL realized that and decided they needed a loud and annoying cover band and more drunk fans channeling KISS.

Other than breaking the pattern and going DT in the 1st, which may prove to be the only real difference maker out of this draft. The LB might be something as he is an all over the field player.

But what does the lack of action by the Cowboys tell us? They think they are fine just where they are. No need to add a Hollywood TE, or a stud RB or a stud OL, they like their guys.

In that regard, this is the 2009 draft when they thought all they needed was depth and ST.

In 2022, the Cowboys were in the 3rd position in the NFC and I think they feel nothing has changed, they are still relevant and within striking distance of the Eagles and Niners. Forget the Lions, Giants and Seahawks, they do not matter.

There was much happiness with the moves the Cowboys made in the off season with the acquisitions made, and justifiably so as they usual make no noise. However, that came at a cost. In the GM's mind, that moved the needle so the draft wasn't as critical as usual and going into the season with a thin OL and WR corps doesn't seem to concern him.

This draft illustrated the real difference between a GM that really wants to win because he has to and one that just wants to be relevant and the most covered by the media. The Cowboys went about this as if they've already arrived; the Eagles went about it as if they're not there yet.

All around, it was a pretty lackluster draft and the Cowboys sure played their part in that. Because there is no hurry to get better, they feel they're good enough.

I think instead of urgency you could have put effort. Tell me one other GM in the league that's picks two players out of pure nepotism. They are all worried about keeping their jobs.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It was not an exciting draft, even the QB picks were nothing special and there were no Hollywood WR's. And the Cowboys treated it as such.

The talking heads could only muster excitement because of trades. It was really a boring draft. Even the NFL realized that and decided they needed a loud and annoying cover band and more drunk fans channeling KISS.

Other than breaking the pattern and going DT in the 1st, which may prove to be the only real difference maker out of this draft. The LB might be something as he is an all over the field player.

But what does the lack of action by the Cowboys tell us? They think they are fine just where they are. No need to add a Hollywood TE, or a stud RB or a stud OL, they like their guys.

In that regard, this is the 2009 draft when they thought all they needed was depth and ST.

In 2022, the Cowboys were in the 3rd position in the NFC and I think they feel nothing has changed, they are still relevant and within striking distance of the Eagles and Niners. Forget the Lions, Giants and Seahawks, they do not matter.

There was much happiness with the moves the Cowboys made in the off season with the acquisitions made, and justifiably so as they usual make no noise. However, that came at a cost. In the GM's mind, that moved the needle so the draft wasn't as critical as usual and going into the season with a thin OL and WR corps doesn't seem to concern him.

This draft illustrated the real difference between a GM that really wants to win because he has to and one that just wants to be relevant and the most covered by the media. The Cowboys went about this as if they've already arrived; the Eagles went about it as if they're not there yet.

All around, it was a pretty lackluster draft and the Cowboys sure played their part in that. Because there is no hurry to get better, they feel they're good enough.

This was pretty dumb.

Tell us what would you have done to make it exciting and why?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Philly improved their team. The Cowboys didn't.

Philly also lost a bunch of players in off-season and 5 of their top 10 players are 33 years and older. They also had two first round picks.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I wouldn't have taken the same players the Cowboys took but we'll see how it goes.
tomAtoes, tomAHtoes

Fwiw, they did use 2 draft picks to get
Stephon Gilmore
Brandin Cooks

in addition to what they got over the weekend.

The 2nd round pick shocked me a bit, especially with the beast OG O'Cyrus sitting right there for them (or several others)
but again...guess we'll see

If I had a complaint it would be not taking Terrence in the 2nd. I think schoonmaker could have been had in the 3rd. With that said he is going to help the run game specially runs to the outside with Pollard, so perhaps he was drafted with a plan in mind. Put him and Ferguson in 22 personnel and let's see how we do. He can be short field threat, good blocker and Ferguson brings some catching ability to the table and was already a better blocker than Schultz.

Everyone says we should be more smash mouth football like SF. We do and they complain....

Some just want to complain no matter what

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Improvement would also have to take into consideration the players lost. For instance, did they improve over Schultz with Schoonmaker? Schultz was a crucial part of this offense and a comfort to the QB.

It's more complicated than that. When we lost Witten people wanted a TE. We signed a piece of crap to a 20M contract and all the while Schultz worked his way up. All along people wanted Schultz gone, now they say how do we replace him....he is a bum until we have to make an argument then how do we replace him.

I think Ferguson can step in and replace most of his production. Adding Cooks helps on less reliance on TE production.