When will Terry Glenn be back???

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iceberg;1808870 said:
so if he comes back FOR the superbowl, all are ok with him playing w/o taking a snap any other game in the year?
I would still play him. Hurd only gets about 1-2 looks per game. Glenn could command much more than that even in his 1st game back.
 

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Idgit;1808822 said:
It's *not* up for intelligent debate.

If he's back and healthy, the more interesting question is who's our best #1 WR as opposed to can Glenn keep Sam 'the Bird' Hurd off the field.

Did you just imply that Glenn is better than TO or at least equal to TO? I'm not sure if you did. Even if you did not I would not doubt that there are some who feel that way.

Just to throw some random stats. Glenn's best year was 1147 receiving yards. TO has topped that 6 times in his career including this season. Glenn's best year was 7 receiving TDs. TO has topped that 9 times in his career including this season with double that number.

Glenn has to be close to 100% to be able to help Dallas this season. I don't agree that a 80% Glenn is better than Hurd or Austin because those guys play special teams. It would take a near 100% Glenn to be worth it. I hope he does come back at close to 100%. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
 

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joseephuss;1808971 said:
Did you just imply that Glenn is better than TO or at least equal to TO? I'm not sure if you did. Even if you did not I would not doubt that there are some who feel that way.

Just to throw some random stats. Glenn's best year was 1147 receiving yards. TO has topped that 6 times in his career including this season. Glenn's best year was 7 receiving TDs. TO has topped that 9 times in his career including this season with double that number.

Glenn has to be close to 100% to be able to help Dallas this season. I don't agree that a 80% Glenn is better than Hurd or Austin because those guys play special teams. It would take a near 100% Glenn to be worth it. I hope he does come back at close to 100%. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

What Glenn has that Hurd and Austin lack is vet savy, he know how to set up his routs and the guy has some very good hands. I think both Hurd and Austin have a bright future ahead of them but I do think Glenn can add a boost to an already great offense even at less than 100%
 

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Idgit;1808902 said:
This takes a lot less time with experienced players who've worked well with a QB in the past. He needs zero time to get used to carrying his pads. Timing with Romo he'd be working on for a few weeks in practice in any event. And we won't be sitting Bowen to play Glenn, in any event.

The scenario we're talking about now is more like what Philly had to decide in whether or not to play TO in the Superbowl after Roy Williams gave him the business. It's a no-brainer if TG is healthy enough to play.
ok..so a guy that missed all of training camp...that missed most of the regular season...that reportedly just started running 2 weeks ago does not need ANY time to get used to carrying his pads....he will autmatically in game shape? His legs have endurance? His legs have endurance to carry 25 pounds of gear? Wow...just wow! And if we do not sit a DL...who do you suggest would not dress?
 

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bbailey423;1808989 said:
ok..so a guy that missed all of training camp...that missed most of the regular season...that reportedly just started running 2 weeks ago does not need ANY time to get used to carrying his pads....he will autmatically in game shape? His legs have endurance? His legs have endurance to carry 25 pounds of gear? Wow...just wow! And if we do not sit a DL...who do you suggest would not dress?

I doubt Glenn could take as many snaps in his return from this injury as he has over the years but rotating him in and out of the lineup to help keep him fresh would still be a big addition to the Cowboys offense.
 

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If Glenn is going to get hit hard for the first time this year, be nice if it could be during the regular season rather than a playoff game or the Super Bowl.
 

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dogberry;1809021 said:
If Glenn is going to get hit hard for the first time this year, be nice if it could be during the regular season rather than a playoff game or the Super Bowl.

I agree. I think if he is going to play in the post season then he needs to get some reps in at least 2 of the last 4 games of the reg season
 

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and some felt this couldn't be intelligently discussed!!! : )
 

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03EBZ06;1808501 said:
I'm confident that he'll play end of regular season. :)


Me too. Why? Well, it's simple. This late in the season, why would the team have not put Glenn on IR by now and open up a roster spot unless they had a pretty good idea that he will play at some point? Just seems logical to me. I can understand not IRing him early in the year since they thought there was a chance he would come back. By now you would think the team has a pretty good idea whether he'll be able to contribute at the end of the season and in the playoffs. If they didn't think there was pretty good idea for him to get on the field now, they would have put him on the IR.
 

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If Glenn plays, we're not going to see the Glenn of last year. That should be obvious. However, he won't be just a decoy either. Glenn is not a second year player. He's a vet and knows how to prepare himself for a game, so rust isn't going to be the problem some of you think it will. Glenn is a WR, not an offensive lineman. Big difference in the "rust factor". If he does play this year, he won't be on the field for every snap. That certainly doesn't mean he won't contribute. He can come in on certain packages, particularly third and long. And like others said, he simply gives the defense something else to think about. He can stretch the field and open the middle up for everyone else. Defenses can't ignore him. Another positive. While Terry might not be in football shape, he should be extremely fresh since he hasn't played this year. So, the positives in missing time could offset some of the negatives. Fresh legs that don't have to be counted on every snap.
 

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Star4Ever;1809136 said:
If Glenn plays, we're not going to see the Glenn of last year. That should be obvious. However, he won't be just a decoy either. Glenn is not a second year player. He's a vet and knows how to prepare himself for a game, so rust isn't going to be the problem some of you think it will. Glenn is a WR, not an offensive lineman. Big difference in the "rust factor". If he does play this year, he won't be on the field for every snap. That certainly doesn't mean he won't contribute. He can come in on certain packages, particularly third and long. And like others said, he simply gives the defense something else to think about. He can stretch the field and open the middle up for everyone else. Defenses can't ignore him. Another positive. While Terry might not be in football shape, he should be extremely fresh since he hasn't played this year. So, the positives in missing time could offset some of the negatives. Fresh legs that don't have to be counted on every snap.
a lot of people said that about ellis and he is having one of his best if not his best season ever.
 

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By the way, I wonder if the team is staying quite about the possibility for Glenn's return because they really don't know or because they'd like to spring a little surprise on the rest of the NFL in time for the playoffs? Something to think about.
 

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joseephuss;1808971 said:
Did you just imply that Glenn is better than TO or at least equal to TO? I'm not sure if you did. Even if you did not I would not doubt that there are some who feel that way.

This was a topic of some good debate on this site in the offseason, so, yes, there are some who feel that way. I think the two are very complementary players, and I think they're both really, really good WRs. This year, clearly, TO is better than TG has ever been for us, but last year is a different story and is debatable.

joseephuss;1808971 said:
Just to throw some random stats. Glenn's best year was 1147 receiving yards. TO has topped that 6 times in his career including this season. Glenn's best year was 7 receiving TDs. TO has topped that 9 times in his career including this season with double that number.

Glenn has to be close to 100% to be able to help Dallas this season. I don't agree that a 80% Glenn is better than Hurd or Austin because those guys play special teams. It would take a near 100% Glenn to be worth it. I hope he does come back at close to 100%. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

I'm not sure where the idea started that Glenn might be coming back at 80%. Everything I've heard on the topic says the team is committed to have him back fully healthy before he gets on the field so we don't have a repeat of what happened earlier in training camp. In any event, assuming we're healthy the rest of the way, Glenn would take a position from Stanback or maybe Curtis on the gameday roster. We wouldn't sit a defensive player for him, and we won't be taking out our special teamers, realistically.
 

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Rampage;1809142 said:
a lot of people said that about ellis and he is having one of his best if not his best season ever.

Yea, but Glenn isn't going to have almost a whole season to get back into the swing of things. Read the rest of my post. I think he can definitely contribute, but not at the level he did last year. Just not reasonable to think so, but I hope I'm wrong.
 

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bbailey423;1808989 said:
ok..so a guy that missed all of training camp...that missed most of the regular season...that reportedly just started running 2 weeks ago does not need ANY time to get used to carrying his pads....he will autmatically in game shape? His legs have endurance? His legs have endurance to carry 25 pounds of gear? Wow...just wow! And if we do not sit a DL...who do you suggest would not dress?

I guess that depends on what you're talking about as far as carrying his pads goes. If you're using it as a euphemism for being in shape, then, well, it's just a dumb euphemism.

If he's cleared to play, then he'll have his endurance. It's not like the guy's not a well-conditioned athlete. He's got a high VO2 max. He's been training in some capacity or another the entire time, and he's running now. He won't be in mid-season form, but he'll be in shape to play football. Terry Glenn will not have an issue carrying his gear, no, and I think it's stupid to even suggest he would.

Read above for who I think we'd sit, but it won't be a DL.
 

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Star4Ever;1809147 said:
Yea, but Glenn isn't going to have almost a whole season to get back into the swing of things. Read the rest of my post. I think he can definitely contribute, but not at the level he did last year. Just not reasonable to think so, but I hope I'm wrong.

Didn't Ellis have a sack right off the bat? Obviously, he's gotten more and more healthy and had a bigger impact, but he definitely impacted the team positively--once he got used to the strain of carrying all those pads and the helmet.
 

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True. I'm sure Glenn hasn't been sitting on the couch eating Doritos and drinking Sam Adams for the past several months (although he should. I love it). He's been training. You can bank on that. He may not be in "football shape", but he'll be in shape. Again, he won't have to play many games and he won't play every snap. In addition, if he does play any regular season games, he should get 2 weeks off before the playoffs start since we should get a bye.
 

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iceberg;1809062 said:
and some felt this couldn't be intelligently discussed!!! : )

Whether or not TG is likely to be back healthy and effective this year is worth discussing. Whether or not a healthy TG is better than Sam 'the Bird' Hurd and Miles Austin in his first game back is not.
 

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Idgit;1809162 said:
Whether or not TG is likely to be back healthy and effective this year is worth discussing. Whether or not a healthy TG is better than Sam 'the Bird' Hurd and Miles Austin in his first game back is not.

yea, but sometimes we take another angle at what we're thinking before we come to a conclusion. it's why we try to talk things through. : )
 
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