What would the Cowboys get if they traded Zack Martin?

[Tussinman]

Those saying a second or third are probably in the ballpark, and it would need to be to a team that is close to a Super Bowl. For those saying guards aren't worth anything, the best way to disrupt a passer, even a great one like Brady, is pressure up the middle. There are some teams that would be interested, although the giving him a new contract part is going to make it that much harder to do if we really wanted to. I would expect Martin to come into camp before too long.

Agreed. He's not going to fetch a high enough cap haul for the cowboys to eat 28 million in dead cap they have on him. The team that trades for him has to deal with his age, his mileage, and him possibly wanting fringe left tackle money so not a huge incentive for them either (most of the teams that have that type of desire or cap have already made moves)

 

[beware_d-ware]

He'd bring in a first no problem.

Look at what a first-round guard would get you. A 1st round guard is going to suck for his first 1-2 years, because they almost invariably do. By year 4 or 5, you hope he's hitting his stride and becomes a Pro Bowl level player. Chris Lindstrom is your optimal scenario. Worst case scenario is like Chance Warmack. Your guard busts and never becomes any better than a fringe level player.

Martin is going to give you near guaranteed Pro Bowl level play this year. He does kind of become a year to year proposition after that, but the cliff isn't in sight yet. I'd guess he has 3 more quality years in the tank, and after year 4 or 5 he's probably off your roster.

Martin will cost more money than a rook, but he'll bring in far better results in the short and medium term than almost anyone you could pick. If you are a team with a 2-3 year horizon, like say the Jets, I'd way rather have Martin than a rookie RG. That rook probably wasn't going to play like a stud by then anyway. Martin is almost a guarantee to.

I would prefer to keep Martin on this squad, as I think he's worth more to the Cowboys than a 1st round pick at this point. You could make an argument for the famous Belichick approach, dump 'em a year too early rather than a year too late, but I don't think Martin is even two years from the cliff yet.

 

[Pass2Run]

Let me get this straight. Zack Martin thinks he might retire. Why would he retire if he isn't losing some of his talent? I'm not saying he sucks. Don't get me wrong. But it's not like he's plowing guys over Larry Allen style out there. He's solid, no doubt, and steady, no doubt.

But he's also under contract. He's also aging, like the rest of us. So there's that.

 

[Jimbo123]

Our O line is already one injury away from being mediocre and we're going to trade away the best guy on the O line? No thanks

Tyler is probably the best olineman at this point.

 

[rambo2]

Very interesting discussion in the video. Just follow the link. ​

What would the Cowboys get if they traded Zack Martin?​

By Shan & RJ and Bobby Belt, 105.3 The Fan

The Cowboys are digging their heels in with Zack Martin, as the disgruntled All-Pro guard remains away from the team.

Cowboys EVP Stephen Jones said Tuesday on the K&C Masterpiece on 105.3 The Fan that he has 'no idea' if Martin will miss regular season games. And he and his father, Jerry, appear to be unfazed by Martin not being in camp right now.

Hypothetically, if things got uglier between the two sides, should the Cowboys consider trading him, and if so, what could they get in return for him?

https://www.audacy.com/1053thefan/s...ld-the-cowboys-get-if-they-traded-zack-martin

They aren't trading Martin.

 

[quickccc]

I think that is not enough to TBH. best OG in football, now thats also why i dont think he will get traded.

I think you would have to take his age into consideration.

Regardless I don't think he will traded either .

It's purely a hypothetical question.

 

[manster4ever]

This isn’t even a remote concern. He will show up eventually for the game checks.

People forget Michael Irvin and Mark Stepnoski missed the entire camp in 1992.

Didn’t matter then, and it matters much less in Martins case.

You are correct IF JJ shuts his billionaire pie hole and doesn't piss Martin off

 

[SuperBowlz]

If a team suffers a catastrophic injury on the OL we could get a #1. Don't forget Martin could fill in at T also.

Not a chance. Many teams don't want to use a 1st on a rookie RG with a low cap number and only 21 years old. No way someone gives up a 1st or even a 2nd and have to also hand out a HUGE payday.

 

[SuperBowlz]

He'd bring in a first no problem.

Look at what a first-round guard would get you. A 1st round guard is going to suck for his first 1-2 years, because they almost invariably do. By year 4 or 5, you hope he's hitting his stride and becomes a Pro Bowl level player. Chris Lindstrom is your optimal scenario. Worst case scenario is like Chance Warmack. Your guard busts and never becomes any better than a fringe level player.

Martin is going to give you near guaranteed Pro Bowl level play this year. He does kind of become a year to year proposition after that, but the cliff isn't in sight yet. I'd guess he has 3 more quality years in the tank, and after year 4 or 5 he's probably off your roster.

Martin will cost more money than a rook, but he'll bring in far better results in the short and medium term than almost anyone you could pick. If you are a team with a 2-3 year horizon, like say the Jets, I'd way rather have Martin than a rookie RG. That rook probably wasn't going to play like a stud by then anyway. Martin is almost a guarantee to.

I would prefer to keep Martin on this squad, as I think he's worth more to the Cowboys than a 1st round pick at this point. You could make an argument for the famous Belichick approach, dump 'em a year too early rather than a year too late, but I don't think Martin is even two years from the cliff yet.

No way no how could Dallas even get a 2nd for a 33 year old guard who wants a monster deal. RG is considered the least important position on the OLine. Teams know Dallas is stuck as well. RG's usually don't go round one anyway. The age, the 20+ million a year makes a 1st and 2nd a pipe dream.

 

[beware_d-ware]

No way no how could Dallas even get a 2nd for a 33 year old guard who wants a monster deal. RG is considered the least important position on the OLine. Teams know Dallas is stuck as well. RG's usually don't go round one anyway. The age, the 20+ million a year makes a 1st and 2nd a pipe dream.

We've had 4 guards go in the 1st round in the last two years, so I don't see how it's not a 1st round position.

 

[JW82]

Between 7-10 losses.

 

[noshame]

Not a chance. Many teams don't want to use a 1st on a rookie RG with a low cap number and only 21 years old. No way someone gives up a 1st or even a 2nd and have to also hand out a HUGE payday.

Jerry or Stephen which are u?

 

[SuperBowlz]

We've had 4 guards go in the 1st round in the last two years, so I don't see how it's not a 1st round position.

Are they RT's? 4 isn't very many and most teams would never use a top pick on a Guard.

 

[CWR]

I imagine nowhere near enough to justify losing him, but after the Cooper deal I don't expect a lot back.

 

[mcmvp]

He'd bring in a first no problem.

Look at what a first-round guard would get you. A 1st round guard is going to suck for his first 1-2 years, because they almost invariably do. By year 4 or 5, you hope he's hitting his stride and becomes a Pro Bowl level player. Chris Lindstrom is your optimal scenario. Worst case scenario is like Chance Warmack. Your guard busts and never becomes any better than a fringe level player.

Martin is going to give you near guaranteed Pro Bowl level play this year. He does kind of become a year to year proposition after that, but the cliff isn't in sight yet. I'd guess he has 3 more quality years in the tank, and after year 4 or 5 he's probably off your roster.

Martin will cost more money than a rook, but he'll bring in far better results in the short and medium term than almost anyone you could pick. If you are a team with a 2-3 year horizon, like say the Jets, I'd way rather have Martin than a rookie RG. That rook probably wasn't going to play like a stud by then anyway. Martin is almost a guarantee to.

I would prefer to keep Martin on this squad, as I think he's worth more to the Cowboys than a 1st round pick at this point. You could make an argument for the famous Belichick approach, dump 'em a year too early rather than a year too late, but I don't think Martin is even two years from the cliff yet.

There is no scenario that returns a first round pick for Martin. I consider him a Hall of Fame player… It just is what it is.

It is not uncommon for fanbases to overrate their own players when trade value is concerned

 

[OmerV]

A weakened OL?

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

If a team suffers a catastrophic injury on the OL we could get a #1. Don't forget Martin could fill in at T also.

No we could not. Nobody...is giving a 1 OR a 2

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Honestly, he's worth 2 number 1s or a 1st and 2nd rd pick....and that's still a bargain for a team getting Zack Martin. You aren't finding a better player, anywhere.

Hahahababahahahabaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kirk Cousins or 57 year old JJ Watt would have more trade value than soon to be 33 year old GUARD z. Martin.

How many 1st and 2nd rounders would you want Jerruh to trade for either of those guys (if watt was still playing).

Whatever you'd be willing to trade for Kirk Cousins to get him on the Cowboys, cur that in half, and that's what you'd get for Martin....if that.

Two 1sts (and a BARGAIN at that) .WOW....every "what would teams give us for (insert Cowboy player)" thread really brings out the dopes.

Duuuuhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[KJJ]

Zack is still a great player but he’s going into his 10th season and is pushing 33. You might be able to get a 3rd and a 5th for him, but he’s worth a lot more to the Cowboys than that. One of the concerns with the team is the OL and he’s our best player on the OL, so they’re not about to trade him.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

He'd bring in a first no problem.

Look at what a first-round guard would get you. A 1st round guard is going to suck for his first 1-2 years, because they almost invariably do. By year 4 or 5, you hope he's hitting his stride and becomes a Pro Bowl level player. Chris Lindstrom is your optimal scenario. Worst case scenario is like Chance Warmack. Your guard busts and never becomes any better than a fringe level player.

Martin is going to give you near guaranteed Pro Bowl level play this year. He does kind of become a year to year proposition after that, but the cliff isn't in sight yet. I'd guess he has 3 more quality years in the tank, and after year 4 or 5 he's probably off your roster.

Martin will cost more money than a rook, but he'll bring in far better results in the short and medium term than almost anyone you could pick. If you are a team with a 2-3 year horizon, like say the Jets, I'd way rather have Martin than a rookie RG. That rook probably wasn't going to play like a stud by then anyway. Martin is almost a guarantee to.

I would prefer to keep Martin on this squad, as I think he's worth more to the Cowboys than a 1st round pick at this point. You could make an argument for the famous Belichick approach, dump 'em a year too early rather than a year too late, but I don't think Martin is even two years from the cliff yet.

When is the last time ANY guard was traded for a 1st round pick? When is the last time a guard, getting ready to turn 33....was traded for ANYTHING.

We all like the cowboys....but let's not say dumb things. If JERRY all of a sudden gave our 1st round pick up next year for a 28 year old running back (equivalent to a 33 yr old guard) or a 40 year old QB (also an equivalent) you would go ballistic.