Cowboy4ever
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Let him walk. We aren't winning a SB with him as the QB unless the D vastly improves so no need to waste Good Money on an average player.
“ no one” were NOT my words. I said “most” don’t sit their QB. You have misinterpreted me again. Shocking. LolMy God!!!! You cant even remember what you say an hour ago.
HERE is YOUR post:
Always think you have to belittle people to make your point. Buzz off if you can’t be more cordial. Tough internet bully.
Of course no one sits a QB in Cap era 2 or 3 years.
is there a team in the nfl that does as you suggest, and just keep drafting qbs every year or other year as you describe?I would never pass up a good QB even if I have one and he is young. Personally, I would be QB university. DRAFT em, GROOM them, trade them or start them. And keep them coming.
And to your point...…..if they don't work out, cut and keep going.
I would probably do the same thing with RB's, especially if I had a great Oline. Make them look good behind our line for a few years, then trade them.
But that's just me.
my comment was in response to someone saying if Dak not gotten it done in 4 years, they would walk away from him. I brought up QBs that took a while to win it... I mentioned Dan Fouts because he never won it.... would you walk away from Dan Fouts after 6 or 7 years because he , "Hadnt gotten it done?"I don't see how that has anything to do with planning ahead, drafting, and attempting to groom our next QB.
45 really isnt going to be alot in 5 years for a QBPersonally, I am disappointed that he is all about the money. I guess in reality, I cant blame him for that, but I thought this process would be different. He is clearly trying to maximize EVERY dollar he can get now and in the future.
That being said, what do we do about his demands? Its pretty clear now that he will either accept the 35 million for 4 years or wants that 45 million tagged on for the 5th year. I think at the end of the day, if that 5th year came around, most of us would be more than happy to have paid that extra 10 million for another year. Dak will continue to improve and with MM I have a feeling this team is really going to take off. By then, Dak will be right outside the top 5 if not in there by that time.
Most likely Cooper and Zeke will be let go after another two years. That would free up 35 million.
Still, its a lot to ask for. I think we either do one of two things:
-Just go with the 4 year deal at 35 million per and start drafting and grooming a young QB for 4 years from now. And hopefully look to trade Dak and get something for him. This is NOT a bad plan. Especially if we devote the time to finding that young replacement and he is ready once the contract is up.
-Give into that 5th year, but simply pay him 45 million for that 5th year and don't make it guaranteed. So if we really want to keep him and we are in some kind of SB run then we have an option. If we can get them to agree to that.
I don't see any way that we should give in to this 5th year for 45 million. My only concern is Jerry. Will he take too long to groom a new guy or not do it at all?
Thoughts?
No, he gave 3 examples which of course isn’t the norm across the league . Especially in Cap era.is there a team in the nfl that does as you suggest, and just keep drafting qbs every year or other year as you describe?
McCarthy wont last more than 2 years here if Dalton is our starting QBTrade Dak, save the money and play Dalton. Nooch will be the man in 2 years under MM tutelage.
I need more help in understanding. How about you give me 3 or 4 examples of teams doing this. pLEASE DONT BRING UP rODGERS AS HE WAS DRAFTED TO BE the starter AND A 1ST WAS USED ON HIM.Nobody blindly sits a QB for 2 or 3 years. LOL
There is that little part called...…..EVALUATION. Chances are, you aren't going to hit right away. But if you start now, you have a couple tries to find the right guy. Whenever the a young kid is ready, you can decide what to do. Either trade the incumbent, goto the young kid, whatever.
Does that make it more clear for you or do you need more help understanding?
Pretty sure I said exactly this in a post yesterday.Personally, I am disappointed that he is all about the money. I guess in reality, I cant blame him for that, but I thought this process would be different. He is clearly trying to maximize EVERY dollar he can get now and in the future.
That being said, what do we do about his demands? Its pretty clear now that he will either accept the 35 million for 4 years or wants that 45 million tagged on for the 5th year. I think at the end of the day, if that 5th year came around, most of us would be more than happy to have paid that extra 10 million for another year. Dak will continue to improve and with MM I have a feeling this team is really going to take off. By then, Dak will be right outside the top 5 if not in there by that time.
Most likely Cooper and Zeke will be let go after another two years. That would free up 35 million.
Still, its a lot to ask for. I think we either do one of two things:
-Just go with the 4 year deal at 35 million per and start drafting and grooming a young QB for 4 years from now. And hopefully look to trade Dak and get something for him. This is NOT a bad plan. Especially if we devote the time to finding that young replacement and he is ready once the contract is up.
-Give into that 5th year, but simply pay him 45 million for that 5th year and don't make it guaranteed. So if we really want to keep him and we are in some kind of SB run then we have an option. If we can get them to agree to that.
I don't see any way that we should give in to this 5th year for 45 million. My only concern is Jerry. Will he take too long to groom a new guy or not do it at all?
Thoughts?
If Fat Mikey doesn’t have any more success than Garrett did probably won’t last anyway.McCarthy wont last more than 2 years here if Dalton is our starting QB
ok, Jimmy G was always gonna be the MAIN one. But seriously? Cooper Rush is an example? uhm, nah.No, its just like he said...…..just pointing out the obvious. You say dumb things you get called out for being dumb. That's the way it works on here. No different for me or anyone else.
And he completely nailed you on your "revert to Jerry" when you get in trouble.
How long did Garrappolo sit? Cooper rush? How long will Denucci sit? Romo?
So draft a guy, check him out for one year then play him or cut him? You remain clueless at best.
Wont sniff that with Dalton as his starter. Thats setting him up to failIf Fat Mikey doesn’t have any more success than Garrett did probably won’t last anyway.
I’ll give him 2 years to reach a championship game or he’s done. We can be frustrated with any HC.
If Dak holds equal responsibility to any other player on offense than why pay him more? Why are QBs paid more than any other position if their responsibility isn’t any greater then other players?
Romo had the same issue. Highest rated QB in the 4th quarter and all that. In the end it meant nothing and this fan base was quick to kick him to the curb at the first opportunity.
The minute Dak signs this deal he will be the offense. There will be no more excuses. Any offensive woes will be thrown at his feet and rightfully so because you don’t get a massive raise without a massive increase in responsibility.
I understand your view on Dak and I respect it but I’ll not get behind making him the highest paid QB. Never.
“ no one” were NOT my words. I said “most” don’t sit their QB. You have misinterpreted me again. Shocking. Lol
my comment was in response to someone saying if Dak not gotten it done in 4 years, they would walk away from him. I brought up QBs that took a while to win it... I mentioned Dan Fouts because he never won it.... would you walk away from Dan Fouts after 6 or 7 years because he , "Hadnt gotten it done?"