When Dez is one on one and deep

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Dak is too worried about the interception in my opinion. It took Romo a few years to truly trust Dez in one on one situations too. Tony did eventually learn exactly where Dez likes the ball. Dak still has to learn that.

Absolutely. He is skittish about turning it over and he has to get over it. All great QB's turn it over sometimes. Go for it Dak...I don't agree with Dez pouting and *****ing on the sideline but I do understand his frustration.
 

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Our problems still aren't on offense. We've got a championship quality offense.
 

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Absolutely. He is skittish about turning it over and he has to get over it. All great QB's turn it over sometimes. Go for it Dak...I don't agree with Dez pouting and *****ing on the sideline but I do understand his frustration.

I don't. You don't see other Cowboys players acting like that. He acts like a buffoon.
 

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My dad sent me this YouTube video the other day of every Romo to TO TD as a stroll down memory lane and I finished the video with 2 conclusions:

Romo > Dak
TO > Dez


Funny they never made it to the Super Bowl, or let's see, not the NFC championship games, what exactly did they accomplish?
 

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I’m pretty sure it has to do with Dez getting more attention/facing #1 CBs.
Typically, the WR1 has a higher passer rating on his targets than his teammates do on theirs.

Lions 2011-13
Johnson 103.0
others 82.5

Broncos 2012-14
Thomas 112.5
others 101.8

Giants 2014-16
Beckham 100.3
others 70.5

Falcons 2014-16
Jones 102.4
others 81.6

Steelers 2014-16
Brown 106.3
others 93.3
 

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Maybe because Dez runs terrible routes that put Dak in a no win situation when trying to get him the ball. Dez allows the corners to shield him near the sidelines. His route running is very sloppy.

Maybe so but the ball never even seems to be within his catch radius.
 

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Right. Prescott's greatest strength is also a hindrance. He avoids mistakes at the cost of making plays. He's not looking to throw the ball into tight coverage and Dez has trouble separating. So do the math.

Problem is we are paying that guy 15 million dollars a year to make those plays. We either gotta give him a chance or get his salary outta here.
 

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Why do our QBs never give him a chance on the ball? All I ever here about is Dezs great ball skills to go along with his jumping ability and all the time the ball is thrown 5 yards out of bounds.


I think if the ball is thrown to Dez 2 out of 3 times it is an incompletion. I'm not saying if that is good or bad. I will leave each person to decide that for himself or herself as the case may be.
 

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Problem is we are paying that guy 15 million dollars a year to make those plays. We either gotta give him a chance or get his salary outta here.

Or get a new quarterback. Preferably someone with talent.
 

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Its a different era now. Brady’s first 5 years were over 12 years ago. Its a passing league now
You can't really cry about a lack of passing yards, citing that it's currently a passing era, without accepting that we made a decision (spending multiple 1st rounders on run blockers and spending a top 5 pick on a RB) that necessarily commits us to running more and passing less than modern conventional wisdom dictates for most teams. What's the point of spending a top 5 pick on a RB in an era when running backs grow on trees unless you're going to double-down on being run-heavy?

To cry about our lack of gaudy passing yards is to say this team would be better off if we called less running plays, ran a more up-tempo offense instead of controlling the clock, and stuck our defense on the field more often. And literally none of those would benefit us whatsoever. All of them are stupid, stupid ideas that make us easier to beat.

Our devotion of very valuable resources to the running game may be anachronistic, but running is what works best for our team as it's presently built.
 

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It actually is.


What elite passer do you know that consistently throws less than 4000 yards a season?
I think more passing yards just doesn't equal a harder offense or harder team to face. You're asking us to grant you the premise that passing yards are an indication of elite status. But they aren't. Any halfway lively arm with enough passing plays or garbage time can post HUGE yards. The TD-to-INT ratio stat is the best indicator of quality.

We could easily, just by giving in to our worst, most cutesy pass-happy urges, turn our passing game into one that piles up more yards. But I fear it would only make us easier to beat. Like what's happened with the Seahawks.

Russell Wilson averaged in the low 3000's for his first three seasons. And Seattle was 11-5, 13-3, 12-4, making Super Bowls. Pretty great results, and that was before their division turned to trash when the 49ers tanked. They were very hard to beat. They were much more feared back then.

Then they flipped the switch and turned into a 4000+ yard passing offense, and they've taken a step back as a team that tops out at 10 wins and doesn't make Super Bowls.

Sure, they're harder to match up against in the passing game now. But it's come at the expense of clock management, physicality, and a defensive mindset.
 

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So you are saying in double coverage he'll be basically shut down?

He'll be shut down by either single or double coverage if the CBs in question are good enough. Separation just isn't Dez's forte. What he IS good about is outfighting them for the ball if his positioning is adequate. Problem is, Dak is adverse to throwing his way if and when Dez's separation or positioning isn't forthcoming. In the end, it simply translates to less targets for Dez.
 
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I don't necessarily believe all struggles are on Dez. I think it takes young/talented/smart QBs a couple years before they can perform real surgery on a defense.

I'm not blaming it all on Dak, but I don't believe he's breaking down defenses before the play as well as Romo had been and I think that correlates to Dez not being fed properly
 

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Maybe so but the ball never even seems to be within his catch radius.

Even when passes are within his catch radius, the CBs tracking him are routinely right there with him. Lack of separation is the problem.
 
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I don't necessarily believe all struggles are on Dez. I think it takes young/talented/smart QBs a couple years before they can perform real surgery on a defense.

I'm not blaming it all on Dak, but I don't believe he's breaking down defenses before the play as well as Romo had been and I think that correlates to Dez not being fed properly

True but let's also consider that Romo wasn't always as good early in his career as he was later on. Dak is still in his infancy as a QB right now. Dak could do considerably better with a group of WRs with better separation skills. I'm unsure what you mean about Dak being "fed" properly, though. What's up with that?
 
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