Which Head Coach that is available is better than Garrett right now?

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can't you say the same thing about Sean Mcvey? one year as OC and produced average offense. its not unprecedented...btw, during the 4 years as OC, he produced two top 5 offenses. Harbaugh was special teams coach and became head coach...the path you just described is pretty normal for a lot of head coaches...several years as OC, and then head coaching, so not sure why that's suprising...

Campo had Aikman for one year. couldn't find a QB in 3 years as head coach. and garrett got to playoffs. campo never even smelled playoffs.....

I can't believe you are defending campo..... you need therapy......

Are you really arguing with me over who is a better coach? They both stink buddy.

If I was GM I would hire neither. But I would take Campo over Garrett 10 out of 10 times.
 

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And I believe Garrett has been an integral part of that.

When did all of these better decisions in draft begin. 2011. When Jason and Will begun influencing Jethro and Son.

When McClay got here and S Jones started having more control over things.
 

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Are you really arguing with me over who is a better coach? They both stink buddy.

If I was GM I would hire neither. But I would take Campo over Garrett 10 out of 10 times.
The problem is Jerry needs aHC who can influence his GM decisions.

Like Bill said” you have to convince Jerry to go against his instincts”.

While Campo might have been a better X and O coach like Wade was they had horrid drafts which means had little influence over Jerry.

Jimmy , Bill and now Garrett have had the most influence with Jerry. And thus have built the best teams in Jerrys era.
 

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so in the same response you blame everything on jerry, yet you also blame garrett....your hatred towards garrett is personal, beyond and above a head coach and x's and o's

I hate Garrett because he is terrible. Its as simple as that. His coaching abilities are a complete disaster. What he was hired to do and the tasks he performs here for Dallas he is terrible at.
 

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The problem is Jerry needs aHC who can influence his GM decisions.

Like Bill said” you have to convince Jerry to go against his instincts”.

While Campo might have been a better X and O coach like Wade was they had horrid drafts which means had little influence over Jerry.

Jimmy , Bill and now Garrett have had the most influence with Jerry. And thus have built the best teams in Jerrys era.

Jimmy and bill actually built the teams. Garrett is a puppet and simply doenst do that here. Garrett has the least amount of control as any coach ever has here.

You nailed it, we need a coach here that Jerry respects and Jerry listens to. Garrett is NOT that guy. Garrett is the worst type of coach that Jerry needs. Its a horrid pairing. Then you factor in the part where Garrett is horrid on gameday and pushing the right buttons and you have the making of the worst coach in Cowboys history.

No say AND bad at being a football guy.
 

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I hate Garrett because he is terrible. Its as simple as that. His coaching abilities are a complete disaster. What he was hired to do and the tasks he performs here for Dallas he is terrible at.
This is a Red Flag for me as your not willing to see any of the positive influence Garrett has brought to the culture we have here now.

I think Garrett was hired to do much more and why I call him a walk around GM.
 

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Jimmy and bill actually built the teams. Garrett is a puppet and simply doenst do that here. Garrett has the least amount of control as any coach ever has here.

You nailed it, we need a coach here that Jerry respects and Jerry listens to. Garrett is NOT that guy. Garrett is the worst type of coach that Jerry needs. Its a horrid pairing. Then you factor in the part where Garrett is horrid on gameday and pushing the right buttons and you have the making of the worst coach in Cowboys history.

No say AND bad at being a football guy.
This is getting even more ridiculous now. Lol
 

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This is a Red Flag for me as your not willing to see any of the positive influence Garrett has brought to the culture we have here now.

I think Garrett was hired to do much more and why I call him a walk around GM.

The fact that you think Garrett is the GM here is about as far off base as you could be. Really, I have never hear anything so absurd. Its hard to talk to a guy that has something so completely wrong.
 

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This is a Red Flag for me as your not willing to see any of the positive influence Garrett has brought to the culture we have here now.

I think Garrett was hired to do much more and why I call him a walk around GM.

What culture are you talking about? The one where we fall apart anytime when a few of our big stars go down? The culture where we have more suspensions than any team in the NFL?

Really what culture are you talking about? What is so great about this culture? The culture where we have won 1 playoff game in 7 year under Garrett? The culture where he is 1-4 in win or go home games?

You said yourself that the situation in Dallas is completely dysfunctional. You also said you have no confidence that we can build a great team here.

LOL.......then you claim that Garrett the GM has done a great job building the team and that we have great culture.

My man you make absolutely no sense whatsoever.
 

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Are you making that up? Please show me any shred of evidence of that.
No, that’s what I believe. Will works closely with Garretts brother in scouting. Will has been a great addition .

The better culture begun when Garrett took over despite whatever your coaching criticism is.
 

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What culture are you talking about? The one where we fall apart anytime when a few of our big stars go down? The culture where we have more suspensions than any team in the NFL?

Really what culture are you talking about? What is so great about this culture? The culture where we have won 1 playoff game in 7 year under Garrett? The culture where he is 1-4 in win or go home games?

You said yourself that the situation in Dallas is completely dysfunctional. You also said you have no confidence that we can build a great team here.

LOL.......then you claim that Garrett the GM has done a great job building the team and that we have great culture.

My man you make absolutely no sense whatsoever.
The culture that you like the better drafts and decisions we’re making . Garrett is influencing these. And why I call him a walk around GM.

We didn’t see these better decisions until Garrett took over. That’s how I see it.

It’s not what we want. But it’s better. That provides me a glimmer of hope with Jerry.
 

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Now if you have someone in mind that you think Jerry would pursue I’m all ears?

Who???????
 

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No, that’s what I believe. Will works closely with Garretts brother in scouting. Will has been a great addition .

The better culture begun when Garrett took over despite whatever your coaching criticism is.

Ok, well you are totally and completely wrong. Garrett had nothing to do with hiring McClay.

And again..........what GREAT CULTURE are you talking about? Where is this great culture you are talking about?
 

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Ok, well you are totally and completely wrong. Garrett had nothing to do with hiring McClay.

And again..........what GREAT CULTURE are you talking about? Where is this great culture you are talking about?
I didn’t say had anything to do with hiring Will but influenced his greater role in scouting.

Didn’t say great culture . Said better culture than we had or could hope for with Jerry.
 

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The culture that you like the better drafts and decisions we’re making . Garrett is influencing these. And why I call him a walk around GM.

We didn’t see these better decisions until Garrett took over. That’s how I see it.

It’s not what we want. But it’s better. That provides me a glimmer of hope with Jerry.

Better drafts has nothing to do with culture. Garrett has little to do with the draft. He simply doesnt.

Culture is chemistry, culture is winning, culture is leadership and accountability from top to bottom.

the culture in Dallas is as you stated, totally and completely dysfunctional.
 

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I didn’t say had anything to do with hiring Will but influenced his greater role in scouting.

Didn’t say great culture . Said better culture than we had or could hope for with Jerry.

All BS aside, even though I dont agree with some of what you say, its been great bantering with you. Way to keep it real and keep it clean. :grin:
 
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