Where will LeBron build his super (friends) team?

[Deep_Freeze]

Deng is trash. I am sure they can trade clarkson, he is a good player.

Really both are trash, will make them hard to trade. Lakers are in win right now mode, but with few resources it will be difficult.

Other than outside of bball stuff moneywise, Bron really has no reason to go to LA.

 

[ghst187]

Considering OKC has now loaded up, has Lebron booked a plane ticket to OKC yet?
Or has KD come running back?

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

This is why Lakers are not clear front runner. Magic can build around around Ingram and all which seems to be the plan or hand the franchise to LeBron but he can't do both. Noting else on the Lakers roster is much of an asset and they are tradeable firsts for a while.

That was a team that won 26 games so they have a long way to go to have a legit NBA roster. It looks 2 to 3 years away from playoff contention.

BUT... Magic could flip the script and go opposite direction with LeBron makeover and he'd need assets such as Ball/Ingram to make that happen imho.

They are assets to the Lakers. As for having an NBA roster, pretty sure a lineup of Ball, Ingram, Paul George, Lebron and whoever else at center (Zubac prob) is an NBA roster.

 

[StarBoyz83]

The utah jazz








Lol I wish

 

[jterrell]

I think if Lebron goes to LA Ingram and Ball are traded. And if you are LA you have to ask yourself if its better to go with a short window with Lebron & Friends or keep building on your young core. Its also worth noting that LA is losing a potentially high lotto pick this year to Philadelphia or Boston so your young core may just be Ingram and Ball.

I agree completely which is why I think what Magic does will be super interesting.

It'd essentially be a full roster overhaul.
And one with a fairly short life span BUT a 26 win team with just Lonzo Ball isn't a 45-50 win team IMHO and they lose the 1st so the youth movement might be hard to bank on as that team can't lose forever and bounce back.

Worth watching imho.

 

[jterrell]

San Antonio LeBron loves him some Popovich.

Spurs would be a serious contender imho if they had any cap space.
But Aldridge is the gift that keeps on giving.
He and Gasol eat a lot of space.

Tony Parker's cap hold is very large as well but he can always sign for less to be a part-timer.

Kawhi and LBJ together would threaten the GSW.

 

[JoeKing]

Spurs would be a serious contender imho if they had any cap space.
But Aldridge is the gift that keeps on giving.
He and Gasol eat a lot of space.

Tony Parker's cap hold is very large as well but he can always sign for less to be a part-timer.

Kawhi and LBJ together would threaten the GSW.

Despite your opinion, they are a serious contender. You don't have to agree or concede or even acknowledge the point. It exist as fact independent of your existence.

 

[jterrell]

Despite your opinion, they are a serious contender. You don't have to agree or concede or even acknowledge the point. It exist as fact independent of your existence.

it's ok for you to dream and ignore reality... but it does make you look dumb and make others aware they should ignore any nba comments you make.

 

[JoeKing]

it's ok for you to dream and ignore reality... but it does make you look dumb and make others aware they should ignore any nba comments you make.

Spurs are a force to be reckoned with... that is the reality in the NBA. Not understanding this only shows your own ignorance. But please do ignore my future NBA comments.

 

[jterrell]

They are assets to the Lakers. As for having an NBA roster, pretty sure a lineup of Ball, Ingram, Paul George, Lebron and whoever else at center (Zubac prob) is an NBA roster.

They are assets to the Lakers, yes, and other young teams. They are not assets to LeBron or guys who will help you win titles right now.
And the Lakers would have less depth the 2016 Cavs.

LeBron forced CLE to trade off Wiggins because he wasn't playing with kids.

Thus again the question becomes how does Magic feel about it.
Could he keep one of them and lure LeBron? Maybe.
Can he keep both and not add significantly more around LeBron yet lure him? Very, very doubtful.

I do think the Lakers are serious contenders but I'm also about 99% sure the decision will be between the young guys and going for it all with LeBron.

 

[jterrell]

Spurs are a force to be reckoned with... that is the reality in the NBA. Not understanding this only shows your own ignorance. But please do ignore my future NBA comments.

The Spurs are good and they've largely been very, very good. They aren't winning anything of note this year because no one but GSW are but they are still good. Somewhere between 2nd and 5th in the West.

That has nothing to do with them manufacturing an extra 30m of cap space to sign LeBron; much less being able to flip that team for LeBron and friends which is what the thread is about.
IF you want me to ignore your comments. it'd be pretty easy to ya know not post in a thread I started or not comment directly on my statements within said thread. lol.

But, hey, maybe I was overly harsh... please tell us how the LeBron plan comes together for SAS?

 

[JoeKing]

The Spurs are good and they've largely been very, very good. They aren't winning anything of note this year because no one but GSW are but they are still good. Somewhere between 2nd and 5th in the West.

That has nothing to do with them manufacturing an extra 30m of cap space to sign LeBron; much less being able to flip that team for LeBron and friends which is what the thread is about.
IF you want me to ignore your comments. it'd be pretty easy to ya know not post in a thread I started or not comment directly on my statements within said thread. lol.

But, hey, maybe I was overly harsh... please tell us how the LeBron plan comes together for SAS?

You should share that crystal ball that tells you about events that haven't happened yet and your interest in the Spurs money matters is interesting. It's a cool story... if only true it would be good for you. LOL

 

[darthseinfeld]

They are assets to the Lakers, yes, and other young teams. They are not assets to LeBron or guys who will help you win titles right now.
And the Lakers would have less depth the 2016 Cavs.

LeBron forced CLE to trade off Wiggins because he wasn't playing with kids.

Thus again the question becomes how does Magic feel about it.
Could he keep one of them and lure LeBron? Maybe.
Can he keep both and not add significantly more around LeBron yet lure him? Very, very doubtful.

I do think the Lakers are serious contenders but I'm also about 99% sure the decision will be between the young guys and going for it all with LeBron.

If Anthony Davis becomes available Ball/Ingram is a better package then most teams can put together. Celtics could beat it, but I dont think they will part with Tatum or maybe even Brown to do so. Alot of what the Celtics can offer depends on the status of the Grizzleys pick. If it doesn't convey this year it becomes much more valuable.

Lebron, George, and Davis is a very compelling trio.

 

[jterrell]

If Anthony Davis becomes available Ball/Ingram is a better package then most teams can put together. Celtics could beat it, but I dont think they will part with Tatum or maybe even Brown to do so. Alot of what the Celtics can offer depends on the status of the Grizzleys pick. If it doesn't convey this year it becomes much more valuable.

Lebron, George, and Davis is a very compelling trio.

That would be compelling for AD for sure. But lack of trade-able 1sts would be an issue imho.
And keep in mind AD makes 24m so you either use like 14m of your cap space or you add filler to that trade; and that filler isn;t likely to make the trade look better for NO.

Yes AD, LeBron and PG13 is very compelling.
But again that's what I'm saying. Moves involving the highly regarded kids is probably what it takes. We saw there wasn't much of a market for D'Angelo Russell and he's definitely better than most of the young guys they have after the Big 2.

 

[jterrell]

You should share that crystal ball that tells you about events that haven't happened yet and your interest in the Spurs money matters is interesting. It's a cool story... if only true it would be good for you. LOL

ahhh, now it makes sense.
you had no idea the NBA had salary caps and guaranteed contracts.

here, lemme help you.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/san-antonio-spurs/cap/2018/

might note that the Spurs have 2 mil in cap space IF they rescind cap holds to Tony Parker and Kyle Anderson.

 

[JoeKing]

ahhh, now it makes sense.
you had no idea the NBA had salary caps and guaranteed contracts.

here, lemme help you.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/san-antonio-spurs/cap/2018/

might note that the Spurs have 2 mil in cap space IF they rescind cap holds to Tony Parker and Kyle Anderson.

again.... cool story, bro.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

They are assets to the Lakers, yes, and other young teams. They are not assets to LeBron or guys who will help you win titles right now.
And the Lakers would have less depth the 2016 Cavs.

Wrong. LBall, JRandle, BIngram, LNance, JClarkson, KKuzma, JHart, IZubac, TBryant. Add to that PGeorge and Lebron. Who knows what the rest of the roster will be. I expect Randle and Ingram to breakout this year. Kuzma looks like a steal (from Summer League).

 

[jterrell]

Wrong. LBall, JRandle, BIngram, LNance, JClarkson, KKuzma, JHart, IZubac, TBryant. Add to that PGeorge and Lebron. Who knows what the rest of the roster will be. I expect Randle and Ingram to breakout this year. Kuzma looks like a steal (from Summer League).

Not sure what exactly we are even debating at this point.
The Lakers were a 26 win team. They've added a great prospect in Lonzo Ball but he's a kid who can't shoot it all that well.
No that team doesnt match up to CLE 2016. If you disagree I seriously question if you've bothered looking at the rosters.

CLE had legit veteran players like Deron Williams and Richard Jefferson as bench scrubs. They were shallow but shallow with vets.
The Lakers lack proven NBA players.
And right now only Ingram and Ball have the type of cache around the league to warrant much of anything in trade.

LBJ is not playing with those guys man. He's just not. So if he goes to the Lakers that roster would have to be overhauled same way it was in CLE.

Julius Randle played his HS ball 5 minutes from me and I am familiar with his trainer/coach JWebster and that AAU program Texas Titans/Nike Pro Skills Elite. I truly hope he achieves greatness but his trade value right now is a low first or 2nd round pick. He's a 6'7" lefty power forward that has limited shooting range.

 

[jterrell]

Well I follow bball, and the Lakers are just terrible. No resources, they will be lucky to clear space for Bron and friends. It would have to be him and Paul George, and the Lakers will still have to dump salary to sign both. Wade would have to sign for the vet minimum, yeah right.

If I were Bron, I was stay in Cleveland and lose to the Warriors cause his legacy will be horrible if he leaves to lose in LA (his legacy is very very important to him). Now if he really wants to do something, he has a relationship with Ben Simmons since Ben was in college and still works out with him even a couple of months ago. Philly is also one of the top 5 markets in basketball. If I were him, I would go to Philly, win a championship then sit back in the rocking chair (like Kareem) and let Embiid, Simmons, and Fultz win a bunch more.

Just me though, NBA is different that the NFL.

Philly would be my top theory.
But Philly would have to ship out some of those young guys for proven vets.
LBJ isn't playing with 4 dudes under 25 in the 8 man rotation.
But Philly could easily flip about half that young team to become a LBJ friendly destination.

Wherever LBJ goes he will become the pseudo/asst GM as part of the deal.
That does wear on teams and owners but only once they get used to winning and start taking making the finals for granted.

Fun topic imho but we will have to see which team blinks and gives up it's GM powers to LeBron imho.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Philly would be my top theory.
But Philly would have to ship out some of those young guys for proven vets.
LBJ isn't playing with 4 dudes under 25 in the 8 man rotation.
But Philly could easily flip about half that young team to become a LBJ friendly destination.

Wherever LBJ goes he will become the pseudo/asst GM as part of the deal.
That does wear on teams and owners but only once they get used to winning and start taking making the finals for granted.

Fun topic imho but we will have to see which team blinks and gives up it's GM powers to LeBron imho.

Yeah although Philly could sign him outright, I doubt he does it as of now with the additions the Cavs have made. Plus I don't see Philly giving up any of those kids for him at all, he would have to sign outright there or go elsewhere. They have too much potential for a dynasty with that team to give up one or two of those 3 for Bron.

I still don't believe he is going to the Lakers for what they have, but to each is own with that. Only reason why I could see him going to the Lakers is if he just wants to live in LA......Ball, Ingram, and Randle aren't even in the same universe as Fultz, Simmons, and Embiid at all in terms of upside. The Paul thing would make it interesting, if they could actually sign him, but they still couldn't beat the Warriors. LA doesn't have a chance unless he just wants to live in LA cause that team is nowhere near ready to compete unless of course they trade for a lot of vets, which would be dumb to just lose to the Warriors and getting rid of youth.

If the Cavs were to win a ring this year, I'm starting to think he will stay with the Cavs. If I were him I would go to a team with more potential for the future (if he loses) than some old team when he's 34 and everyone on the Warriors are much younger. No other team is even worth talking about until at least around trade deadline, Philly, Lakers, and Cavs are the only ones worth talking about as of now. Everyone else that he would even actually consider would have to clear alot of space at that time.