News: Whitlock 160 Million was a mistake

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Winning is overrated, if I'm Dak I'm taking the money all the way, only fans care about winning and get all crazy about not winning.
Money>Winning

That is definitely the mentality of today's players. But, it wasn't always like that.
The ones that did care about the money (Deion was one) still cared about winning
and being the best.

They didn't get the top dollar contract then totally suck like players now.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

They didn't get the top dollar contract then totally suck like players now.

Yes. I am sure that there was not a single bad contract given out in the 90s and that football players born after the year 1990 magically lost their desire to win.

 

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Would you take a pay cut so your employer could hire a slightly better coworker and improve the company?

If I was playing football... my goal would be to get a ring. That is the achievement of a lifetime.
If I am already making $20mil a year, but I could be making $25... but that $5mil would give me a better chance of getting to the ring... damn right I would give up the $5mil.

 

[zerofill]

Yes. I am sure that there was not a single bad contract given out in the 90s and that football players born after the year 1990 magically lost their desire to win.

Not like they do now... 85% chance once they get top dollar they suck.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

If I was playing football... my goal would be to get a ring. That is the achievement of a lifetime.
If I am already making $20mil a year, but I could be making $25... but that $5mil would give me a better chance of getting to the ring... damn right I would give up the $5mil.

Agree to disagree. NFL careers are very short and a single injury can spell your doom no matter how good you are. Most of these guys really don't have great options after football outside the few that are marketable as analysts or had the foresight to build out their own business venture. Many also come from rather disadvantaged backgrounds and would probably like to be able to take care of their families.

I will never blame a player for accepting money that a GM is willing to hand out. You cannot run an economy (or any business venture) on goodwill.

 

[zerofill]

Agree to disagree. NFL careers are very short and a single injury can spell your doom no matter how good you are. Most of these guys really don't have great options after football outside the few that are marketable as analysts or had the foresight to build out their own business venture. Many also come from rather disadvantaged backgrounds and would probably like to be able to take care of their families.

I will never blame a player for accepting money that a GM is willing to hand out. You cannot run an economy (or any business venture) on goodwill.

Don't get me wrong... I am all for getting paid. I would just like to get paid as much as possible while still having talent around me. (Especially if I am not that talented lol)

Granted you have agents, taxes, and other things to take into account.

Different world now as well...

 

[beware_d-ware]

That's unfortunately just what QBs cost these days. Kirk Cousins is in that Dak zone where he basically plays to the sum of the parts around him, and he got $35M/yr. The Cardinals spent $45M/yr on Kyler Murray, and they don't even trust him to study film for 5 hours a week. I can't begrudge Dallas on the Dak contract.

 

[SiCk_DiAbLo]

Dak knew from teammates that Jerry will overpay, Jerry fell for again and paid. Just look at the last big signings by Jerry, Lawrence, Zeke, Amare, he's gone, what have they done? Just cash that check is all...

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

What more did you want last year? My goodness you are delusional.

So you are talking bad about me while defending the front office that hasn't made it to the championship game in 26 years?

I offer you those 26 years as proof that they don't know what they're doing? Now what proof do you have that I'm delusional?

And what more did I want last year? Well I wanted them to build a defense that can stand up against the run. But I've been wanting that for a couple of years prior to last year. When we get into the playoffs, teams run all over us. So what's delusional about wanting a defense that can stand up against the run?

I'll wait...

 

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https://www.theblaze.com/fearless/oped/whitlock-dak-prescott-contract-mistake

Dallas’ $40-million-a-year quarterback is worth half as much as Brady but is paid twice as much as the seven-time Super Bowl champion. At age 45 and entering his 23rd season, Brady charged the Bucs $15 million this season for his services.

Good read. Dak was never worth this contract. Jerry was bidding against no-one and way overpaid for a QB that is at best average and coming off a big injury.

This is all revisionist history and irrelevant now. I remember the banter on this board and most thought that THAT contract was ridiculous for a maybe 7th-8th ranked QB in the league. I know I did. (don't throw out his yards stats to me... what are his W/L records in big games and his playoff winning %) Jones was hoping against hope that if you pay Dak like a 1-2 top QB in this league then maybe he will play like a 1-2 QB in this league. It is all projection. The Jones knuckleheads are like the proverbial broken clock... you know the rest.

 

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Winning is overrated, if I'm Dak I'm taking the money all the way, only fans care about winning and get all crazy about not winning.
Money>Winning

Spot on and most would. This is a business and most of these NFL'ers have very short careers. What else can they do when they retire? Go into the broadcast booth? Most do not have that skill set. At some point, the fans must realize that these players do not share the same passion as we fans have when they pull on that shirt in the dressing room on game days. It is our escape and bragging rights. If your team wins on Sunday, you can glide into the office on Monday morning and gloat around the breakroom. For these players... yes, it's nice to win but at the end of the day, it is the paycheck they play for. They are simply (Entertainers) employees. If you could time travel back to the 1970s, before FA, the money was minuscule as compared to today. 90% of players played their entire career with the same club. Trades occurred but it was rare. Cowboys vs Washington (always on Thanksgiving) was epic during that time. The players hated the rival as much as the fans did.

 

[Brax]

Brady hs a wife worth more than him and he has played almost as long as Dak has been alive.

Just sayin'

The old wife BS.

 

[atlantacowboy]

https://www.theblaze.com/fearless/oped/whitlock-dak-prescott-contract-mistake

Dallas’ $40-million-a-year quarterback is worth half as much as Brady but is paid twice as much as the seven-time Super Bowl champion. At age 45 and entering his 23rd season, Brady charged the Bucs $15 million this season for his services.

Good read. Dak was never worth this contract. Jerry was bidding against no-one and way overpaid for a QB that is at best average and coming off a big injury.

I think many people on here are kinda like Jerry. They get their hopes and dreams confused with reality. The reality is that Dak was rarely ever good against good teams, thrived in garbage time, and required a ton of talent and protection around him to look good. He was never who we so desperately wanted him to be.

I guarantee if he had not got hurt with 7 minutes or so left in the game, he would have put up 150 yards against Tampa's prevent defense and thrown a TD to make the game look closer than it actually was and make him look like he played a decent game on paper. He is the master of garbage time and it has fooled many who just look at numbers without context.

We should have traded him or let him walk. You can get guys like him in free agency for nothing most off seasons. Just look at Geno Smith in Seattle.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Not unfair if you make more than Brady.

how many more QBs make more than Brady? they all fail compared to Brady.

and Brady is different. he is the exception. his wife makes 10 times his money and all he cared about was getting another ring. he is almost the only one who has taken that route. plus he has been at it for 25+ years. comparing anyone to brady....they will fail.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You asked a question so I'll answer it from my perspective. Brady is the greatest individual player AND team player ever. Many young, really unproven QB's are getting insane salaries while Brady takes a third of their salaries... and wins. He understands it takes a team to win the SB. Green Bay may never recover from AR's salary while Tampa is blowing and going.

on the surface that amybe true. but for cowboys, we had 25M on the cap...and we could have easily made it 40M and signed whomever we wanted. we could have signed Miller and kept cooper and we chose not to.

the same is true for most other teams.

Brady is the exception, not the rule in the NFL. we probably will never ever see a QB with 7 rings and 10 SB appearances.

comparing any QB to Brady is unfair to Brady and unfair to those QBs.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

The only people that rooted for Dak to get a contract like that were Cowboy haters that wanted to guarantee the Cowboys would have no success.

 

[Rayman70]

Dak is streaky. Always has been. Not sure it was a mistake signing him or MAYBE the play calling and the fact he has 0 help offensively in the wr room is the core issue.I think its a mixture of all the above.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Dak is streaky. Always has been. Not sure it was a mistake signing him or MAYBE the play calling and the fact he has 0 help offensively in the wr room is the core issue.I think its a mixture of all the above.

We were making the play calling excuse during the Scott Linehan era. At some point, its the player. Dak is not streaky. He just plays well against bad defenses. When you look at him outside the NFC East against good teams, the number drop-off is precipitous.....like off a cliff.

 

[Cmac]

I like Whitlock, but he is out of touch on this one. The bigger issue is jerry was sold on Dak as a franchise QB and waked the deal in himself.

Let's just be real......Whitlock trying to be a shock jock. And he is generally out of touch on a lot of things. Says non-sensical, illogical and irrational all rolled into one. He mad at his ownself and needs help.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

The only people that rooted for Dak to get a contract like that were Cowboy haters that wanted to guarantee the Cowboys would have no success.

Please reconsider your new profile photo.......hurts the eyes of the innocent if you know what I mean.