What would it take for us to sign Freeney or Dumervil?

[Sydla]

Has Dallas brought in Freeney or Elvis and offer them a contract yet?

I mean they could...still have heard nothing that says they are interested in them even though they are apparently cheap and great mentors. Seems at this point they will stick with what they have. Hmmm who would of thought the might have done that?

/sarcasm off

Of course down the road could be another story.

We've largely moved beyond the discussion if there is a spot in Dallas for either. We've now moved onto the discussion that still permeates around this place that older, veteran players are useless wastes of roster space.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Just wondering what the coaching staff would have to see in OTA's and training camp at RDE for them to say that Lawrence, Taco, Tapper simply are not enough to pressure the edge, and that we need to sign a designated 3rd down rusher like Freeney or Dumervil? I know this is not our style, but if we get past the first 3 preseason games and Lawrence is not the same player he was in the 2014 postseason, and Taco and Tapper look like rookies who will need a full year of experience before making an impact, would we go that route if it meant a consistent RDE edge rush on 3rd downs and Aaron Rodgers and others having to at least worry about their blindside? Come tomorrow, we will have Romo's cap space to play with...

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

We've largely moved beyond the discussion if there is a spot in Dallas for either. We've now moved onto the discussion that still permeates around this place that older, veteran players are useless wastes of roster space.

Oh...so they have not.
Thanks.

 

[robjay04]

Beasley himself credited Freeney for his success. Nobody's opinion counts more than his. Nobody's.

He did not credit him for his success.

He said he is a "great help".

I hope Beasley is not going to credit any one man for his success.

I'm sure Freeney did help...but Beas is talented enough to reach his potential on his own.

 

[Stash]

He did not credit him for his success.

He said he is a "great help".

I hope Beasley is not going to credit any one man for his success.

I'm sure Freeney did help...but Beas is talented enough to reach his potential on his own.

Oh please. You're well beyond embarrassing yourself with this nonsense. Everyone else can see it, you should wake up and realize it.

 

[robjay04]

Oh please. You're well beyond embarrassing yourself with this nonsense. Everyone else can see it, you should wake up and realize it.

I realize it's better to have a player that actually produces rather than a player that is a "mentor".

Give me 6 sacks over 3 sacks and a mentor. That's what you pay the coaches for.

 

[speedkilz88]

Here's the quote:

"He's meant so much to me," Beasley said of Freeney. "Bringing him on this team and into this organization has been a great help. He just preaches a work-hard mentality and compete at a high level and the way to prepare yourself each and every week."

I think Leon Lett can handle that without taken a roster spot.

 

[robjay04]

Here's the quote:



I think Leon Lett can handle that without taken a roster spot.

That's what you pay him for.

If our coaches are that bad that we need to carry a player on the downside of his career to teach players how to work hard then we have other problems.

 

[dallasdave]

A wave of his majesty, King jerry's hand

YOUR GRACE

 

[BAT]

Freeney is a part time player and I wouldn't want him if he paid the Cowboys to be on the team. He did not do much last year and he's now another year older and way past the age of being useful. Stephen has said it, we aren't shopping for old guys past usefulness.

Everyone on the DL is a part time player, its called being on a rotation. He is another year older (we all are) but don't agree with past the age of being useful. Stephen may have said it, don't mean he's right. He thought the same about Ware and Ware helped Denver to not just a SB ring, but the #1 D in the league.

Freeney is no Ware but he would be more impactful than another journeyman or a guy like Gregory, who can't even get on the field.

 

[Derinyar]

Between the two I'd rather roll the dice on Dumervil then Freeney, even though I suspect that Dumervil will be much more expensive. The difference to me is 4 years of age. There is value to vets, but when they start getting too old they are quite likely to have rapid physical declines that leave them as semi functional shells of their former abilities. The history of 37-38 year old pass rushers isn't good. The 33 year old pass rusher isn't a great bet either, but that is a pretty big 4 years in sports. Of course there is a health question on Dumervil.

If you want Freeney because of soft factors, fine, but there's not a good case for him having much positional value left. 2015 was a very odd stat line, and I'm guessing was a bit fluky.

Personally I think I pass on both, unless there are injuries later in camp and you need a body with some ability to fill assignments. I still might go a little more toward upside as opposed to likely solid older players but then its at least a question.

 

[LocimusPrime]

 

[Deep_Freeze]

9ers will have to sign the real Elvis to have people want to see them play.

Why.

 

[coult44]

I don't want either.

Benson Mayowa had the same amount of sacks as Freeney and Dumervil last season...combined.

Last thing this team needs to do is bring in a stop gap player to limit the reps of our young guys. We aren't talking about premier pass rushers either...we are talking about older players past their prime.

The Stars are aligning (pun intended) if you and I agree 100%.

 

[coult44]

Agree, With the exception being that a lot of the same folks who say this also wanted a broken down 40, I mean 37 year old starting at QB last year.

 

[risco]

Agree, With the exception being that a lot of the same folks who say this also wanted a broken down 40, I mean 37 year old starting at QB last year.

That is so true- but one has to consider that a brokendown 37 year old starting QB is 95% better than the unknown. Now, I was not for a particular QB- I'm for what makes the team better!

 

[Chuck 54]

Just say no to all washed up veterans.
Even if they are better than what we have, just say no!
Signing a vet should be reserved for adding a super star in his prime (Haley, Deon).
Adding a veteran over a young guy, and limiting his development, should be for someone viewed as the piece that brings a championship, not a guy who maybe adds 5-7 sacks in a part time role.

No-No-No!