Where Romo Ranks all-time as Captain Comeback (and complete success story)

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People say or imply that Parcells didn't like Romo or got tired of his professed "gun-slinging" and that's why he retired. That's not even a myth but lie, just like Tony's "choke artist" moniker. In the following video, Parcells has only one comment that can be interpreted as critical, but which practically applies to every QB. I was upset when Parcells decided to quit and wished he stayed for at least a couple more years. Everything else he said is about as positive as you can get out of oft curmudgeon:

 

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No I don't believe that Tony was a choker at all
Tony was a no holds bar drive it like you stole it gunslinger that love to pass the ball.

That botched hold gave the media something to use in a negative way on him forever.
I don't blame him for that that's completely on parcels you never have your starting quarterback as the holder for field goals he has enough to worry about without having that responsibility.

In my opinion Tony needed a strong coach that could tame his gunslinger mentality down to a dull roar to avoid some of the disasters.

Tony had the potential to be a super bowl quarterback he just needed a coach that could instill a better risk versus reward mentality so he could fulfill that potential in my humble opinion
I don't think that's the reason at all. Certainly not the only nor even main one.
 

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It’s common sense. If his body can’t hold up in an era where they protect quarterbacks what makes you think he can hold up in the 70s? You think the game softened up back then?

It’s funny you need a Time Machine to prove Romos body could hold up but don’t need one in order to see Romo play well on that era. His stats would’ve translated somehow.
No it's an opinion nobody knows you can say whatever it is you want on social media but that doesn't make it a fact so let's get over it I'm saying Tony Romo is underappreciated underrated and had every bit the talent that Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach had he just wasn't on their teams their teams were clearly better that goes through Prescott right now too that's why a guy like Matthew Stafford can just be himself and can't get anywhere with Detroit when's the Super bowl in his first year he didn't change the way he played his game he was on a clearly better team. That's the difference between those five quarterbacks it's the team they were on the coaching Staffs everything was different they had an edge and that's all there is to it you can't discount what Tony Romo did and right now Prescott playing very well at the quarterback position but we gotta keep hearing about Super Bowls so you're gonna hear me saying Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach would also not have Super Bowls with the teams that Prescott and Romo had to play with there wasn't the same coaching they weren't surrounded by the same players....
 

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No it's an opinion nobody knows you can say whatever it is you want on social media but that doesn't make it a fact so let's get over it I'm saying Tony Romo is underappreciated underrated and had every bit the talent that Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach had he just wasn't on their teams their teams were clearly better that goes through Prescott right now too that's why a guy like Matthew Stafford can just be himself and can't get anywhere with Detroit when's the Super bowl in his first year he didn't change the way he played his game he was on a clearly better team. That's the difference between those five quarterbacks it's the team they were on the coaching Staffs everything was different they had an edge and that's all there is to it you can't discount what Tony Romo did and right now Prescott playing very well at the quarterback position but we gotta keep hearing about Super Bowls so you're gonna hear me saying Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach would also not have Super Bowls with the teams that Prescott and Romo had to play with there wasn't the same coaching they weren't surrounded by the same players....
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No it's an opinion nobody knows you can say whatever it is you want on social media but that doesn't make it a fact so let's get over it I'm saying Tony Romo is underappreciated underrated and had every bit the talent that Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach had he just wasn't on their teams their teams were clearly better that goes through Prescott right now too that's why a guy like Matthew Stafford can just be himself and can't get anywhere with Detroit when's the Super bowl in his first year he didn't change the way he played his game he was on a clearly better team. That's the difference between those five quarterbacks it's the team they were on the coaching Staffs everything was different they had an edge and that's all there is to it you can't discount what Tony Romo did and right now Prescott playing very well at the quarterback position but we gotta keep hearing about Super Bowls so you're gonna hear me saying Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach would also not have Super Bowls with the teams that Prescott and Romo had to play with there wasn't the same coaching they weren't surrounded by the same players....
So it’s an opinion that Romos body wouldn’t have been able to hold up in that era….is it an opinion to say he’s as good as Roger and Troy? Because there’s even less proof of that.
 

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So it’s an opinion that Romos body wouldn’t have been able to hold up in that era….is it an opinion to say he’s as good as Roger and Troy? Because there’s even less proof of that.
I'd say just about 75% of everything here is all opinion it's rhetoric it's hyperbole we don't know unless you actually can go show me proof it's not like Troy aikman's body held up either and he had a great offensive line it's football it happens all players have injuries I don't care what era you're in.. Yes my opinion is Tony romos every bit as good as them and could have proved it if he was on those teams they played with superior teams it was not even close the coaching the schemes they were in yes I'm saying that I believe that I'm not going to give you proof because I can't prove it but I see troys numbers there's always excuses he has 200 yard games he has 165 touchdowns and 141 interceptions and that's all we talk about at Prescott lately is his interceptions but he only has 65 already has more touchdowns you're going to keep using the era thing it's going to annoy me because it doesn't work..

we just got the proof we need we got to look at stats Troy Aikman with the teams he had around him hat pedestrian numbers for a Hall of Fame quarterback it's proof he literally sometimes just dumped the ball down all game throw a couple passes and just hand it to Emmett 35 * a game he had better coaching better players around him yes he was talented nobody's saying he wasn't I'm saying that let's stop discounting guys like Romo and Prescott because they did not have the benefits that those other two Super Bowl winning quarterbacks had. That's it that's what I'm saying so get over it we're going to different opinions I think those guys were a lot more talented than you think because of what you saw in team failures in the bigger games but that's where the team concept comes in...
 

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Excuse me I use text to talk and I'm not going back and fix them on a sports talk forum for the likes of you yes a lot of them are run on because I don't have time I'm multitasking if you don't like it you can just skip on by and by the way Mr. mountain I'm defending Prescott as well did you can you not read do I need to put those in bold letters? I'm literally using comparisons from Roger and Troy to Prescott and Romo you know I can like both matter of fact I can like all four matter of fact I can like every player that's ever played for the Cowboys if I feel like defending them I will that's the difference between you and I you're anti Romo but pro Prescott and somehow you see it it has to be that way it doesn't have to be that way...
 

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You come for Romo boy you better be ready to read lol. Gonna get some essays to defend him and his play.
Maybe you can't read well maybe it's my run on sentences I don't care because I'm multitasking right now and using text to talk I'm defending Prescott and Romo I'm using valid debate in arguments not just stats but the fact is Troy and Roger had the benefit of a much superior teams with much superior coaching and that's why they were more successful that's it there isn't that big a gap as you might wanna think they're all very good quarterbacks just some had better teams I mean you look at Tom Landry 's teams he had five opportunities and only one two Super Bowls because of situational football happened but I'm not taking that away from him he's still was great but the fact is Jimmy Johnson 1/2 in a row and in our 90s team won everyone of them.. You can just look back at those games and see the dropped balls the missed plays by the referees and that's why Landry didn't get more Super Bowls and that stuff happens to Tony Romo and Prescott in some of the games in the playoffs is why they're not having more playoff success the teams just aren't good enough and they're not coached as well..
 

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I'd say just about 75% of everything here is all opinion it's rhetoric it's hyperbole we don't know unless you actually can go show me proof it's not like Troy aikman's body held up either and he had a great offensive line it's football it happens all players have injuries I don't care what era you're in.. Yes my opinion is Tony romos every bit as good as them and could have proved it if he was on those teams they played with superior teams it was not even close the coaching the schemes they were in yes I'm saying that I believe that I'm not going to give you proof because I can't prove it but I see troys numbers there's always excuses he has 200 yard games he has 165 touchdowns and 141 interceptions and that's all we talk about at Prescott lately is his interceptions but he only has 65 already has more touchdowns you're going to keep using the era thing it's going to annoy me because it doesn't work..

we just got the proof we need we got to look at stats Troy Aikman with the teams he had around him hat pedestrian numbers for a Hall of Fame quarterback it's proof he literally sometimes just dumped the ball down all game throw a couple passes and just hand it to Emmett 35 * a game he had better coaching better players around him yes he was talented nobody's saying he wasn't I'm saying that let's stop discounting guys like Romo and Prescott because they did not have the benefits that those other two Super Bowl winning quarterbacks had. That's it that's what I'm saying so get over it we're going to different opinions I think those guys were a lot more talented than you think because of what you saw in team failures in the bigger games but that's where the team concept comes in...
I never said Romo or Dak wasn’t talented. I’m typically advocate of believing these players today are faster, stronger and smarter than players of the past thanks to technology among other things.

But I can’t just ignore that Troy and Roger played in different eras. It’s a big deal especially in the conversation and debate. You can’t have a honest debate on it ignoring that. Troy had a great team but having a great team doesn’t mean Troy wasn’t talented.
 

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Maybe you can't read well maybe it's my run on sentences I don't care because I'm multitasking right now and using text to talk I'm defending Prescott and Romo I'm using valid debate in arguments not just stats but the fact is Troy and Roger had the benefit of a much superior teams with much superior coaching and that's why they were more successful that's it there isn't that big a gap as you might wanna think they're all very good quarterbacks just some had better teams I mean you look at Tom Landry 's teams he had five opportunities and only one two Super Bowls because of situational football happened but I'm not taking that away from him he's still was great but the fact is Jimmy Johnson 1/2 in a row and in our 90s team won everyone of them.. You can just look back at those games and see the dropped balls the missed plays by the referees and that's why Landry didn't get more Super Bowls and that stuff happens to Tony Romo and Prescott in some of the games in the playoffs is why they're not having more playoff success the teams just aren't good enough and they're not coached as well..

You’re not having a valid debate if you refuse to acknowledge Romo and Roger played in different eras of football…Romo’s era was way more stat friendly. You have to acknowledge it to have this debate.
 

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After the "Seattle Snap" play media and fans focused and magnified every single interception. But at the end Tony threw the same rate of INT as Peyton.

It's also a pity that by the time Tony finally had a good offensive line...his back was a chronic mess.
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I'd say just about 75% of everything here is all opinion it's rhetoric it's hyperbole we don't know unless you actually can go show me proof it's not like Troy aikman's body held up either and he had a great offensive line it's football it happens all players have injuries I don't care what era you're in.. Yes my opinion is Tony romos every bit as good as them and could have proved it if he was on those teams they played with superior teams it was not even close the coaching the schemes they were in yes I'm saying that I believe that I'm not going to give you proof because I can't prove it but I see troys numbers there's always excuses he has 200 yard games he has 165 touchdowns and 141 interceptions and that's all we talk about at Prescott lately is his interceptions but he only has 65 already has more touchdowns you're going to keep using the era thing it's going to annoy me because it doesn't work..

we just got the proof we need we got to look at stats Troy Aikman with the teams he had around him hat pedestrian numbers for a Hall of Fame quarterback it's proof he literally sometimes just dumped the ball down all game throw a couple passes and just hand it to Emmett 35 * a game he had better coaching better players around him yes he was talented nobody's saying he wasn't I'm saying that let's stop discounting guys like Romo and Prescott because they did not have the benefits that those other two Super Bowl winning quarterbacks had. That's it that's what I'm saying so get over it we're going to different opinions I think those guys were a lot more talented than you think because of what you saw in team failures in the bigger games but that's where the team concept comes in...
The super bowl winning quarterbacks especially staubach did not have the benefit of the rules being changed to favor the passing game and make it easier to pass.

They played in a Time when things were much tougher on quarterbacks and receivers you refuse to take this into any consideration.

You can continue to beat the drum till you're blue in the face about how Romo didn't have good teams around him but everyone knows he had his opportunities.

What can't be debated and is flat out truth is there were rule changes since the seventies that favor the passing game the fact that you don't want to accept this as fact and that it has a great impact on the passing game just means your opinions can't be taken seriously
 

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Not sure about that at all. Most NFL players have very active, sometimes crazy off-field social lives. Players get hot babes--that's sure not something unique to Tony. I can't recall anyone in those years ever saying that Romo wasn't prepared, physically or mentally.
Yeah football players usually have some very nice looking women but Tony took it to a whole different level.

He had beautiful women that were full-blown celebrities in their own right.

These beauty's commanded attention and maintenance that a young football player might have a tough time dealing with along with the responsibilities of being the starting quarterback of the Dallas cowboys.
 

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Excuse me I use text to talk and I'm not going back and fix them on a sports talk forum for the likes of you yes a lot of them are run on because I don't have time I'm multitasking if you don't like it you can just skip on by and by the way Mr. mountain I'm defending Prescott as well did you can you not read do I need to put those in bold letters? I'm literally using comparisons from Roger and Troy to Prescott and Romo you know I can like both matter of fact I can like all four matter of fact I can like every player that's ever played for the Cowboys if I feel like defending them I will that's the difference between you and I you're anti Romo but pro Prescott and somehow you see it it has to be that way it doesn't have to be that way...
Hey while you're multitasking see if you can get a handle on some of the rule changes that over the years have made the passing game easier and change the game.

Then maybe you can discuss quarterbacks from different eras like you have a clue rather than just babbling nonsense that you won't accept that different eras with different rules had an effect on the passing game.

Cuz guess what your Internet bully crap doesn't fly here if you can't back up your opinions get back to the kids table where you belong.
 

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While we're at it this morning let's put this whole if Romo had Troy and Roger's teams he would have won I call BS.

Tony Romo was a very good quarterback in his time and had a lot of potential.

He in no way shape or form was the leader of men that Roger staubach was.
Roger would have flat out got more out of Tony's teams than he did.

Tony would have been trying to date Ann-Margret or Raquel Welch in the seventies and gotten destroyed on the field on Sunday.
 

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Yeah football players usually have some very nice looking women but Tony took it to a whole different level.

He had beautiful women that were full-blown celebrities in their own right.

These beauty's commanded attention and maintenance that a young football player might have a tough time dealing with along with the responsibilities of being the starting quarterback of the Dallas cowboys.
So...countless hot women are OK for a quarterback.

But a few extremely hot women that have their own fame...that's not OK.

Did I summarize correctly?
 

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Blackrain,

If you'd argued for Roger Staubach and commitment to wife and monogamy...I might have respected your opinion. Sincerely, I might have.

That would have constituted something meaningful, instead of sheer hypocrisy and BS, which is what you dished up.
 
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