When will Terry Glenn be back???

[iceberg]

You don't Terry supplanting Sam Hurd if he's healthy? Did you guys forget who Terry Glenn is?

let me see...

he's the guy who's not played a down all year long due to injury, right?
hmmm...he's the guy where the cowboys site itself had report up briefly saying he was done for the year - pulled in short order and suddenly jones requoted.
and he's the one who never seems to be healthy w/o parcells on him
he's the one doing rehab just to run again, right? much less play football, correct?

all that adds up to me that i don't want to put him into a successful mix and count on seeing him as he used to be and not expect to insert an older, injury prone player at the end of his career.

i'm thankful we had glenn for as long as we did - yes. he was a parcells steal. but if we're going into our 1st playoff game and he's had limited reps w/romo and not in "football" shape, why?

 

[theogt]

let me see...

he's the guy who's not played a down all year long due to injury, right?
hmmm...he's the guy where the cowboys site itself had report up briefly saying he was done for the year - pulled in short order and suddenly jones requoted.
and he's the one who never seems to be healthy w/o parcells on him
he's the one doing rehab just to run again, right? much less play football, correct?

all that adds up to me that i don't want to put him into a successful mix and count on seeing him as he used to be and not expect to insert an older, injury prone player at the end of his career.

i'm thankful we had glenn for as long as we did - yes. he was a parcells steal. but if we're going into our 1st playoff game and he's had limited reps w/romo and not in "football" shape, why?

Because even with just one game and very few reps he's still better than Hurd or Austin. This really shouldn't be up for debate.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

This has got to be the biggest nonstory of the Cowboys' season, IMHO.

Glenn skipping the microfracture surgery was a bad move on his part, and his lengthy recovery time from the scope work only confirms it...IF he's able to make it back sometime this season, it won't be enough to make the kind of impact that would've justified missing the majority (If not the entire regular season) of the season when he would've doing the same thing with the microfracture surgery.

And again, even if he does make it back, how much of a factor is he really going to be after not having played in about a year now?

I truly think his LONG recovery was the plan...ditto for Marvin Harrison...when the games count Marvin Harrison will play...ditto for Glenn

 

[Givincer]

Because even with just one game and very few reps he's still better than Hurd or Austin. This really shouldn't be up for debate.

I'm quite shocked at the number of people who think it is...

 

[iceberg]

Because even with just one game and very few reps he's still better than Hurd or Austin. This really shouldn't be up for debate.

but oddly enough it is - that ok with you?

i hate it when i miss debate approved topic memo's.

 

[theogt]

but oddly enough it is - that ok with you?

i hate it when i miss debate approved topic memo's.

I guess you're the only one that can approve thread topics, Mr. Anti-McFadden Threads.

 

[iceberg]

I'm quite shocked at the number of people who think it is...

it's taken a long time for our OL to "gel" - now we have and we're seeing some good things.

depending on when glenn "comes back" yes, it could be a "bad" thing. if we go into our 1st playoff game and that's his return, how much can he realistically contribute?

decoy is one thing if that's what you're looking for. but to be the glenn of a few years ago is pushing it to me. if he comes back and everything is just fine - great. i was wrong. been there before.

 

[iceberg]

I guess you're the only one that can approve thread topics, Mr. Anti-McFadden Threads.

well now that we're straight there, go check on the doozers. i think they're building out in the wrong direction.

 

[superpunk]

I guess you're the only one that can approve thread topics, Mr. Anti-McFadden Threads.

 

[Dough Boy]

I'm quite shocked at the number of people who think it is...

I agree, it should not be a debate.

What's the downside? By Glenn being on the roster the opening week, his salary is guaranteed. If he gets hurt the first play of the game, Patrick Crayton has gone a whole season as starter. Glenn's presence on the field will open up lanes for Crayton and Witten underneath. I can not really see a downside.

Glenn at 75% is better than Hurd at 100%. That is no knock on Glenn. We've had so much success with Glenn out; I think we have forgotten how good he is. Simply put, Glenn is a playmaker. He is a difference maker. Hurd is JAG.

The point I like about Dallas most: Going into the playoffs (if Glenn is available) what team has the greatest chance of improving. Glenn will basically change the way D' Coordinators play us. They will have to go back to last year's Offensive, to get an idea. Guess what, it will not be too revealing. We have a new O' Coordinator that likes to push the ball down the field. A healthy Glenn, gives us as many weapons as the Pat's. If you can get Glenn, Witten, TO, Crayton and Austin on the field at the same time, you will present problems for any Def. Even if you sub Austin for Barber, imagine the running lanes. With Glenn and TO on the field at the same time, you have to play a 2 safety high look. Barber will see more 7 man fronts. Given our O’Line play, I will take that.

 

[Idgit]

Because even with just one game and very few reps he's still better than Hurd or Austin. This really shouldn't be up for debate.

It's *not* up for intelligent debate.

If he's back and healthy, the more interesting question is who's our best #1 WR as opposed to can Glenn keep Sam 'the Bird' Hurd off the field.

 

[iceberg]

well since wade just said there's no immediate information on glenn, *when* he may come back *is* an issue.

 

[Idgit]

well since wade just said there's no immediate information on glenn, *when* he may come back *is* an issue.

If he's not back before the Superbowl, I say don't play him at all this year.

 

[iceberg]

If he's not back before the Superbowl, I say don't play him at all this year.

so if he comes back FOR the superbowl, all are ok with him playing w/o taking a snap any other game in the year?

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

so if he comes back FOR the superbowl, all are ok with him playing w/o taking a snap any other game in the year?

I'm not....he is a speed WR. He has to get used to carrying his pads. He has to get his timing with Romo down. He needs to play the last 2 - 3 games of the season to be more than a decoy. Especially since he does not play Special Teams. I would think we would carry 5 WRs to the game and not dress a DL. We have enough DL that can play inside and outside. Probably a guy like Bowen would have to sit.

 

[iceberg]

I'm not....he is a speed WR. He has to get used to carrying his pads. He has to get his timing with Romo down. He needs to play the last 2 - 3 games of the season to be more than a decoy. Especially since he does not play Special Teams. I would think we would carry 5 WRs to the game and not dress a DL. We have enough DL that can play inside and outside. Probably a guy like Bowen would have to sit.

and this is much of my point as well. it takes time to get in rythem with the qb, and the offense. get used to "game shape" and so forth.

 

[Idgit]

so if he comes back FOR the superbowl, all are ok with him playing w/o taking a snap any other game in the year?

Actually, I do see your point, so I shouldn't just avoid it. The assumption has to be that TG won't see the field unless in the best determination of the training staff and team doctors he is healthy. From everything said publicly by our HC and front office re: TG to-date, we're taking it very slow for a reason. It's certainly possible our training staff will make a mistake, but there's not enough data available to fans to make a better-informed decision.

I have zero concerns about his abilities to play well after a long layoff. He's a smart player with phenomenal coordination and concentration. The other team has to respect him even if he's not 100% and his presence alone will change the coverages we see. It's not like the Flutie/Rob Johnson debate Wade had in Buffalo. This is Glenn/Stanback we're probably talking about here.

 

[Idgit]

I'm not....he is a speed WR. He has to get used to carrying his pads. He has to get his timing with Romo down. He needs to play the last 2 - 3 games of the season to be more than a decoy. Especially since he does not play Special Teams. I would think we would carry 5 WRs to the game and not dress a DL. We have enough DL that can play inside and outside. Probably a guy like Bowen would have to sit.

This takes a lot less time with experienced players who've worked well with a QB in the past. He needs zero time to get used to carrying his pads. Timing with Romo he'd be working on for a few weeks in practice in any event. And we won't be sitting Bowen to play Glenn, in any event.

The scenario we're talking about now is more like what Philly had to decide in whether or not to play TO in the Superbowl after Roy Williams gave him the business. It's a no-brainer if TG is healthy enough to play.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

so if he comes back FOR the superbowl, all are ok with him playing w/o taking a snap any other game in the year?

Yes, but in a limited role.

I would love to see him in on some plays like Quick outs, maybe a reverse and as a decoy.

It would also force our opponent to account for him during practice.

Terry Glenn is a fantastic weapon and should be used when available.

 

[iceberg]

This takes a lot less time with experienced players who've worked well with a QB in the past. He needs zero time to get used to carrying his pads. Timing with Romo he'd be working on for a few weeks in practice in any event. And we won't be sitting Bowen to play Glenn, in any event.

The scenario we're talking about now is more like what Philly had to decide in whether or not to play TO in the Superbowl after Roy Williams gave him the business. It's a no-brainer if TG is healthy enough to play.

if healthy and cleared sure - i suppose messages/thoughts got lost in where we were coming from at the time. : ) i also agree with glenn being a vet the things like timing and so forth are not as much of an issue for him but for romo/glenn as a tandem, i'd like to make sure *they* were ready to roll also.

Yes, but in a limited role.

I would love to see him in on some plays like Quick outs, maybe a reverse and as a decoy.

It would also force our opponent to account for him during practice.

Terry Glenn is a fantastic weapon and should be used when available.

i'd be hesitant to use him just to use him in only 1 game - esp the superbowl. are you introducing questions as much as solutions w/no time to prep and practice?