While everyone is crying about the No-Call on Furgeson

Bagman

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This makes tackling a guy before the ball legal. Weird quirk in the rules and good on the Eagles taking advantage and their fans for pointing it out here
Kinda like Gilmore touching A.J. Brown with the ball in the air (and completely uncatchable) and they let Gilmore get away with it. Oh wait....... nevermind.
 

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That is never getting called ever. He did not even turn him or cause him to be falling. He was already falling to catch the pass.
This is the correct response. So many posters complaining about "obvious DPI" where it was clearly not "obvious" to everyone and the TE was diving for the ball with the defender on his back. Run a route a foot deeper, get a better pick from the partner in the pick and it's a TD.
 

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He avoided the rub on the CB which was his first and only task on this play.

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Seriously watch the play: He not only didnt rub the CB. I mean he had the chance and you can see he avoids the contact consciously.
I couldnt believe my eyes. The guy must be freaking stupid. I cant explain it else.
Avoid how? He ran exactly as CD did.

The difference is, the defender on Ferguson's side went underneath. The guy on Lamb's side hesistated then tried to go over the top and ran into Lamb.

Both Lamb and Ferguson ran toward the defender and then break upfield at the end. They did the exact same thing. Neither can initiate contact, so they can't just run into them. But Ferguson cannot control the defender and if he chooses to go high or low.

It's the defender who goes into Lamb, not the other way around. So, bow does Ferguson make the defender play it as poorly as the guy on the other side?
 

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Avoid how? He ran exactly as CD did.

The difference is, the defender on Ferguson's side went underneath. The guy on Lamb's side hesistated then tried to go over the top and ran into Lamb.

Both Lamb and Ferguson ran toward the defender and then break upfield at the end. They did the exact same thing. Neither can initiate contact, so they can't just run into them. But Ferguson cannot control the defender and if he chooses to go high or low.

It's the defender who goes into Lamb, not the other way around. So, bow does Ferguson make the defender play it as poorly as the guy on the other side?
Did you watch the play ? You can see how Ferg pulls his shoulder inside and makes himself slim to avoid contact with the CB. Lamb blocked his guy and the other CB like it was a run play.

And whatever Lamb did or how he executed his play it doesnt make Fergs mistake any better.

Come on man!

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/dak-missed-open-receivers-on-two-biggest-plays.516661/#post-13099572


Seriously we dont need to discuss such obvious things.
 

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This was happening on the other side.


Yes it was pass interference. But, great teams beat the refs and the opponent. Would you be putting the ball up in the air that many times inside the 10 with Zeke 12 rushing TDs still on the roster?

Jerry Dumbo GM Jones.
 

Kevinicus

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Did you watch the play ? You can see how Ferg pulls his shoulder inside and makes himself slim to avoid contact with the CB. Lamb blocked his guy and the other CB like it was a run play.

And whatever Lamb did or how he executed his play it doesnt make Fergs mistake any better.

Come on man!

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/dak-missed-open-receivers-on-two-biggest-plays.516661/#post-13099572


Seriously we dont need to discuss such obvious things.
That is not an accurate description.

You are crediting Lamb for the actions of the defender.

What you're trying to describe is OPI.
 

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That is not an accurate description.

You are crediting Lamb for the actions of the defender.

What you're trying to describe is OPI.
PI is only called when the ball is in the air. Which it wasnt.

But anyways... Your answer is OT. Lamb was never the point of the discussion.
 

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Can't get on Dak for that. Schoon was the first look and with a blitz coming, he never had a chance to come back and look for Cooks.
 

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You read the defense pre-snap. If it is a 7-man pressure, ball comes out right away.

You don't know what you're talking about.
you read the defense pre & post snap. not sure what point you are trying to make but the QB has to do both. even more so when you are near the goal line. with less space to defend, defensive alignment pre snap doesn't necessarily tell you where they will be post snap.
 

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you read the defense pre & post snap. not sure what point you are trying to make but the QB has to do both. even more so when you are near the goal line. with less space to defend, defensive alignment pre snap doesn't necessarily tell you where they will be post snap.
Not against an unblocked blitzer lol
 

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Notice also on that play that Dak flat out just locked in on Schoonmaker,
he did lock in. it was a bang bang play. although the play was there to be had. except schoon is a rookie and he made a mistake. perhaps schoon and fergi should have switched roles.
 

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Too many important plays went to guys not named Lamb, Cooks, or Ferguson last night
This. I get that he's trying to bring everyone along, but in crunch time you gotta use your aces.
 

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PI is only called when the ball is in the air. Which it wasnt.

But anyways... Your answer is OT. Lamb was never the point of the discussion.
Wut? Totally inaccurate.

Illegal rubs are OPI whether or not the ball has been thrown already or not.

Lamb has always 100% been part of the discussion. The entire thread, and the tweet it's based on, is about what Ferguson/Lamb supposedly did differently.
You claimed Lamb was blocking two guys.
This place gets crazier every day.
 

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sure you do. no one says its easy but that's life as a QB. especially at the NFL level.
No you don't lol. It's called a hot read. They are a staple in every offense.

Like it's just total nonsense to expect that Dak was going to come off of the left and get all the way to the right. It would have been a sack.
 

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Too many important plays went to guys not named Lamb, Cooks, or Ferguson last night
You throw to the open guy not a player who’s covered. On that play the pressure forced a quick throw and Shoon was open. Had he not been tackled before the ball got there it’s an easy score
 

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But the play worked lol. The execution was bad.

I think that's the point. The execution by the rookie was bad. Ferguson may of had enough "experience" to run the route 6" further and have both legs(knees) in the end zone as the ball crosses the line.
 

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If Dak is gonna work on anything, I think he needs to works on scanning more of the field. Seems to be an ongoing thing lately
 

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Can't get on Dak for that. Schoon was the first look and with a blitz coming, he never had a chance to come back and look for Cooks.
That's what $50M QB's are supposed to do. Instead Dak gets locked into where he wants to go with the ball pre-snap.

He did the same thing on 4th down when Ferg was running wide open right in the middle of the field.

He does this several times a game.
 

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No you don't lol. It's called a hot read. They are a staple in every offense.

Like it's just total nonsense to expect that Dak was going to come off of the left and get all the way to the right. It would have been a sack.
Never said he would. In fact, I have said the same thing as you in regards to this particular play. I simply responded to your comment about there are only pre-snap reads.
 
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