What would the Cowboys get if they traded Zack Martin?

[Captain-Crash]

a hole on the right side that can't be fixed. he solidifies the whole right side for the younger guys.

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

If that were true he’d have been traded by now.

Not really. Not if Jerry doesn't want to trade him...

 

[CowboyFrog]

Not really. Not if Jerry doesn't want to trade him...

I dont think we could get what he is worth in a trade, they will come to an agreement before the season starts.

 

[coult44]

As for as I'm concerned D-Ware is a Cowboy. It wasn't like we were going to play him except in the SB and the odds for that was near zero.

I’m a huge D-Ware fan. and yes he will always be a Cowboy. But, when he left, I wasn’t cheering for him to win. His championship means nothing to me and didn’t do anything to solidify his career in my eyes.

 

[TheSport78]

I love how they’re willing to re-open negotiations with an average QB by paying him like a Top 5 QB and they’re playing hardball with their most consistent player over the past decade.

 

[Fmart322]

Hahahababahahahabaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kirk Cousins or 57 year old JJ Watt would have more trade value than soon to be 33 year old GUARD z. Martin.

How many 1st and 2nd rounders would you want Jerruh to trade for either of those guys (if watt was still playing).

Whatever you'd be willing to trade for Kirk Cousins to get him on the Cowboys, cur that in half, and that's what you'd get for Martin....if that.

Two 1sts (and a BARGAIN at that) .WOW....every "what would teams give us for (insert Cowboy player)" thread really brings out the dopes.

Duuuuhhhhhhhhhhh

Any person that has a Lakers, Yankees, Alabama and Cowboys picture as his thumbnail has zero right to laugh at anyone else for any reason. You are the definition of a frontrunner. I'm embarrassed for you.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I love how they’re willing to re-open negotiations with an average QB by paying him like a Top 5 QB and they’re playing hardball with their most consistent player over the past decade.

Im sorry but some of you really need to take an economics class to get the basics of supply and demand.. go down the list of payed QB's and show me all the elite QB's that have been payed..YOU wouldn't pay a QB you don't like, the NFL pays QB's that win games..because those QB's are hard to get-- supply and demand, pretty basic stuff.. now show me the RG market and make it the same.

 

[MyFairLady]

Piggy wants his retirement package. Let someone else give it to him.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Im sorry but some of you really need to take an economics class to get the basics of supply and demand.. go down the list of payed QB's and show me all the elite QB's that have been payed..YOU wouldn't pay a QB you don't like, the NFL pays QB's that win games..because those QB's are hard to get-- supply and demand, pretty basic stuff.. now show me the RG market and make it the same.

 

[Cowboyny]

I would just trade Lewis or Armstrong and give the money saved to Martin.

 

[Cowboyny]

The will restructure they are just negotiating at the moment, seriously niether side has much leverage nor time to F this up.

I understand both sides, Jerry cannot cave or every veteran will ask for a raise before the contract signed is over and Martin feeling underpaid. They have to somehow meet halfway, perhaps adding incentives to the current deal.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Yes.

People get caught up in the person of Zack Martin...and ignore the position he plays.

Of all the "starting" positions on any football team...if you were to rank them from from LEAST important up to MOST important....we'd all have QB at the top.

But what about the bottom? (Modern rules...and assuming ur not one of the few teams that still uses a roster spot on a fullback)

Kicker and Punter would be the bottom two in whichever order u deem fit.

Then....what....off-ball linebacker?
Then.... probably Guard is next. MAYBE running back (I'd rather spend a 1st rd pick on a guard than a rb).

So there u go. Tackles, centers, QBs, TEs, WRs, all spots on DLine, safeties, CBs, rush LBers, ALL more valuable in today's game than a guard.

Having a great guard like Martin....is kind of in the same ballpark as having a great punter. You want them....and you'd pay them if not for the salary cap....but the salary cap exists! Can't buy Superbowls any more like in the 90's and earlier....gotta earn them by smart team management now (and surprise surprise we've never even been to a SB once the playing field was leveled). Jerruh is right on his stance here.

 

[TheSport78]

Im sorry but some of you really need to take an economics class to get the basics of supply and demand.. go down the list of payed QB's and show me all the elite QB's that have been payed..YOU wouldn't pay a QB you don't like, the NFL pays QB's that win games..because those QB's are hard to get-- supply and demand, pretty basic stuff.. now show me the RG market and make it the same.

Dak isn't elite. I know supply and demand; I'm a college grad with real estate experience. I know what I see on Sundays with Dak, and you never pay players what they've done, but what you expect them to do in the future. Dak is a declining player who had his best year as a rookie. What don't you understand?

 

[CowboyFrog]

Dak isn't elite. I know supply and demand; I'm a college grad with real estate experience. I know what I see on Sundays with Dak, and you never pay players what they've done, but what you expect them to do in the future. Dak is a declining player who had his best year as a rookie. What don't you understand?

no Dak isn't and neither are the last 7 QB's to get massive contracts thats the point..if you sell real estate then you know when houses go up because of supply and demand that price increase hits every level of home not just the mansions.. generally the mansions get the smallest increase because the penny on the dollar.. so answer your question since you have the big college degree.. what dont you understand?

 

[Sydla]

Yes.

People get caught up in the person of Zack Martin...and ignore the position he plays.

Of all the "starting" positions on any football team...if you were to rank them from from LEAST important up to MOST important....we'd all have QB at the top.

But what about the bottom? (Modern rules...and assuming ur not one of the few teams that still uses a roster spot on a fullback)

Kicker and Punter would be the bottom two in whichever order u deem fit.

Then....what....off-ball linebacker?
Then.... probably Guard is next. MAYBE running back (I'd rather spend a 1st rd pick on a guard than a rb).

So there u go. Tackles, centers, QBs, TEs, WRs, all spots on DLine, safeties, CBs, rush LBers, ALL more valuable in today's game than a guard.

Having a great guard like Martin....is kind of in the same ballpark as having a great punter. You want them....and you'd pay them if not for the salary cap....but the salary cap exists! Can't buy Superbowls any more like in the 90's and earlier....gotta earn them by smart team management now (and surprise surprise we've never even been to a SB once the playing field was leveled). Jerruh is right on his stance here.

Here's the problem, you are ignoring how the Cowboys have set up the OL. You can't just say well C is more important than OG or RT is more important because what the Cowboys have been telling you is that to them, the RG is more important than either those two positions. They invested in Martin, they have not in the RT or OC position.

They understand that Martin makes both Biadasz and Steele better. You subtract Martin and guess what? You don't just have a question mark at RG........... you have a question at C and RT.

 

[TheSport78]

no Dak isn't and neither are the last 7 QB's to get massive contracts thats the point..if you sell real estate then you know when houses go up because of supply and demand that price increase hits every level of home not just the mansions.. generally the mansions get the smallest increase because the penny on the dollar.. so answer your question since you have the big college degree.. what dont you understand?

You aren’t understanding what those other QBs have over Rayne Dakota: age and player progression. Dak has PEAKED as a player and you’re going to pay him along the same lines as Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts and Trevor Lawrence? These are players just hitting their strides and Jerry is about to have a declining Dak account for nearly 25% of the cap next year. This isn’t only about supply and demand, but what Dak does and DOESN’T DESERVE.

 

[CowboyFrog]

You aren’t understanding what those other QBs have over Rayne Dakota: age and player progression. Dak has PEAKED as a player and you’re going to pay him along the same lines as Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts and Trevor Lawrence? These are players just hitting their strides and Jerry is about to have a declining Dak account for nearly 25% of the cap next year. This isn’t only about supply and demand, but what Dak does and DOESN’T DESERVE.

Well here is your need for the basics of economics again, Dak is viewed by NFL exec's as a top 10 QB, your opinion as a real estate agent wont be a factor in this... so again if Dak who has this backing him is a winning QB and will get market value.. again you have a college degree and dont understand a market. You may not like it and that means jack diddly in the QB market that you dont pay for... I sure hope you dont tell your clients in real estate they "Dont deserve" market value because you believe it when once again you dont set the market...

 

[TheSport78]

Well here is your need for the basics of economics again, Dak is viewed by NFL exec's as a top 10 QB, your opinion as a real estate agent wont be a factor in this... so again if Dak who has this backing him is a winning QB and will get market value.. again you have a college degree and dont understand a market. You may not like it and that means jack diddly in the QB market that you dont pay for... I sure hope you dont tell your clients in real estate they "Dont deserve" market value because you believe it when once again you dont set the market...

And I hope you don't treat other people as condescending as you do with me; that'd be unfortunate. Did I even say I was a real estate agent? I just do investing but I get the market I'm in; I didn't say it would be a factor in anything. That's just you making assumptions and you're the one who brought up the comparison with supply and demand.

Breaking news: NFL executives can be wrong and hence why there's so much turnover in the NFL from a business standpoint.

 

[BLEU3ASY]

Some hypotheticals shouldn’t be hypotheticals.. lol

 

[CowboyFrog]

And I hope you don't treat other people as condescending as you do with me; that'd be unfortunate. Did I even say I was a real estate agent? I just do investing but I get the market I'm in; I didn't say it would be a factor in anything. That's just you making assumptions and you're the one who brought up the comparison with supply and demand.

Breaking news: NFL executives can be wrong and hence why there's so much turnover in the NFL from a business standpoint.

They can be wrong, but they set the market, I have said this pretty clear. I'm not being condescending.. you said you were in real estate yes. Again the people who set the market value him, wether you agree or not.. thats a market. I may not like the price of refrigerators today but if i need one that works and the market is set.. guess what I'm going to pay to get one...You gave me reason's why YOU think he is not worth his market price.. thats not assuming anything thats what happened. At the end of the day the QB market set's Dak's price and I nor you have any say because we dont buy QB's...