What to expect from the Dallas Cowboys in Week 1 of free agency

[CowboyRoy]

The defense will likely be no worse than last year's that went 13-3. There is no excuse for this team to not make the playoffs next year. None.

Well unless Dak gets hurt.

The talent in the division hasn't gone up all that much so far. Eagles did add two WRs but they now have no CBs on their team, still don't have a pass rush and are now likely going to lose a starting DT. So at best, it's a wash for them. Giants probably got a bit better with Marshall but still have issues at OL and RB. Skins are a disaster.

No team in the division made such a huge splash yesterday that would shake up the NFCE standings at this point.

Marshall is a hell of a pickup. And Philly got a couple of great additions at WR, which was their biggest need.

In my opinion our defense overachieved last year. On top of that we are seeing two solid rotation tackles gone and 3/4ths of our starting secondary. How that translates into a wash is unclear to me.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Call it whatever you want - cap mismanagement, frugal FA spending, whatever - Campbell was never going to be an option, even if we had space IMO.

Was never going to be an option? Says who?

If we had the cap space and pass rusher was our biggest need, we would be nuts not to sign him. Now I cant comment on whether that would be an option for Jones or not. Only that it should be.

 

[8FOR!3]

I think Stephen is correct in his assessment. I think Cowboys will make some moves but it is not a bright idea to go over spending in FA, it seldom works out the way the buyer hope is will.

Looking at teams in the NFC East each year we hear all this whining about how Philly, NY and Washington went out and bought players and Cowboys did not do nearly as much yet in the end NY, Philly and Washington have not benefited. I watch team like Jacksonville spending big and they still suck, Miami went out and paid big for Suh yet are still no closer to being a top team. I have no issue of using FA but frankly it seldom works out where the money spent equals the value of the player

Jacksonville just paid a CB who's had one good year a 5 year 60 million dollar contract. If they don't have an elite defense next year they're screwed.

 

[Sydla]

Was never going to be an option? Says who?

If we had the cap space and pass rusher was our biggest need, we would be nuts not to sign him. Now I cant comment on whether that would be an option for Jones or not. Only that it should be.

Says our GM who has said for three straight years that they simply will not overpay for players in FA.

 

[guag]

Son, I don't believe I'd of told that one. Thinking before typing is appreciated at all times.

The fact that you (with your user name) replied to this is epic.

 

[Sydla]

Marshall is a hell of a pickup. And Philly got a couple of great additions at WR, which was their biggest need.

In my opinion our defense overachieved last year. On top of that we are seeing two solid rotation tackles gone and 3/4ths of our starting secondary. How that translates into a wash is unclear to me.

First, I said it was a wash for the Eagles. They picked up two WRs, but their defense is worse now. They don't have one starting caliber CB on their team now and they are losing their starting DT in Logan. That's the wash. They may have improved on offense but they took a step back on defense and have CLEAR holes there.

And I am not sure the defense overachieved last year. By most measures they were a middle of the pack defense which is right about where their talent level was.

 

[LittleD]

The fact that you (with your user name) replied to this is epic.

Man's (an old man like me" gott's to know his limitations.
They wouldn't look my way long enough to measure these days.

 

[Bowdown27]

What to expect from the Cowboys in Week 1 of free agency.............................
















Nothing.

lol literally what I was thinking

 

[rynochop]

I watch team like Jacksonville spending big and they still suck, Miami went out and paid big for Suh yet are still no closer to being a top team. I have no issue of using FA but frankly it seldom works out where the money spent equals the value of the player

They had a pretty alarming stat on the Jags yesterday, they've by far outspent everyone in guaranteed money in FA in the last few years and like a .260 winning percentage to show for it. I think it was 280 million in guaranteed money

 

[Toruk_Makto]

McClay is on speed dial looking for Pro Bowl players wishing to come to Dallas on 3yr 10mil contracts.
Ya'll hurry on down now! Several slots open so don't delay.

We're looking to draft, develop and retain pro bowl players. Not overpay guys who you hope at best can give you equal value to their contract and in reality will likely give you below value for their money.

Why does such a smart strategy annoy you so much?

Look at what Church and Crawford got. Guys people couldn't wait to run out of town. Free Agency is by and large a losing proposition. You don't ignore it. And occasionally you drop big coin. But it should be a surprise (see Patriots, Gillmore) when you do not the norm (Jacksonville).

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Most the answers to our defensive and all problems have been right there in FA for us. The problem is we mismanage the cap and we cant sign the people we want.

How many horrible deals are on the cap?

 

[Pants]

What to expect in first week of free agency?

* Frustration
* Anger
* Increased alcohol intake

what the Cowboys expect??? they expect to sit by and do zeeerrrroooooowwwww (lose a guy, lose a guy, lose a guy, release a guy, WAIT, don't release him, trade him, WAIT,no market...hold up the rest of the plan waiting for that choice...)

 

[LittleD]

We're looking to draft, develop and retain pro bowl players. Not overpay guys who you hope at best can give you equal value to their contract and in reality will likely give you below value for their money.

Why does such a smart strategy annoy you so much?

Look at what Church and Crawford got. Guys people couldn't wait to run out of town. Free Agency is by and large a losing proposition. You don't ignore it. And occasionally you drop big coin. But it should be a surprise (see Patriots, Gillmore) when you do not the norm (Jacksonville).

You actually misread my thoughts or maybe I didn't make them clear enough. I support everything McClay and Stephen have
implemented with cost controls over the last 3 years. If they could entice any "Pro Bowl" or "All Pro" players from any team to
visit and sign a 3yr contract for so little, I think they would jump over the moon.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Says our GM who has said for three straight years that they simply will not overpay for players in FA.

This is the whole point. We are unable to do all of the moves I mentioned because of the salary cap mismanagement. Had we managed the cap better over the years virtually all of the holes we need filled are right there sitting for us. And yah, you have to pay a lot to get them. All worth it if you have a contender ready team like we do and your missing a few key pieces.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I would sign Poe, I would have signed one of those great corners that Either New England or the Bills signed, and I would have gone after Calais or the Philly DE that just got let go.

I would cut Crawford and trade Romo. Not sure that would do it but then again I am not the one that mismanaged the cap.

You sign those three guys and you have the potential for one heck of a defense.

I would also sign Claiborne. 4 million per year I would do it. When healthy he is a top corner from what I saw last year.

Oh just Calais, Poe and Gilmore is all?

 

[Sydla]

This is the whole point. We are unable to do all of the moves I mentioned because of the salary cap mismanagement. Had we managed the cap better over the years virtually all of the holes we need filled are right there sitting for us. And yah, you have to pay a lot to get them. All worth it if you have a contender ready team like we do and your missing a few key pieces.

That's where we disagree. I don't think Stephen has any desire to spend a lot on big names even if he had the space. I think he's pretty much focused on building through the draft and signing your own. I don't think he has any desire to wade into the FA market after $14MM cornerbacks and $17MM wide receivers.

My issue with the front office is I believe there are mid-level moves that could be made that wont kill our cap that we pass up waiting for the real bargain shopping to begin. In other words, I am not behind a situation where we would enter and overpay for a Olivier Vernon. But I think a guy like Julius Peppers who would be much cheaper would have been a smart move.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That's where we disagree. I don't think Stephen has any desire to spend a lot on big names even if he had the space. I think he's pretty much focused on building through the draft and signing your own. I don't think he has any desire to wade into the FA market after $14MM cornerbacks and $17MM wide receivers.

My issue with the front office is I believe there are mid-level moves that could be made that wont kill our cap that we pass up waiting for the real bargain shopping to begin. In other words, I am not behind a situation where we would enter and overpay for a Olivier Vernon. But I think a guy like Julius Peppers who would be much cheaper would have been a smart move.

Well...........then we can forget about winning the SB any time soon. Because there is little chance we find stud corner and stud DE's in the draft that will develop quickly enough.

I also think he says stuff like that because he knows he cant do it.

And what does it matter if its our guys or someone elses if the guy is a stud?

We signed Dez for 17 million. I would take Pryor AND Marshall over just Dez all day long. And both of those guys together may not cost 17 million.

 

[Sydla]

Well...........then we can forget about winning the SB any time soon. Because there is little chance we find stud corner and stud DE's in the draft that will develop quickly enough.

I also think he says stuff like that because he knows he cant do it.

And what does it matter if its our guys or someone elses if the guy is a stud?

We signed Dez for 17 million. I would take Pryor AND Marshall over just Dez all day long. And both of those guys together may not cost 17 million.

You just sound like one of those Cowboys fans who hates just about everything the Cowboys do.

 

[Plankton]

 

[CowboyRoy]

You just sound like one of those Cowboys fans who hates just about everything the Cowboys do.

That would not be far from the truth. I like about 30% of what they do.

In my opinion the Cowboys are a poorly run, poorly coached team. Although I do like the coordinators.

We arent winning the SB until we get another stud corner and a stud DE. Every year is wasted until we fill those wholes. How do you expect to fill both of those?

FYI.....I am not a guy that is for spending wildly in FA. But I just dont see any choice at this point. And the team is there. WE are a contender. So if you are to do it, now is the right time.