Where Romo Ranks all-time as Captain Comeback (and complete success story)

[CowboyFrog]

It evokes reactions, which is why people do it. Prescott is a good QB. He disappears often when it matters most. He panics. Until he overcomes that quirk he's developed, he will never be "very" good. Romo had a similar problem, but overcame it. Prescott however seems to be more of a basket case than he was before.

Im not asking this for the Dak vs Romo debate because seriously there is nothing that has seperated thier careers... but when exactly did Romo overcome his problem of losing the big game? I can get behind Romo was a good QB because he was, I have a hard time seeing where he prevailed where Dak has failed because that didnt happen..sorry. They both have failed in big situations, now the blame for why is what is most amusing in this debate as you watch posters take sides and try and rationalize unrational thinking.

 

[CouchCoach]

Romo was a good QB. Prescott is a good QB. Neither was/is a great QB.

However, they had nothing but average/bad QB's between Aikman and Romo so Romo looked better.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Romo was a good QB. Prescott is a good QB. Neither was/is a great QB.

However, they had nothing but average/bad QB's between Aikman and Romo so Romo looked better.

If looked at objectivley there is literally no other conclusion to come to. They are both good QB's who couldn't/can't so far overcomed the Franchises shortcommings elswhere... it is what it is.

 

[Motorola]

Tony was certainly fun to watch but did the end justify the means.

From my perspective the guy loved to throw the ball more than he did winning the game.
He would opt out of the run in a heartbeat he could be baited to do so easily guys like Ray Lewis laughed about it.

Tony had some real good teams he had more than a few opportunities he was more of the Pillsbury doughboy than a well conditioned athlete.

He like the celebrity life. I question whether he would be willing on a consistent basis to sacrifice enough to win.

Tony also had to be the most unlucky guy on the field a direct polar opposite of Eli Manning.

As bad as I thought Eli was he could come up big when it was necessary and as good as I thought Tony could potentially be he never came up big when it mattered.

Consequently Eli will be in the Hall of Fame and Tony will be left at home like we were at the end of many seasons
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Paragraphs and periods, use them.

He never will.

 

[Blackrain]

When people come in here slobbering to bash Romo the second the thread is created, yeah, it's butthurt. It's especially funny when there was no denigrating Prescott. The amount of energy some of the Romo-bashers put in here is every bit the amount that some Prescott bashers put in.

In the end, Romo didn't get it done. Sure there were circumstances that hurt his chances, but he didn't get it done. So far Prescott hasn't got it done either. Let's hope this season's changes help with that. Personally, until he overcomes whatever mental issue that was created when his ankle was injured I don't see it happening.

Personally I think we have gotten good value from both quarterbacks one was an undrafted free agent and the other a fourth round pick it isn't like they were one of the top five out of any draft class.

You refuse to use a first round draft pick on a quarterback you can only be but so critical these guys were able to make the playoffs and win games.

 

[Blackrain]

If looked at objectivley there is literally no other conclusion to come to. They are both good QB's who couldn't/can't so far overcomed the Franchises shortcommings elswhere... it is what it is.

Spot on good can get you to the playoffs and win a game here or there.

Under the right side of circumstances with an exceptional team around them they could get even further and win a super bowl.

Great quarterbacks like Staubach and aikman elevate their teams to a higher level and are capable of inspiring good players to play above their heads and be great.

 

[Blackrain]

Long story short a good player can have a lot of comebacks and never become a great player.

But it takes a great player to be given the monikers of Captain comeback and Captain America and there is only one of those.

We were very lucky to have him and I consider myself lucky to have seen him play on the great cowboys teams of the seventies.

 

[StarChamber_33]

35 NFL Quarterbacks in the history of the NFL were clutch enough to lead over 20 Fourth Quarter Comebacks in their career. Here they are, ranked by total comebacks.

This puts Romo above 99.8% of all QBs in clutchness.

Top

Link:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm

The hell with Romo; **Andy Dalton at #18 with 25 comebacks is more impressive considering he was never given much credit as a clutch performer throughout his career.

 

[G2]

Just chiming in here briefly....Romo had really good or even great lines in 2007, 2008, most of 2009, and especially 2014.......but one of the league's worst o-lines from 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013.

That 2014 line was tremendous...on par with 2016 even. And our lines have been good (sometimes great) for most years since then compared to league average.


So yes, nearly half his career, the lines were good. The other half they were awful, with some years being some of our worst in 30 years.
2011 and 2012 were just comically bad.

Can we use the body of work when he was on a roster or are we just using some of the seasons? He may not have been ready or good enough to start, but who's faults that?
I mean, we have people on this thread comparing 7 years to 14. If anyone want's to just be honest and actually look, there's a ton that can be reviewed that had nothing to do with the O line. Same for Dak.

 

[T-RO]

Im not asking this for the Dak vs Romo debate because seriously there is nothing that has seperated thier careers... but when exactly did Romo overcome his problem of losing the big game? I can get behind Romo was a good QB because he was, I have a hard time seeing where he prevailed where Dak has failed because that didnt happen..sorry. They both have failed in big situations, now the blame for why is what is most amusing in this debate as you watch posters take sides and try and rationalize unrational thinking.

1. This is ****not**** a Romo vs Dak debate. Thanks for playing.
2. Dak, Tony, and all other quarterbacks generally only have high level repeat success in "big situations" against the best teams if they have good head coaches, good defenses and surrounding offensive talent. Dak and Tony haven't had that.That, is rationality, yet it surprisingly baffles some people.

 

[T-RO]

Coming soon: Romo Receivers, Part 2

 

[Big_D]

The Romo vs Dak debate is ridiculous. People don't want to admit that Jerry was absolute garbage. But the drafts, the trades, free agency, the coaching hires.. they all say otherwise. Jerry at the time sucked. A whole slew of draft picks that were just tossed in the garbage. What QB doesn't need that? Romo was supposed to live off what Parcells did for the following 5 years while the GM was taking a nap.

 

[GMO415]

right mr 141 iNTS was jImmey man..lmao get real..yes they would have played them Danny white was sin fact like romo and was in Fact Landrys choice..
Crazy the false narratives that just keep popping up Tony Romo had almost 250 touchdowns and only 117 interceptions Troy Aikman had only 165 touchdowns and 141 interceptions Oh no no way that Jimmy Johnson would put up with that more touchdowns less interceptions..

Oh no did Tom Landry Mr. I won't put up with it have a quarterback with 155 touchdowns and 132 interceptions say it ain't so I mean keep bringing these narratives Tony Romo and Prescott are better than Danny.. And I would put Tony Romo on the 90s teams and guarantee we still win those Super Bowls that's the point of this thread people are underrating Tony Romo and for to some extent Prescott they do not turn the ball over as much as people keep saying when you compare them to some of the greats. Let me look up star back now and don't bring up it was a different era I don't want to hear about it..

Well there you go Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman and Danny white all had a lot less tds and Aikman and white more interceptions and guess what. Romo had ONLY 8 more career INTS then roger but 10 more tds..come on dude!!

narrative busted that's why we need these wake up calls and don't tell me it was a different era,

because I'll tell you they had better offensive lines ,better running backs, better coaches, better defenses, we can get all into that if you want because that's why this place drives me crazy you just want to cherry pick and use all the excuses you can to downplay Romo and Prescott's career they had better teams that's the difference not the talent the quarterbacks that we're talking about are all very talented and with the correct teams all would have had pretty much the same results for their careers that's why it's very different it's not the era they don't have the benefit of the coaches GM's etcetera

Romo

78-49-0
Cmp%
65.3
Yds
34183
Y/A
7.9
TD
248
Int
117

Danny white

62-30-0
Cmp%
59.7
Yds
21959
Y/A
7.4
TD
155
Int
132
FantPt
1276.

31
AV
127
QBrec
85-29-0
Cmp%
57.0
Yds
22700
Y/A
7.7
TD
153
Int
109
FantPt
1592.0

Landry, nor Jimmy would turn their team over to an undrafted QB.....a walk-on QB. It's laughable.

 

[T-RO]

Landry, nor Jimmy would turn their team over to an undrafted QB.....a walk-on QB. It's laughable.

This is comedy gold.

Staubach was drafted in the 10th round, which means he wouldn't have been drafted at all in the 7 round draft era.

Undrafted Hall of famers Drew Pearson and Cliff Harris also say hello.

 

[Blackrain]

This is comedy gold.

Staubach was drafted in the 10th round, which means he wouldn't have been drafted at all in the 7 round draft era.

Undrafted Hall of famers Drew Pearson and Cliff Harris also say hello.

Staubach was taken in the 10th round because he had to serve a mandatory four years in the military.

He was a Heisman trophy winner and would have been taken in the first round if there was no military commitment.

Every other real Dallas cowboy fan knows that but it obviously doesn't fit your narrative.

 

[T-RO]

What kind of clowns think quarterbacks are measured by their draft order? (or non draft order)

-6th round Tom Brady GOAT says hello
-Joe Theismann had to spend 3 years with Toronto Argonauts to earn cred before playing for Washington
-HOF Warren Moon? undrafted
-HOF Kurt Warner? undrafted
-HOF Bart Starr? 17th round pick (wouldn't have been drafted in modern era)
-Danny White? Just a third round pick

And trying to put words into a Landry's mouth? SHAME on you and GMO415. Shame!

 

[Blackrain]

What kind of clowns think quarterbacks are measured by their draft order? (or non draft order)

-6th round Tom Brady GOAT says hello
-Joe Theismann had to spend 3 years with Toronto Argonauts to earn cred before playing for Washington
-HOF Warren Moon? undrafted
-HOF Kurt Warner? undrafted
-HOF Bart Starr? 17th round pick (wouldn't have been drafted in modern era)
-Danny White? Just a third round pick

And trying to put words into a Landry's mouth? SHAME on you and GMO415. Shame!

What kind of clowns think all the rule changes don't benefit today's quarterbacks.

Read Tim hasselbeck's article on the subject and take special note of the very end echoes what I've been saying through this whole thread.

But he probably won't be credible because he only played quarterback in the NFL and isn't a member of cowboy zone. Lol

 

[T-RO]

No you totally missed the point about celebrity women taking a lot of time and maintenance that can detract from your football focus.

Sure thing.

No guys tied up with celebrity women--or high maintenance home situations--can win big. No way.

 

[T-RO]

What kind of clowns think all the rule changes don't benefit today's quarterbacks.

Interesting question. I've already said many times, including in this thread, that today's rules benefit quarterbacks. Try again.

 

[T-RO]

Romo Receivers Part 2: A Few Good Ones, but...

Dez Bryant
A prodigious athlete, a massive heart, a fan favorite (mine for sure), Bryant could do things on the field others only dream of. Paired with Tony, Dez had a two productive years, then three massive seasons. After that came a big decline, as Dez's receiving craft was never developed, he lost a step, and dbs learned to take away the few routes he could run. His last two seasons Dez was as much liability as anything. Dez had a terrible catch rate, and wasn't even doing anything much after the catch.

Kevin Ogletree
An undrafted WR, Kevin was OK. Decent. But certainly not the type of player you want to feature on a championship run.

Cole Beasley
The undrafted, under-appreciated kid who could always get open in the short passing game. In 11 seasons the Juice has produced 5800 yards in the NFL. He did a lot to somewhat salvage the Cowboys WR core during the last half of Romo's career.

Laurent Robinson
A journeyman who arrived in Dallas averaging just over 200 receiving yards over his previous three years...Romo did make this guy. In his only season with Romo the Robinson caught 858 yards.

Jason Witten
No need to say anything. Witten would give you 80-110 catches. Had wicked good hands and great chemistry with Tony. Clutch baller. But Jason was no scary down field play-maker.

Terrence C+ Williams
A dreaded "Body Catcher." Yet another Cowboy receiver battling drugs, unpaid bills, repeated car crashes, goofball plays and squandered talent.