Which loss hurts you more - 2007 Giants, or Lambeau?

[ilykdrama]

And to all this "play better" stuff.....shut up. You played well enough to have the ball with the go ahead score with under 4 minutes left at Lambeau. Every team in the league would kill for that. We're the only team that lead the Packers at home in the first half all year. so dont give me that "should've played harder" b.s..

 

[PoundTheRock]

I think that's nonsense. "Play better" doesn't excuse a bad call at the end of the game.

Was it even a bad call? I hate to get into that, but it's more of a bad rule than anything else. At the end of the day the Cowboys just weren't good enough. The coach is not good enough, our players weren't sharp enough and our GM is not good enough.

 

[DallasEast]

Again, it doesn't get mentioned because Jacques Reeves always sucked. Should a book be written about how JJ Wilcox, who has displayed poor technique all season, displaying poor technique against the Packers?

Book? Of course not. There is not any need for exaggeration. And yes, omitting J.J. Wilcox's inability to tackle in the open field which led to a Packers' touchdown is worthy of conversation. There is little need for selective amnesia reminiscing about games.

 

[Risen Star]

Was it even a bad call?

Yes.

I hate to get into that, but it's more of a bad rule than anything else. At the end of the day the Cowboys just weren't good enough. The coach is not good enough, our players weren't sharp enough and our GM is not good enough.

Even under the bad rule it was a catch. Once you make a football move contact with the ground is irrelevant.

You can continue ranting about playing better. The Packers are a quality team. Particularly at home. The Cowboys played them tight and made a play at the end to put them into position to win. It was taken away from them.

 

[Staubacher]

And to all this "play better" stuff.....shut up. You played well enough to have the ball with the go ahead score with under 4 minutes left at Lambeau. Every team in the league would kill for that. We're the only team that lead the Packers at home in the first half all year. so dont give me that "should've played harder" b.s..

Yup. You can't look at a fumble (that was a good play by Peppers), a missed long FG on a crappy field, and a couple of plays that we didn't execute well as playing bad.

We played well enough to win in a place nobody has won in all season. We should have had a slight lead with 4 minutes left. We ran well, had good QB play, forced a turnover (almost 2), kept their score in the 20s when they average 38 at home, etc.

The bad call ruined the real decision of who should win in the last 4 minutes. I can regret our pass rush but other than that we didn't lose we were beat by the Packers and the NYC office of the NFL.

 

[PoundTheRock]

By this logic the Lions played well enough to beat the Cowboys (they didn't).

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Yes.



Even under the bad rule it was a catch. Once you make a football move contact with the ground is irrelevant.

You can continue ranting about playing better. The Packers are a quality team. Particularly at home. The Cowboys played them tight and made a play at the end to put them into position to win. It was taken away from them.

I am not sure why people don't get this? It was a bad call!!! even under the application of a really bad rule!!

 

[CF74]

For me @ 13-3 with HF adv throughout - Sloppy penalties , Crayton drops , cabotroversy - springboarding Eli Manning into SB run an mvp is something I'll never forget or forgive .
It crippled this chise until now.

The GB loss stings badly because GB was beatable and imo we kept Romo locked down, however we lost to a HOF QB who lit us up with rockets.

Lambeau and it's Not Even Close.. We was Robbed over Jealousy and Ignorance.....

 

[JoeBoBBY]

By this logic the Lions played well enough to beat the Cowboys (they didn't).

And everyone wants to keep bringing the the Lion call.....

The two calls aren't even close to being the same thing. Not even close to measuring out to having the same amount of an impact on the game. And not to mention are Bad Call was done by a replay booth weenie!!!!! It had to be reversed!! The only reason this gets mentioned is , it happened last week,....

 

[iRepDatStar]

In 07 I knew that we were the clear cut best team in the nfc. We had already swept the giants and beat green bay earlier that season so there was no doubt we would be in the super bowl

this sunday I honestly didnt think we were better or would beat Green bay. But during the game I thought to myself, man we are really playing with these boys and we are ahead. I felt like if we would of won sunday nothing else would of stopped us the way the past 6 weeks have been.

With all of that said I think this game hurt more only because I was so happy when Dez caught the ball and yes he caught the ball. Then when it got overturned I was so hurt

 

[speedkilz88]

Was it even a bad call? I hate to get into that, but it's more of a bad rule than anything else. At the end of the day the Cowboys just weren't good enough. The coach is not good enough, our players weren't sharp enough and our GM is not good enough.

It's been pointed out many, many times that they did not follow the proper rule. They ignored the rule for possession or ignored the fact that Dez made multiple football moves that made it a catch by definition of the rule.

 

[PoundTheRock]

Nobody even knows what a football move is, so you can save that.

 

[calico]

07 hurt more. I'm used to being let down the past 15 yrs with this team I don't let it affect me anymore. Just celebrate the highs. Ignore the lows. I saw this playoffs as a stepping stone to a Super Bowl next season. We were good enough to win this year but still young at the core and our mistakes cost us the win in the end. No time to cry over this loss just learn and use it as motivation for next season. Hopefully the players and coaches are on this page and don't let this loss ruin the off season.

 

[Vtwin]

This one and 94 were the closest I have ever come to losing my cool. 07 we got beat plain and simple, fair and square.

 

[speedkilz88]

Nobody even knows what a football move is, so you can save that.

Advancing the football - football move

Stretching out the ball for a first down or td - football move

Changing the ball from one hand to the other - football move

lunging off your last step towards the goal - yeah another football move

 

[PoundTheRock]

By your definition.

 

[speedkilz88]

By your definition.

No, most of them are what the refs have said themselves.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Nobody even knows what a football move is, so you can save that.

Well, apparently the NFL themselves cant figure it out either. ....lol!

You know once you get pass the pain of it all, it is kind of comical. Or maybe i am getting delirious at this point?

Its true though PoundTheRock. "Nobody even knows what a football move is"

thats classic.

 

[speedkilz88]

By your definition.

Rule 8, Section 1. Article 3 of the rule explains that a pass is completed when he secures control of the ball with his hands or arms, touches the ground with both feet or any other body part (other than his hands), and maintains control long enough to allow him to perform “any act common to the game,” which includes having the ball long enough to “pitch it, pass it, advance with it, or avoid or ward off an opponent.”

Jerry Markbreit
When a catch is made by a receiver who comes down with both feet on the ground, the "football move" would be: stretching for a first down, diving out-of-bounds or running with the ball. If the "football move" is accomplished, and the receiver is then hit and the ball comes out, it is ruled a catch and fumble, instead of an incomplete forward pass.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...41027jerrymarkbreitsanswers-story.html#page=1

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

There was only one team better than Dallas 07....New England. And we would already had played them. So revenge May have pushed us past them. Winning in Lambeau and Seattle in back to back weeks is a tall order
Having said that...this team is more likeable