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Joe Realist

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Sorry smart guy, I don't have to buy your role of insult nor not seeing a team standing it's own and fighting through. Oh, there still is talent...even if the hecklers don't hang...and have ever really fought through. Did G.I.'s make it through the side show of VietNam? Yea we did and we had to remake the NCO's in nose to nose confrontation.
This isn’t Vietnam. It’s a circus. Are there a few bright spots? Perhaps. But like I said before, we won’t see another championship from this team in our lifetimes.
 

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This isn’t Vietnam. It’s a circus. Are there a few bright spots? Perhaps. But like I said before, we won’t see another championship from this team in our lifetimes.
We never gave up...that's all you are doing and running from it as well. Explain what makes up 5 sacks against the Eagles. Can you instead of crying. That doesn't take any kind of real convictions...just honesty.
 

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We never gave up...that's all you are doing and running from it as well. Explain what makes up 5 sacks against the Eagles. Can you instead of crying. That doesn't take any kind of real convictions...just honesty.
Nobody is crying and please don’t compare war with football.
 

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And those 5 sacks all came in the first half. So one team adjusted and the other didn’t. I know you want to look for some positive’s here, and if you feel good about it, that’s your choice.
 

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Nobody is crying and please don’t compare war with football.
Football is a fully confrontation sport and it takes the same level of commitment and fighting through focus for success. Leadership principals are the same.

All that has to be done is exactly the organizational elements used to develop. It takes organization and applications for situational success. It takes guts to see through situational complication and apply technique that applies resolution. Here, full use of healthy linebackers.

Someone deploy you? Been there and done that for 23 years...don't you experience my experience. Organizational skills and how long the military has been around. They know how to observe and also solve a problem.

Don't you ever tell ME to not compare education and reasons how to develop an organization. Focus is everything relevent. It is the oldest governmental agency in the country.

Organizational skills still cross across in application. So does the skill of focus. Don't want simple truth, don't listen. It isn't wrong and did you serve?
 

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Football is a fully confrontation sport and it takes the same level of commitment and fighting through focus for success. Leadership principals are the same.

All that has to be done is exactly the organizational elements used to develop. It takes organization and applications for situational success. It takes guts to see through situational complication and apply technique that applies resolution. Here, full use of healthy linebackers.

Someone deploy you? Been there and done that for 23 years...don't you experience my experience. Organizational skills and how long the military has been around. They know how to observe and also solve a problem.

Don't you ever tell ME to not compare education and reasons how to develop an organization. Focus is everything relevent. It is the oldest governmental agency in the country.

Organizational skills still cross across in application. So does the skill of focus. Don't want simple truth, don't listen. It isn't wrong and did you serve?
Again, this isn’t the military. Leadership is important in any organization. If you were deployed and someone makes a horrible decision, you just might lose your life. If someone makes a bad decision at football well you have a losing season but at least the owner is making money. You can spout about this all you want and I understand what you’re saying about leadership but I don’t think you would be going over the head of your commanding officer when you didn’t like something. There’s a lot more discipline in what you’ve done.
 

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Well the giants are coming up on Thanksgiving, so there's that.
We'll be awesome.
I wonder how many families are upset to have that game slated on Thanksgiving.
May have to break out the yard darts.
 

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And those 5 sacks all came in the first half. So one team adjusted and the other didn’t. I know you want to look for some positive’s here, and if you feel good about it, that’s your choice.
You assume crap for me left and right. Don't.

I don't care if you say 5 sacks in the first half or 2 turn-overs. That is a strong showings. If the Dallas offense had opened the game open and not disappeared the second half, that would have changed the defenses selected. The Eagles could not have run intensely as they did the second half.

Your direction is based on bias. Recognize improvement when it does happen.

I'm not naive about football. Don't throw labels at me. I included a post on growing up in the sport and who I interacted with. I played football as well, for 20+ years, in the organized sport in service.

Here and now, I bet YOU that the Dallas defense will be playing good defense before the end of this season. Want the bet?
 

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Again, this isn’t the military. Leadership is important in any organization. If you were deployed and someone makes a horrible decision, you just might lose your life. If someone makes a bad decision at football well you have a losing season but at least the owner is making money. You can spout about this all you want and I understand what you’re saying about leadership but I don’t think you would be going over the head of your commanding officer when you didn’t like something. There’s a lot more discipline in what you’ve done.
You don't lie about anything deployed. Grow up. You talk real truth to a General when it happens...don't kid yourself. Leadership and people skills are the same.

There is injury in both atmospheres. Just to jerk your pants...how many players are killed yearly or just die. Both are real.

Discipline...like you explain. I attended the US Air Force Academy with an appointment from Senator Kika de la Garza and was a Senior NCO in the Army.

Developing is always the point looked for. Dedication is what YOU are searching for...then wins.
 

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The results aren’t surprising, considering he’s geriatric and was out of the league.

We will have an entirely new staff next season. I dont have a dog in the fight. I just happen to be able to use context. I know, it's a rare trait on this board.
 

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We will have an entirely new staff next season. I dont have a dog in the fight. I just happen to be able to use context. I know, it's a rare trait on this board.
Based on all that pessimism, we wanted to see how many more games the team might win this season. Winning games can makes us feel better, but they also hurt draft positioning. It’s a dilemma. With eight games left on the schedule, we asked how many overall games will Dallas win this year. The overwhelming majority, 68%, said four to five. That means the belief is the Cowboys will win once or twice more this year.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...rry-jones-draft-pick-odds-bet-gambling-texans
 

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Based on all that pessimism, we wanted to see how many more games the team might win this season. Winning games can makes us feel better, but they also hurt draft positioning. It’s a dilemma. With eight games left on the schedule, we asked how many overall games will Dallas win this year. The overwhelming majority, 68%, said four to five. That means the belief is the Cowboys will win once or twice more this year.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...rry-jones-draft-pick-odds-bet-gambling-texans

I was week to week for the longest. Now I have a difficult time. I dont see more than a couple more wins on the horizon, but I hate the idea of losing to Houston. I work in Houston and it's miserable dealing with Texan fans.

Also without Dak I don't have much hope of rebounding and making any kind of run whatsoever, so yeah I'm just indifferent.
 

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You don't lie about anything deployed. Grow up. You talk real truth to a General when it happens...don't kid yourself. Leadership and people skills are the same.

There is injury in both atmospheres. Just to jerk your pants...how many players are killed yearly or just die. Both are real.

Discipline...like you explain. I attended the US Air Force Academy with an appointment from Senator Kika de la Garza and was a Senior NCO in the Army.

Developing is always the point looked for. Dedication is what YOU are searching for...then wins.

I will say again leadership is important in any organization. I have helped many people who are emerging or existing leaders become better, including military personnel who might have been stuck in a command and control mindset, which does not work.

An important thing about leadership is actually believing in that leader. Now I know this is going off on a bit of a tangent and you’re talking about linebackers. So the linebackers improving? maybe? You asked about a bet for the defense being good the rest of the season. Please define good. Are you saying they will move up in their rankings? Will they give up less points? They may play well against the Giants and the Panthers, but I’m not sure against those other teams.
 

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I will say again leadership is important in any organization. I have helped many people who are emerging or existing leaders become better, including military personnel who might have been stuck in a command and control mindset, which does not work.

An important thing about leadership is actually believing in that leader. Now I know this is going off on a bit of a tangent and you’re talking about linebackers. So the linebackers improving? maybe? You asked about a bet for the defense being good the rest of the season. Please define good. Are you saying they will move up in their rankings? Will they give up less points? They may play well against the Giants and the Panthers, but I’m not sure against those other teams.
The biggest variable would be how the defense does at stopping opponent's run game. If not that will be a major thing in the off season to improve. That will demand defensive tackles.

The defensive ends should be fine as already stated in thread.

The linebackers project here and now and add good speed to the box already.

The cornerbacks should not be any problem as starters with the return of the injured.

Next season should fall into strength once again.

Game numbers aren't significant as totals, because of Prescott gone. Sacks and turn-overrs are the real indicators with the yards running allowed.
 

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Slowly but surely, Mike Zimmer's defense has made strides as his players get more comfortable in the scheme. It was evident last week with five sacks and two turnovers, but there's still work to be done to meet Zimmer's expectations.

"He keeps his players motivated and expects his players to come in wanting to learn more and wanting to do better," Overshown said. I think when you've got that as a coach and as a leader you never can get too far down, you never can feel like you can't get back up from what y'all just faced."

Although there have been a lot of down points for the Cowboys defense this year, Overshown prides himself on giving his all every snap for veteran players like Eric Kendricks, who are nearing the tail-end of their careers, hoping that his effort can carry long-term effects for the defense's production and his teammates' appreciation.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/demarvion-overshown-is-completely-healthy-and-wreaking-havoc


The past three weeks the element for leadership and motivation was missing from the coaching staff. Well, that element showed up again on the defensive side.

Zimmer is the man. Linebackers are the fiber that connects a defense, from crashing in on the linebacker to the secondary behind. This group of 'backers' are battle proven now. That and they are good.

Micah Parsons, DeMarvion Overton, and Eric Kendricks are a strong and talented trio. Damone Clark, and Marist Liufau provide a good depth.

I'm watching this group provide speed and intensity.

The other two groups will be growing strongly.
Philly’s starters hung 34 on us playing only three quarters. That’s not making strides, that’s getting you *** kicked.
 

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Philly’s starters hung 34 on us playing only three quarters. That’s not making strides, that’s getting you *** kicked.
The point started out was that the linebackers did make a point despite the team beating. The linebackers were good and brought speed into the box.
 

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I wonder how many families are upset to have that game slated on Thanksgiving.
May have to break out the yard darts.
At the rate we're playing. I'll be happy to be one of the rings.
 

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The point started out was that the linebackers did make a point despite the team beating. The linebackers were good and brought speed into the box.
The linebackers also ran themselves out of plays and lost contain too many times. The job of a defense is to stop the other teams from scoring. Counting stats don't mean a damn thing if the other team outscores your team by 28 points. We went into that game knowing the main focus of Philly is to run the ball. They ran for 187 and even took the foot off the gas for a quarter. The linebackers had good plays, but they also had too many bad plays.
 

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The linebackers also ran themselves out of plays and lost contain too many times. The job of a defense is to stop the other teams from scoring. Counting stats don't mean a damn thing if the other team outscores your team by 28 points. We went into that game knowing the main focus of Philly is to run the ball. They ran for 187 and even took the foot off the gas for a quarter. The linebackers had good plays, but they also had too many bad plays.
That is not being objective...you'll never lead a football team and just complain a lot. Taking in nothing but scorn.

Those areas are included in a discussion as to their projection with direction. Want to take the bet and own up on coming production...step up. Let's go.
 
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