CFZ When Dak and Amari Played Together

TheMarathonContinues

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No. You’re not going to move the goalposts now.

You said Cooper “sucked” in big games while giving Lamb a pass for the same numbers.

Money wasn’t mentioned.

Double standard.
I did not give Lamb the pass I said he stepped it up this year. I don’t get what so hard to understand about this. You even tried to combine his stats to make them look better lol.
 

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The amari cooper that arrived was not the same version that was traded. Few understand this.
He was exactly the same version.

His numbers from his first season with the Browns is practically a carbon copy of his first full season with the Cowboys.

2019 - 79 REC, 1189 YDS, 8 TD's

2022 - 78 REC, 1160 YDS, 9 TD's
 

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Prior to the 2018 trade for Amari Cooper midway through the season, Dak Prescott's QB rating was 87.4 and the Cowboys record was 3-4. The Cowboys would use Amari to go on a 7-2 run to end up 10-6.

Dak and Amari played in 43 regular season games together. Dak has a combined passer rating of 103.5 in those games. If that were his career number then he would be the 3rd highest rated QB in NFL history behind only Mahomes and one tenth of a point behind Aaron Rodgers.

He completed 68% of his passes with a TD/INT ratio of 3.3 to 1.

Last season, Dak's passer rating was 91.1, almost down to the passer rating he had in the first half of the 2018 season prior to Amari's arrival.

This past season, Dak's TD/INT ratio was 1.5 to 1, cut by more than half from where it was when Amari was a Cowboy.

I'm not saying that this was the only factor in Dak's drop in efficiency and I realize that passer ratings aren't the "tell all" stat when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks.

However, should this information be ignored, disregarded?

Jerry has a history of replacing highly productive players that reach free agency with minimal value draft picks and free agents. His has never been successful, in fact, it is typically the opposite and results in a complete disaster.

Jerry thought he could replace the record holder for most rushing yards in a season, DeMarco Murray with a big mouth, no talent Joseph Randle. He thought he could replace Amari with a rookie 3rd round pick and low-production oft injured free agent.

Now Zeke is gone and, yes, I agree, his productivity had declined sharply. However, do the Cowboys even have another RB capable of producing Zeke's numbers from last season? just as it was in Amari's case, Jerry's solution is a low draft pick and a no-name veteran.

At this point how much trust has this franchise's management earned?
They knew these numbers when they traded Amari. Let that sink in. Go check the QBR. It will make you wanna throw up.
 

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He was exactly the same version.

His numbers from his first season with the Browns is practically a carbon copy of his first full season with the Cowboys.

2019 - 79 REC, 1189 YDS, 8 TD's

2022 - 78 REC, 1160 YDS, 9 TD's
Who was throwing to him in 2022? End of story.
 

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I did not give Lamb the pass I said he stepped it up this year. I don’t get what so hard to understand about this. You even tried to combine his stats to make them look better lol.
It’s not hard to understand at all. You’re being hypocritical. It’s quite easy to see.
 

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It’s not hard to understand at all. You’re being hypocritical. It’s quite easy to see.
Ok both Lamb and Cooper suck in big moments. You got it.


You’re gonna reply with im being hypocritical stop of course. Didn’t know mods were into trolling but everybody get ya troll on!
 

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Cooks numbers are similar to Coopers over the last 3 seasons.

Ronald Jones 4.7 YPC the last 3 seasons
Zeke 4.02 the last 3 seasons
I was going to mention Cooks. He’s a professional NFL WR just like Coop. That will help a lot.
 

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Ok both Lamb and Cooper suck in big moments. You got it.
If you’re going to claim it about one, it applies for another guy with virtually the same numbers. Otherwise it’s a hypocritical double standard.
You’re gonna reply with im being hypocritical stop of course. Didn’t know mods were into trolling but everybody get ya troll on!
It’s not trolling whatsoever when I’m pointing out the truth in your own comments. Sorry if the truth hurts, but that’s exactly what you were doing.
 

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I was going to mention Cooks. He’s a professional NFL WR just like Coop. That will help a lot.
I think Cooks could potentially be more of a help in that area. Cooper did his part and did the work. And he didn’t act up when he felt he wasn’t involved enough as other receivers did. But he also wasn’t a huge leader either. On first impression, Cooks seems to have more leadership characteristics.
 

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If you’re going to claim it about one, it applies for another guy with virtually the same numbers. Otherwise it’s a hypocritical double standard.

It’s not trolling whatsoever when I’m pointing out the truth in your own comments. Sorry if the truth hurts, but that’s exactly what you were doing.
Ok they both suck. Fair enough.
 

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I think Cooks could potentially be more of a help in that area. Cooper did his part and did the work. And he didn’t act up when he felt he wasn’t involved enough as other receivers did. But he also wasn’t a huge leader either. On first impression, Cooks seems to have more leadership characteristics.
This is spot on.
 

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This is spot on.

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No, I attack the numbers advantage.
Well you’d be the only OC in the nfl who never ran the football because teams would simply move players up to put you on a pass play and then drop them into coverage
 

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Well you’d be the only OC in the nfl who never ran the football because teams would simply move players up to put you on a pass play and then drop them into coverage
What? That's not how it works. You can't just have safeties line up in the box and then cover the deep third on every play. If you do that, you would have to have outside corners play off coverage to protect the sidelines that safeties couldn't get to, and then you're giving up easy yards underneath on every play.

Prolific, modern offenses BEG defenses to bring more bodies into the box.
 

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What? That's not how it works. You can't just have safeties line up in the box and then cover the deep third on every play. If you do that, you would have to have outside corners play off coverage to protect the sidelines that safeties couldn't get to, and then you're giving up easy yards underneath on every play.

Prolific, modern offenses BEG defenses to bring more bodies into the box.
You just slide the LB’s up
Steeler and ravens do it all the time to fake the blitz. We even do it sonetimes. Then you have 7 up front
 

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I wouldn't have traded Amari for what they did but the biggest problem with Dak's numbers is and has always been the offensive philosophy. They never give the QB advantageous throwing opportunities because they are obsessed with trying to run the football. When you are throwing on obvious passing situations, you are going to have turnovers, regardless of who the WRs are.

The good offense are on the right, and then there's Dallas. Dak has been bailing this dumb offense out for years.

I bet if there is a chart of running the SAME EXACT running play on 1st down the Cowboys would be first by a landslide...
 
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