White or Woods

timb2 said:
I rather have Blanton start and us stop hoping and wishing rainbows and gummie bears that Jeff Heath is going to pan out.CUT HEATH!!!...He is going to be a weak link and big plays will expose him as nothing more than a special teams player. Heath is great if you can let him sit back as the centerfielder in the dime package where he doesn't have to cover anyone... Keep both White & Woods but I already know this won't happen. We will have to go through watching Heath look like a bum this season.
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Blanton is the worst DB we have on the roster. I rather you start then Blanton
 
Irvin88_4life said:
I disagree with you. I'm not saying something I think someone said. I seen White sticking his head in to tackle, I don't need to think I heard someone say it. Now you can stay with your line of thinking but I disagree and that's OK too. You have a great knowledge of the game but I think you have missed on White.
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White did shy away from contact in college. It was not to the extreme of Mike Jenkins, but it was his tendency.

I would like to find a way to keep him and not expose him to waivers, but it's going to be really difficult.

The only way I see it happening (other than injuries) is for them to consider Awuzie one of the Safeties.

I don't remember then starting a season with 6 true CBs.
 
xwalker said:
White did shy away from contact in college. It was not to the extreme of Mike Jenkins, but it was his tendency.

I would like to find a way to keep him and not expose him to waivers, but it's going to be really difficult.

The only way I see it happening (other than injuries) is for them to consider Awuzie one of the Safeties.

I don't remember then starting a season with 6 true CBs.
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Mike Jenkins hit a dude do hard it almost killed him or did I can't remember.......in college
 
xwalker said:
White did shy away from contact in college. It was not to the extreme of Mike Jenkins, but it was his tendency.

I would like to find a way to keep him and not expose him to waivers, but it's going to be really difficult.

The only way I see it happening (other than injuries) is for them to consider Awuzie one of the Safeties.

I don't remember then starting a season with 6 true CBs.
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2008 we carried 7 CBs. That being said we carry 10 DBs almost every year, having 6 corners and 4 safeties gives us that 10. Besides just because we didn't have a certain number of players 1 year at a position doesn't keep us from doing it this year.

We carried 2 kickers should we do that again? No. You go with the best players and Woods is a lock period. That leaves the last spot for Blanton or White. Say what you will be White is the better player right now and has huge upside, were Blanton is older and not as good with no upside.
 
FuzzyLumpkins said:
Heath did that. Jenkins was notorious for business decisions.

White did the same at FSU and was doing it in the 3rd quarter last week.
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Heath did what? Maybe you should research what Mike Jenkins did in college bro.

I'm not talking about the hit Heath put on Lockett from Seattle
 
Irvin88_4life said:
Heath did what? Maybe you should research what Mike Jenkins did in college bro.

I'm not talking about the hit Heath put on Lockett from Seattle
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Your assertion your proof, holmes. You said yourself you couldn't remember.

Must improve his upper-body strength, as he lacks pop on contact and is not really a solid wrap-up tackler (more of a collision-type tackler and ballcarriers can escape when he takes a side...Tends to sit back and wait for the play to come to him rather than get in an opponent's face and initiate contact...
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http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/mike-jenkins?id=1583

White had a reputation as a bad tackler coming out of college:

Needs to improve significantly as a tackler. Missed 22.7 percent of the solo tackles he attempted over the past three seasons.
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https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...ting-report-on-sixth-round-pick-marquez-white

And let's be clear, I watched each play in that game 3 or 4 times and I was not looking forward to it going in. White really was not on my radar in the draft. It just jumped out at me. I started looking for it then and he did improve but he was just wildly throwing at people.

The adage is that it is easier to rein in aggression than it is to encourage it and he is on the wrong side of it.
 
FuzzyLumpkins said:


Your assertion your proof, holmes. You said yourself you couldn't remember.



http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/mike-jenkins?id=1583

White had a reputation as a bad tackler coming out of college:



https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...ting-report-on-sixth-round-pick-marquez-white

And let's be clear, I watched each play in that game 3 or 4 times and I was not looking forward to it going in. White really was not on my radar in the draft. It just jumped out at me. I started looking for it then and he did improve but he was just wildly throwing at people.

The adage is that it is easier to rein in aggression than it is to encourage it and he is on the wrong side of it.
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Maybe you can't read i said it wasn't the hit that Heath put on Lockett..........it was Mike Jenkins from college that laid the hit on the guy. What I couldn't remember was if it killed the guy or not. Mike Jenkins talked about it in interviews before but keep on about Heath if you want. Just shows maybe you aren't comprehending, perhaps only what you want to
 
Irvin88_4life said:
Maybe you can't read i said it wasn't the hit that Heath put on Lockett..........it was Mike Jenkins from college that laid the hit on the guy. What I couldn't remember was if it killed the guy or not. Mike Jenkins talked about it in interviews before but keep on about Heath if you want. Just shows maybe you aren't comprehending, perhaps only what you want to
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So you are not going to provide any proof. I actually poked around looking for something from his time at south florida and nothing.

Anywho, I got that you were saying Jenkins did it. I was saying that Heath did and Jenkins did not.
 
FuzzyLumpkins said:


Your assertion your proof, holmes. You said yourself you couldn't remember.



http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/mike-jenkins?id=1583

White had a reputation as a bad tackler coming out of college:



https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...ting-report-on-sixth-round-pick-marquez-white

And let's be clear, I watched each play in that game 3 or 4 times and I was not looking forward to it going in. White really was not on my radar in the draft. It just jumped out at me. I started looking for it then and he did improve but he was just wildly throwing at people.

The adage is that it is easier to rein in aggression than it is to encourage it and he is on the wrong side of it.
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By the way it says in his scouting report that you posted, he missed tackles or took bad angles. Didn't see where it said runs from contact or allow others to tackle.

I never said he was the best tackler I actually said he needs more improvement but the willingness is there.
I watched the game too and I seen him trying to tackle. You can see what you want and not like the player but he will make this roster
 
If they are planning on using Jones in the slot going forward, I would prefer they keep Woods
 
Irvin88_4life said:
2008 we carried 7 CBs. That being said we carry 10 DBs almost every year, having 6 corners and 4 safeties gives us that 10. Besides just because we didn't have a certain number of players 1 year at a position doesn't keep us from doing it this year.

We carried 2 kickers should we do that again? No. You go with the best players and Woods is a lock period. That leaves the last spot for Blanton or White. Say what you will be White is the better player right now and has huge upside, were Blanton is older and not as good with no upside.
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6 CBs in 2008

Neither Woods or White are locks.

You've barely seen them this preseason.
 
Like others have mentioned, failing to see how Blanton is a lock. He was a late April, insurance signing so they didn't have to reach for a safety in the draft.
 
If Barry Church(4.67 forty yard dash) can start over Heath than Blanton should be able. I'd rather chance it with Blanton and let Woods,White Frazier,or Awuzie grow and take over then watch Heath did what he did in that HOF game. Strong safety who wants to ankle bite for tackles and pile inspect. NO THANKS!! I'm telling you Jimmy Graham and Calvin Johnson both exposed Heath years ago that he is not starting material.. Heath is Lynn Scott in another uniform.
 
timb2 said:
If Barry Church(4.67 forty yard dash) can start over Heath than Blanton should be able. I'd rather chance it with Blanton and let Woods,White Frazier,or Awuzie grow and take over then watch Heath did what he did in that HOF game. Strong safety who wants to ankle bite for tackles. NO THANKS!! I'm telling you Jimmy Graham and Calvin Johnson both exposed Heath years ago that he is not starting material.
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Well, that settles it. A possible HOF receiver, in his prime, exposed a rookie D-2 safety, 4 years ago. Why can't the coaches see that film from 4 years ago and see Heath isn't worth trying as a starter now! I mean, players can't progress or develop better anticipation! It's a fact! In Madden it's hard to improve Heath so he sucks.

Ugh, and one of the more explosive and taller Tight ends in the league also exposed Heath? Holy hell Jerry, *** ARE YOU DOING!!???
I mean, real starting players shut down those bums.
 
John813 said:
Well, that settles it. A possible HOF receiver, in his prime, exposed a rookie D-2 safety, 4 years ago. Why can't the coaches see that film from 4 years ago and see Heath isn't worth trying as a starter now! I mean, players can't progress or develop better anticipation! It's a fact! In Madden it's hard to improve Heath so he sucks.

Ugh, and one of the more explosive and taller Tight ends in the league also exposed Heath? Holy hell Jerry, *** ARE YOU DOING!!???
I mean, real starting players shut down those bums.
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Yeah Jordan Reed and that Giants Evan Engram rookie are going to smoke him. We better get a better strong safety in here because Heath looked like crap in the HOF game and that was backups he played againist.
 
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