What's the minimum you'd take for Romo?

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A second and a conditional 4th to move to a third.
Plus get contract off books for the most part.
 

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id like to think we are more concerned with getting romo where he would want to br.
 

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Trades will only benefit Dallas, not Romo. He's better off being a free agent and will probably do everything in his power to become one...
 

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You do whatever Romo wants. If he wants to be released to pick his own team then that's what you do.

There are times when you need to show some class. Your 10 year franchise QB who gave you everything you have is one of those times.

Class people.
Couldn't agree more . Romo should be able to pick his destination . Lucky to get a 4th since there are 2 teams to choose from and I'm fine with that. Romo gave us all he had and deserves a spot in the Ring of Honor and to be treated with respect .
 

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I accept that we may not get a first round pick out of him but I think the minimum I'd take is a second plus at least a fourth but I really want a 2+3rd minimum.
What say you?
That's probably high. His age and health will drive down any offer. It's worth taking less to get rid of his contract anyway.
 

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You do whatever Romo wants. If he wants to be released to pick his own team then that's what you do.

There are times when you need to show some class. Your 10 year franchise QB who gave you everything you have is one of those times.

Class people.

Totally disagree. I love Romo but he didn't give us enough to warrant what you say. This team is built to compete for multiple Super Bowls. The high pick we get for Romo could go a long way to building an even more dominant team. No way in hell I just release him. It will only save $5 million to release him next year. I keep him for that and wait for a situation like philly getting a 1st for Bradford. Some qb will get hurt in preseason. It's now time for Romo to actually give us something of value which is a nice draft pick in return for letting him go somewhere and play.
 

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Good position to be in. Would not take anything lower than a 2nd rounder 2017. Unless we were offered a 3rd round pick is if we get one for 2017 and 2018.
 

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Totally disagree. I love Romo but he didn't give us enough to warrant what you say. This team is built to compete for multiple Super Bowls. The high pick we get for Romo could go a long way to building an even more dominant team. No way in hell I just release him. It will only save $5 million to release him next year. I keep him for that and wait for a situation like philly getting a 1st for Bradford. Some qb will get hurt in preseason. It's now time for Romo to actually give us something of value which is a nice draft pick in return for letting him go somewhere and play.
He gave us everything he had.
Your assuming he would automatically give us a high pick. Also your assuming this high pick would be the difference in us getting multiple superbowls and us not making it. I don't think it works like that.
You speak of the cap savings but don't mention that trading him vs releasing him doesn't change the cap number enough to make it a factor.
You say you love Romo but then say "it's time for Romo to actually give us something of value which is a nice draft pick in return for letting him go somewhere and play". Doesn't sound like a fan who appreciates Romo.

This lack of loyalty and class will be felt when you are hoping your next free agent or potential free agent will sign with you and leave a few dollars on the table. Players see Romo get screwed over and they will put themselves in his shoes when negotiating with you. Players like Lael Collins appreciate Jerry for the human he is and may not feel the same when they realize he turned into a heartless person.

I believe treating people the respect, kindness, and class pays off in the end. You just want a draft pick I guess.

We can agree to disagree.
 

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That's probably high. His age and health will drive down any offer. It's worth taking less to get rid of his contract anyway.
I would agree but from what I'm reading trading him doesn't clear his salary off our cap til year after next. To clear the cap room we will have to renegotiate his contract and I would presume that would have to be part of the trade.....? If we could clear his salary off completely I would settle for a low second or third round pick because we could easily use that cap space to acquire two defensive players although we are going to need to resign some folks. Personally I desperately want Leary back.
 

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We need a team as dumb as the Vikings. I personally would not trade Romo for no more than a 1st. If Bradford can garner a first (who by the way is as injury prone as Romo and is not even close to Romo skill set) than Romo surely can get one. Jones needs to put his personal feelings aside and do what is best for the team. This is how the Pats have been good for a long time. It is the nature of the business.
 

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He gave us everything he had.
Your assuming he would automatically give us a high pick. Also your assuming this high pick would be the difference in us getting multiple superbowls and us not making it. I don't think it works like that.
You speak of the cap savings but don't mention that trading him vs releasing him doesn't change the cap number enough to make it a factor.
You say you love Romo but then say "it's time for Romo to actually give us something of value which is a nice draft pick in return for letting him go somewhere and play". Doesn't sound like a fan who appreciates Romo.

This lack of loyalty and class will be felt when you are hoping your next free agent or potential free agent will sign with you and leave a few dollars on the table. Players see Romo get screwed over and they will put themselves in his shoes when negotiating with you. Players like Lael Collins appreciate Jerry for the human he is and may not feel the same when they realize he turned into a heartless person.

I believe treating people the respect, kindness, and class pays off in the end. You just want a draft pick I guess.

We can agree to disagree.
He did, indeed give us everything he had. Endured multiple broken bones, played with a punctured lung (and won), endured years with horrid offensive lines and mediocre teams,and has never been anything but class (both on and off the field) in his time with this organization. If I were Jerry, I would sit him down and ask him to prioritize a list of teams he would like to play for. I would then let him know that I would first attempt to get a draft pick and/or player in return from one of those teams, but if that did not come through in a reasonable time, then I would release him to let him work a deal of his own. If Tony was not down with that scenario for some reason, I would then grant him he release...I think he deserves every consideration to be placed in the best possible scenario to finish his career (as long as it doesn't involve another NFC East team...which I don't think would be the case).
 

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He gave us everything he had.
Your assuming he would automatically give us a high pick. Also your assuming this high pick would be the difference in us getting multiple superbowls and us not making it. I don't think it works like that.
You speak of the cap savings but don't mention that trading him vs releasing him doesn't change the cap number enough to make it a factor.
You say you love Romo but then say "it's time for Romo to actually give us something of value which is a nice draft pick in return for letting him go somewhere and play". Doesn't sound like a fan who appreciates Romo.

This lack of loyalty and class will be felt when you are hoping your next free agent or potential free agent will sign with you and leave a few dollars on the table. Players see Romo get screwed over and they will put themselves in his shoes when negotiating with you. Players like Lael Collins appreciate Jerry for the human he is and may not feel the same when they realize he turned into a heartless person.

I believe treating people the respect, kindness, and class pays off in the end. You just want a draft pick I guess.

We can agree to disagree.

The team has done plenty of giving players goodwill in the past. We are on the verge of building a potential dynasty again. Getting a good pick for Romo is a no brainier and could go a long way to pushing the team over the top. That is my point. If Romo is cut, they save $5 million in cap dollars. I would find a way to hold onto him until someone is willing to offer a high pick. It may not be realistic but it's my opinion. I do like Romo although I am a big critic and take issue with fans who present him as some savior who did something extraordinary for the franchise. He lifted us out of the 5-11 days and gave us hope. He greatly outplayed his status and made it fun to watch Cowboys games again and I love him for that but in the end he was a letdown. His entire era was full of big expectation and promise only to result in massive failures time and time again. Not all on him but much of it was. For that I say get what you can for him and quit worrying about his feelings. It's a business and if he can bring back a pick, go get it. If not, find a way to free up the extra $5 million and have the best backup qb in history for one more year. I know Jones likes Romo and probably will not take this path, mainly because he won't pay a backup QB $14 million in real money, but it is what I would like to see done.
 

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The team has done plenty of giving players goodwill in the past. We are on the verge of building a potential dynasty again. Getting a good pick for Romo is a no brainier and could go a long way to pushing the team over the top. That is my point. If Romo is cut, they save $5 million in cap dollars. I would find a way to hold onto him until someone is willing to offer a high pick. It may not be realistic but it's my opinion. I do like Romo although I am a big critic and take issue with fans who present him as some savior who did something extraordinary for the franchise. He lifted us out of the 5-11 days and gave us hope. He greatly outplayed his status and made it fun to watch Cowboys games again and I love him for that but in the end he was a letdown. His entire era was full of big expectation and promise only to result in massive failures time and time again. Not all on him but much of it was. For that I say get what you can for him and quit worrying about his feelings. It's a business and if he can bring back a pick, go get it. If not, find a way to free up the extra $5 million and have the best backup qb in history for one more year. I know Jones likes Romo and probably will not take this path, mainly because he won't pay a backup QB $14 million in real money, but it is what I would like to see done.
How can you, on one hand, say that he "didn't give us enough" to warrant special consideration, but then on the other hand say that he would land us a good pick? I mean, if he wasn't that good, then why would anyone give much at all for him?
 

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He did, indeed give us everything he had. Endured multiple broken bones, played with a punctured lung (and won), endured years with horrid offensive lines and mediocre teams,and has never been anything but class (both on and off the field) in his time with this organization. If I were Jerry, I would sit him down and ask him to prioritize a list of teams he would like to play for. I would then let him know that I would first attempt to get a draft pick and/or player in return from one of those teams, but if that did not come through in a reasonable time, then I would release him to let him work a deal of his own. If Tony was not down with that scenario for some reason, I would then grant him he release...I think he deserves every consideration to be placed in the best possible scenario to finish his career (as long as it doesn't involve another NFC East team...which I don't think would be the case).

That would be stupid. Five minutes after that meeting, his agent will have informed all 31 other teams that Dallas will eventually release Romo and not to seek a trade. He will then open up secret contract negotiations with the few teams on Romo's wishlist that express interest. If anything, you hint that you are willing to keep him another year as insurance hoping that Romo will expand his list of teams making a trade more likely. You don't show anyone your cards in these situations.
 

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That would be stupid. Five minutes after that meeting, his agent will have informed all 31 other teams that Dallas will eventually release Romo and not to seek a trade. He will then open up secret contract negotiations with the few teams on Romo's wishlist that express interest. If anything, you hint that you are willing to keep him another year as insurance hoping that Romo will expand his list of teams making a trade more likely. You don't show anyone your cards in these situations.
I don't share your opinion. In many other owner/player relationships, I would agree with you, but I think you underestimate JJ's relationship with TR (and the agent works for TR, not the other way around). If you absorbed what I posted, I was saying that it would not be a drawn out process. I think Tony would probably be willing to work with JJ. Don't know that for sure, but I think he would. JMO.
 

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How can you, on one hand, say that he "didn't give us enough" to warrant special consideration, but then on the other hand say that he would land us a good pick? I mean, if he wasn't that good, then why would anyone give much at all for him?

He's a fine qb that I think many teams would love to have. I just personally don't think he will ever get you far in the playoffs unless maybe you have a defense that only gives up 10 points a game. Now that Dak is here, I have no problem with the Romo era being over and letting some other team be mesmerized by the numbers only to get their hopes crushed in December and January. If Bradford can fetch a 1st+, then surely Romo can bring something of decent value. His special consideration goes out the window with me based on how close the team may be to building a new dynasty and the help a nice pick he could fetch will bring to that end. Look around the league and no one is truely dominant. Brady won't play forever and if you build a strong D to go with our O, we will be in the hunt for a long long time.
 

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saw a recent article on BSPN (I know consider the source right) that claimed to quote some NFL exec saying that Romo should only fetch a mid round pick in an offseason trade because he's old and broken. This made me think that I'd prefer to keep him if that's the case since a good backup is hard to find. He'd have to take a large pay cut which he may not agree to but a single midround pick just seems way too low to me.
I accept that we may not get a first round pick out of him but I think the minimum I'd take is a second plus at least a fourth but I really want a 2+3rd minimum.
What say you?
They can't pay a backup QB 14M so in reality they'll have to take what they can get.

If Sam Bradford can fetch a 1st round pick, then anything is possible.
 

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I don't share your opinion. In many other owner/player relationships, I would agree with you, but I think you underestimate JJ's relationship with TR (and the agent works for TR, not the other way around). If you absorbed what I posted, I was saying that it would not be a drawn out process. I think Tony would probably be willing to work with JJ. Don't know that for sure, but I think he would. JMO.

I know they have a good relationship, but Romo isn't going to sit idly by and risk being traded to the Browns when he can see a clear path to being released and signed by a contender with a good defense. He will take any step necessary to keep that from happening.
 
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