What would it take for you to trade Roy Williams?

[zrinkill]

I'd do RW for Ed Reed straight up

Thats Nasty

 

[Vinnie2u]

I'd trade him for Jessica Alba, Beyonce Knowles, a jacuzzi and 3 bottles of wine.

 

[Hailmary]

You guys are TOTALLY over rating RW.

He's a superstar at his position, but no GM is going to trade a franchise QB straight up for a safety (or some of the other names mentioned).

 

[Zippy Speedster]

LaDainian Tomlinson, straight up, tomorrow, lets do this. Too bad though Roy isn't THAT good. I'll throw in #18 this year along with him.

Tom Brady, another player of a select few I would consider. Again, Roy wouldn't be enough by himself but here i would also consider a Rd1 pick, this year or next.

Other then those two players I can't think of a single other one I would want over Roy. Now it would be an entirely different thing of he was getting up there in age but he's still young. One of the games premier players, in both skill and visabilty. Would hurt us more then just on the field getting rid of a character guy like that who the fans love.

So in essence, only the most complete player in the league or the best big-game winner currently in the league- other then that I'll just keep the best big-hitter in the league and be happy. I mean come on, only draft picks?? And I see some of you not even requiring #1's for this, just crazy, people so easily willing to give away our best homegrown player we have seen in the last 10 years for a couple of chance shots in the draft...

 

[neosapien23]

Realistically:

I would think that Roy Williams straight up for Ed Reed would be a good trade. I would also consider trading Roy Williams for the pick necessary in this draft (8th or 9th pick) to land either Vince Young or Jay Cutler.

Other possibilities would be trading for the pick necessary for AJ Hawk or Michael Huff and moving Davis to SS.

 

[Chuck 54]

I like Roy Williams, but I'd trade him for any top 5 pick in this year's draft.

It would be quite a step down, but we'd get by fine with Davis, Beriault, or someone else at SS.

I know I'll get attacked for this, but as great as Roy is, I still question taking him as high as we did...If Roy was sitting there at #3 or #4 this year, even knowing the player he would be in the NFL, I would never use that pick on him...thus I'd trade him for such a high pick.

Bush, Leinart, Ferguson, or Hawke....I'd make those deals, but I know I'm in the minority.

 

[bh32]

ed reed is leaps and bounds better than roy wiiliams.williams is so overated by you guys, its not even funny.

 

[dbair1967]

Let's just say I am curious. I like Roy as a player, but I wouldn't consider him untouchable. I tend to think the Cowboys faithful might overrate him a bit.

What would it take for you to trade him? I'd like some examples. Picks, players, whatever.

Or do you consider it too silly to even consider?

why would we want to trade Roy Williams?

you dont get better by trading your cornerstone players who league officials agree is one of the top players in the league at his position...we already suck at safety anyway, you think trading an all-pro there improves anything?

David

 

[dbair1967]

I'd do RW for Ed Reed straight up

I bet the Ravens would too, but fortunately for us you and your astute eye for talent ("Cunningham is better than Aikman") arnt making decisions at VR...

first, Reed is a full two yrs older than RW is...

in four years Reed has an edge in passes defenses and 10 more picks total, but Williams has more tackles, more sacks, more forced fumbles and one more int return for a TD....he is an incredibly intimidating hitter and has dislodged the ball from WR's and TE's mroe times than I can remember...there's also numerous times receivers have gator armed or pulled up on pass attempts because they feared the big hit coming...

Reed's had the benefit of playing on an ultra talented defense every yr in the league, and yet last yr he was pretty average...RW has had an extreme disadvantage from having to play the past two seasons with terrible FS's next to him, he also has the disadvantage of playing for a coordinator who yr after yr has his teams rank at the bottom of the league in turnovers and sacks

you can have Ed Reed...RW is a better all around player and has more upside than Reed does

David

 

[big dog cowboy]

you can have Ed Reed...RW is a better all around player and has more upside than Reed does

The misperception is that Reed is more than a little surperior than Roy. Perhaps it is the int's he gets I don't know.

BTW........ Aikman > Cunningham.........forever.

 

[TheSkaven]

I'd never trade him. He's one of the few untouchables (Roy, Witten, Ware and Newman) who we are building this team around. People who say Roy is overrated need to get a clue. The guy is a game changer and a play maker.

 

[Hostile]

Let's just say I am curious. I like Roy as a player, but I wouldn't consider him untouchable. I tend to think the Cowboys faithful might overrate him a bit.

What would it take for you to trade him? I'd like some examples. Picks, players, whatever.

Or do you consider it too silly to even consider?

Trading a big time impact player depends solely upon where the team is in regards to competing for it all.

If I'm the GM for Houston or San Francisco and a team makes me an offer for the only star player on the team, I give it serious consideration.

If however, I am the GM of a team liek Dallas, right on the cusp of a potential big season, I don't trade impact players. Even if in the minds of some the other player is better.

Let's look at the fictional Ed Reed for Roy scenario. Straight up I do not make that trade. Even if I considered Reed better. There is no guarantee he'd have any chemistry with the Cowboys. Roy does. Why screw that up? It isn't worth the gamble. If the team is struggling, yeah it might be worth the gamble. Emphasis on might.

An offer of Carson Palmer for Bledsoe is a no brainer. Lots more gray area when the player is young like Roy and considered one of the best in the league. Big difference.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If I'm the GM for Houston or San Francisco and a team makes me an offer for the only star player on the team, I give it serious consideration.

Mike Lynn......Minnesota Viqueens......Jimmy Johnson.........H. Walker......the stars only get in the right alignment once in a lifetime for one of those deals it seems.

 

[bbgun]

It's not unprecedented. Haley was traded at the height of his powers in '92. Of course, he was a pain in the *** in Frisco, which hastened his exit. Roy has no such reputation. Frankly, I don't think there's that much interest in Roy out there. He's primarily a run-stuffer who doesn't get picks or force many turnovers. Yes, he hits big, but usually after the catch has been made on him.

 

[SuspectCorner]

i don't think we wanna be trading our homegrown stars unless we get a herschel walker-type offer (i still love ed lynn for that one - thanks ed, wherever you are...).

these guys are the faces and personalities of our team. they're the special players that act as reminders that there are actual people inside those uniforms. they become like adopted family members.

for all roy's deficits in coverage (which i believe are overly bemoaned)... he is one of the most "catalytic" players in the NFL. no other safety can affect a game in the box the way roy can. no other safety can bring the load to bear that #31 can. even without being paired with a decent cover-safety... roy will prolly be a HOFer. he's that good.

wish we had more guys like roy.

 

[BigDFan5]

It's not unprecedented. Haley was traded at the height of his powers in '92. Of course, he was a pain in the *** in Frisco, which hastened his exit. Roy has no such reputation. Frankly, I don't think there's that much interest in Roy out there. He's primarily a run-stuffer who doesn't get picks or force many turnovers. Yes, he hits big, but usually after the catch has been made on him.

12 picks and 9 FF in 4 years

thats 21 turnovers

Reed had 26 not a huge difference

Roy had aklmost as many FF last season as Reed has in his career

 

[bbgun]

Roy had aklmost as many FF last season as Reed has in his career

they don't play the same position

 

[BigDFan5]

they don't play the same position

Name a SS better then and we will compare them

 

[Pokes28]

There are a ton of players I would trade Roy straight up for. He's a very good player, but I don't view him as a future Hall of Famer at this point. I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again, but he's not great enough to be untouchable in my mind. Heck, in my view, he's maybe the 4th best player on our defense right now and that is even close.

1. Newman - no contest
2. Ware - Insane ability that will only get better as he should no longer have to think about what he's doing as much and just play.
3. James - was great last season.
4. Roy Williams - Very good player.

I think there is a great chance that Henry could bounce back and be the player he was before he got injured. If he does, I put him above Roy. It is also possible for Canty and Spears to pass up Roy on my list. Simply put, Roy fits in, but he's not the straw that stirs the drink.

David Harrell - Pokes
dwh

 

[bbgun]

Name a SS better then and we will compare them

What's the point? The issue is Roy's approximate trade value, not whether he deserves to go to Hawaii every year.