Where are the "Austin can't run routes/get open" threads now?

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odog422;2943586 said:
For all the "expert" breakdowns that were here last week on how he lacked this and that, so he was incapable of running certain patterns and could get no separation, etc., you would expect the board flooded with these threads assuring gloom and doom.

Very pleased to see that I guess the WR coach really was telling the truth, just like Romo, about what this guy could do. Yes, he did run a double move without falling and yes he did catch a back shoulder pass and finished it with some great work after the catch. Body control, separation.

Yes, I know, one game. HOWEVER. The point is, apparently, he can do everything many swore up and down he couldn't, based on their "expert" opinion. So whose man enough to eat their crow this morning?


Most Cowboy fans questioned if he can stay healthy, not his route running.

BTW, it's one game. Please stop with the "He proved you wrong" threads. Save it for week 16 or even the Playoffs.
 

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shouldn't you also be calling out the people who quickly proclaimed Austin the #2 receiver?
 

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Bob Sacamano;2944630 said:
shouldn't you also be calling out the people who quickly proclaimed Austin the #2 receiver?


I'm pretty sure that thread will come out soon. :D
 

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MWILL;2944628 said:
Most Cowboy fans questioned if he can stay healthy, not his route running.

BTW, it's one game. Please stop with the "He proved you wrong" threads. Save it for week 16 or even the Playoffs.

There was a specific thread that basically said he was not able to run certain routes or achieve separation in his route running. That is not something that 16 games are not needed to see.

Did he demonstrate an ability to run something other than a go route or not? BTW, that thread came after the preseason game in which he ran a comeback and Babe negatively critiqued his route running ability.

That was heard and next came the thread I alluded to in my original post where people were stating emphatically that due to his body composition, speed...take your pick, it was a physical impossibility for him to run something other than go routes.

That is who the thread is directed at, because there were more than one of these so-called "experts" on WR route running. Thought I was pretty clear about that in the opening post.

So....16 games is not needed to see if this can be achieved. It has nothing to do with how many passes he catches. It has nothing to do with whether he remains healthy or not.

That's about as clear as I can make it. And BTW, I'll post whatever I like, as I would expect you too, as well. Simply don't click the link. No biggie.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2944630 said:
shouldn't you also be calling out the people who quickly proclaimed Austin the #2 receiver?

Nah, not the same.
 

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newnationcb;2944581 said:
:rolleyes:

If TO was this great WR, he'd have been drafted in the 1st round. If Romo was good, he'd have gone drafted and all that other BS:banghead:

TO was a third round pick and had more yards and just as many touchdowns as a rookie than Austin has had in 3 years.
 

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odog422;2944592 said:
Oh one of "deep routes" you referred to? Only problem there is your inference is it was a go route. And yes, I can infer this because you go on further to name every other type route known to man saying if Austin could only run....

That other deep route on the left sideline was...I'll let another poster describe it:



Hmmm....seems there are elements in his route running there that you seek but for whatever reason, choose not to see...

Its just setting up a route, the route was still a go route, he just wanted to get the DB's hips turned. Nothing special....
 

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Austin is one of the smoothest, most natural football players on the team.

The TD catch was big-time. He was well-covered, but made a fantastic adjustment, and then showed again how good he is with the ball in his hands.

I can't recall many situations where Romo threw to Austin and it was an incompletion because he was well-covered or dropped it. On the other hand, I can recall a handful of times where he was open deep and Romo overthrew him. Like in the Giants playoff game where he was open and Romo threw it 10 feet over his head.

Our STs present a real nightmare with Felix and Austin back there. If we ever get our blocking up to par, I believe our kickoff returns will be among the league's best.
...offers observations from game which describes "smoothness'. Okay... :write:
sacase;2944568 said:
LOL this post made me laugh....If austin was sooooo smooth with such good hands he would have been drafted much higher and would be starting by now. Austin has dropped several passes.
...questions why someone can be described as having the ability to be 'smooth' due to draft position. Check. :write:
newnationcb;2944581 said:
:rolleyes:

If TO was this great WR, he'd have been drafted in the 1st round. If Romo was good, he'd have gone drafted and all that other BS:banghead:
...refutes allegation that 'smoothness' has nothing to do with draft position. Got it. :write:
sacase;2944710 said:
TO was a third round pick and had more yards and just as many touchdowns as a rookie than Austin has had in 3 years.
...doesn't counter the claim that 'smoothness' has nothing to do with draft position. :huh:
 

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Very nice play by Austin, great to adjust to the ball in the air, and juke a guy out of his wallet.

My only question is, why did he have 1 catch if his route running was so superb?
Seems like he should've had at least 5 or 6 catches helping to move the chains like Witten.

If you're not being double teamed, and and you have excellent speed, you should be wide opened all over the field. Believe me, if you're fast and you get your hands on the ball, you can make magic, no one desputed that.
 

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Judas;2944748 said:
Very nice play by Austin, great to adjust to the ball in the air, and juke a guy out of his wallet.

My only question is, why did he have 1 catch if his route running was so superb?
Seems like he should've had at least 5 or 6 catches helping to move the chains like Witten.

If you're not being double teamed, and and you have excellent speed, you should be wide opened all over the field. Believe me, if you're fast and you get your hands on the ball, you can make magic, no one desputed that.

Others were getting open as well thus you 3 WR with long TD catches. Dallas wants to spread the ball around and use as many weapons as we can. This will only make it harder on defense when you can show the ability to get a lot of players involved
 

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Doomsday101;2944757 said:
Others were getting open as well thus you 3 WR with long TD catches. Dallas wants to spread the ball around and use as many weapons as we can. This will only make it harder on defense when you can show the ability to get a lot of players involved
How did the slow Witten come up with 5 catches and the slow Crayton come up with 4?
 

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Judas;2944775 said:
How did the slow Witten come up with 5 catches and the slow Crayton come up with 4?

1 Austin was not in the lineup as often as Crayton and Witten were

Dallas wants to get the ball to alot of different people and last sunday they managed to do that and did so very well so I really don't see what your problem is? Unless the object is just to rag on any and every thing which reading most of your post seems that is the entire object of you views.
 

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odog422;2944238 said:
Wait for what? The original thread said he simply could not run basically anything but go routes. That's the point.

Love how everyone is changing it from his route running ability to how many catches he has in a game....

You sound silly. He ran a simple 9 route and caught a pass.

You should be praising his ability to juke the second defender.

Instead you are making no sense.

Even Miles Austin wasn't impressed with that play...

Austin talks TD Catch

The other throw that went his way was a 9 route also.

And I like Miles Austin's skill set, but you are jumping the gun on trying to point out others on the board when you have nothing to back it up.

Fail.
 

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Doomsday101;2944780 said:
1 Austin was not in the lineup as often as Crayton and Witten were

Dallas wants to get the ball to alot of different people and last sunday they managed to do that and did so very well so I really don't see what your problem is? Unless the object is just to rag on any and every thing which reading most of your post seems that is the entire object of you views.
Apparently you either can't read, or choose to read what you want because that's not the object of all of my posts.

I simply said the guy doesn't run good routes, if you can't take that, it's your problem.

I've seen the the worst receivers in history (Austin is no where near that, i'm simply making a point) but I've seen the worst receivers catch touch downs, doesn't prove **** to me. Hell, Quincy took the Cowboys to the playoffs, does that mean he's better than Romo?
 

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dcfanatic;2944786 said:
You sound silly. He ran a simple 9 route and caught a pass.

You should be praising his ability to juke the second defender.

Instead you are making no sense.

Even Miles Austin wasn't impressed with that play...

Austin talks TD Catch

The other throw that went his way was a 9 route also.

And I like Miles Austin's skill set, but you are jumping the gun on trying to point out others on the board when you have nothing to back it up.

Fail.


The run after the catch was what made it impressive. Romo threw it to the back shoulder with defender playing on the inside after that Austin was able to come down and stay in bound and avoid a tackle with a nice little move.
 

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Judas;2944798 said:
Apparently you either can't read, or choose to read what you want because that's not the object of all of my posts.

I simply said the guy doesn't run good routes, if you can't take that, it's your problem.

I've seen the the worst receivers in history (Austin is no where near that, i'm simply making a point) but I've seen the worst receivers catch touch downs, doesn't prove **** to me. Hell, Quincy took the Cowboys to the playoffs, does that mean he's better than Romo?

He does not run good routs? That is your opinion clearly you are entitled to it. Austin was able to beat his man more than once however Romo over threw him one instance and threw the ball a bit behind him on another. I don't claim Austin to be one of the top WR in the game I do think he can go out and help this team win games. How many catches I don't care about what I care about is guys making plays when the ball comes their way. You can have the fantasy stats I want wins and Austin clearly was a contributor to that.
 

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Doomsday101;2944817 said:
He does not run good routs? That is your opinion clearly you are entitled to it. Austin was able to beat his man more than once however Romo over threw him one instance and threw the ball a bit behind him on another. I don't claim Austin to be one of the top WR in the game I do think he can go out and help this team win games. How many catches I don't care about what I care about is guys making plays when the ball comes their way. You can have the fantasy stats I want wins and Austin clearly was a contributor to that.
You're arguing amongst yourself sir. I never said he couldn't help us win, I never said he couldn't get opened, I responded to a post about his route running.

I try to stay on topic, and the topic was about his route running. I also said it won't matter when he's playing against single coverage, but when a team puts a dynamic scheme in place, and back their safeties up deep and hangs a stud FS over the top, then Austin will disappear until he learns to run better outs, and better in routes.

Can he learn this? hell yes but so far he's not shown it. Now he can still get deep on folks, he can catch the ball, he can run with the ball I never disputed those issues, maybe you should argue with someone who's all over the place because I talk mainly about the specific topic in place.
 

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Judas;2944839 said:
You're arguing amongst yourself sir. I never said he couldn't help us win, I never said he couldn't get opened, I responded to a post about his route running.

I try to stay on topic, and the topic was about his route running. I also said it won't matter when he's playing against single coverage, but when a team puts a dynamic scheme in place, and back their safeties up deep and hangs a stud FS over the top, then Austin will disappear until he learns to run better outs, and better in routes.

Can he learn this? hell yes but so far he's not shown it. Now he can still get deep on folks, he can catch the ball, he can run with the ball I never disputed those issues, maybe you should argue with someone who's all over the place because I talk mainly about the specific topic in place.

I understand what you said I also disagree on his rout running ability.
 

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You should've started a 'TO dropped another pass last nite' thread..............
 

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you know I watch that play over again and to me it looked like a good throw by Romo. He threw it to the outside and a slight bit short which avoided any risk of being intercepted by the defender who was draping his inside.
In that particular play, for Romo to throw it in stride, it would of had to been over the top and to the outside. I like Romo's choice for only Austin could catch that.
 
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