Who here likes NFL parity???

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I like parity because it keeps the teams I hate from being on top to long.
 

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Pats Fan;1446430 said:
I would like to see a game between the Pats at their best and the Boys at their best.


As a Pats fan, no, you don't want to see said game.

The 1992-1993 Dallas Cowboys were the best team in NFL history. Period. They went on the road and beat a 49ers team that would have easily won the SB any year in the last decade, then went on to slaughter a team in the Buffalo Bills that would also have walked away with any SB title since 1997.

Troy Aikman
Emmitt Smith
Moose Johnston
Michael Irvin
Arguably the best offensive line ever
Jay Novacheck
Charles Haley
Kevin Smith
Ken Norton Jr.

The list goes on and on. The Patriots system would get dismantled by the Cowboys overwhelming talent. The game would be the equivalent of the Colts playing the Raiders next year, over by halftime.
 

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Parity sucks.

It's a nice buzz word for mediocrity.

I miss the days where there was a clear cut favorite going into each season. I miss the days when there were dynasties and teams loaded up with what they felt they needed to bump off the favorites.

This brand of football is not for the purist; it's for the average fleeting fan.

The idea is to make every team "competitive" so that people who wouldn't normally be interested in their team, become fans.

And ultimately, that's about $$$

Much as I hated the Packers in the 60's, I found it very enjoyable to try to bump them off.

Now, we have teams make the superbowl and stink the next season.

To me, in this way, football has become like boxing with a half dozen different champions for each division. It's just waters things down.
 

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Juke99;1446567 said:
Parity sucks.

It's a nice buzz word for mediocrity.

I miss the days where there was a clear cut favorite going into each season. I miss the days when there were dynasties and teams loaded up with what they felt they needed to bump off the favorites.

This brand of football is not for the purist; it's for the average fleeting fan.

The idea is to make every team "competitive" so that people who wouldn't normally be interested in their team, become fans.

And ultimately, that's about $$$

Much as I hated the Packers in the 60's, I found it very enjoyable to try to bump them off.

Now, we have teams make the superbowl and stink the next season.

To me, in this way, football has become like boxing with a half dozen different champions for each division. It's just waters things down.

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IMO, Parity is the worst thing to ever happen to the NFL.

I'm sorry, but when the freaking Saints are able to make the NFC Championship game and the Seahawks are able to make the SB, it's time to re-evaluate your league's policy on player movement.

The NFL just doesnt feel quite right without the Saints picking in the top 5 every year
 

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Juke99;1446567 said:
Parity sucks.

It's a nice buzz word for mediocrity.

I miss the days where there was a clear cut favorite going into each season. I miss the days when there were dynasties and teams loaded up with what they felt they needed to bump off the favorites.

This brand of football is not for the purist; it's for the average fleeting fan.

The idea is to make every team "competitive" so that people who wouldn't normally be interested in their team, become fans.

And ultimately, that's about $$$

Much as I hated the Packers in the 60's, I found it very enjoyable to try to bump them off.

Now, we have teams make the superbowl and stink the next season.

To me, in this way, football has become like boxing with a half dozen different champions for each division. It's just waters things down.

This coming from a Cowboys fan is not surprising. Its just like the Yankees fans who dont want revenue sharing or a salary cap in baseball.

juke you liked it because often times we were the clear cut favorite that you speak of. Had we been the Colts or the Rams or Green Bay or any other small market team that was consistently bad i would think you sing a different tune.

You call it watered down but i actually watch other football games other than Cowboys games now with regularity because more often than not they are good games. I mean its fun to watch us beatdown the Cardinals twice every year but just like we didnt tune in to watch the 49ers pummell the Rams and the Saints over and over again noone else wants to see it.

Regardless I think that the Pats were able to be so successful in this era because they learned how to play the cap early and reaped rewards while teams like ourselves and the 49ers were killing ourselves with bad contractst o try and prop up againg rosters. other teams mostly in the AFC have done like NE in Indy and the Ravens.

i still think that you can build a team that can have longevity its just going to be done with smarts and not with the cash cow that is a big market.
 

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Had we been the Colts or the Rams or Green Bay or any other small market team that was consistently bad i would think you sing a different tune.

Wow, shows how much you know about NFL history :lmao2:

Green Bay won 13 divison titles, won 2 Super Bowls and won 9 NFL championships

The Rams won 10 divison titles, made 7 NFC title game appearences and a Super Bowl appearence

The Colts won 7 divison titles, won a Super Bowl and won 3 NFL championships

All this before the age of parity began in 1994
 

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but just like we didnt tune in to watch the 49ers pummell the Rams and the Saints over and over again noone else wants to see it.

Um, yes we did

I long for the days of coming home from church at around 12:15, turning to the early game and seeing SF up on New Orleans by 3 scores already

The years from 1992-1995, when you knew every eyar that the 2 best teams were Dallas and SF, were FUN. Waiting all year for the anticipated matchup in the NFC title game was just great.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1446625 said:
This coming from a Cowboys fan is not surprising. Its just like the Yankees fans who dont want revenue sharing or a salary cap in baseball.

juke you liked it because often times we were the clear cut favorite that you speak of. Had we been the Colts or the Rams or Green Bay or any other small market team that was consistently bad i would think you sing a different tune.

You call it watered down but i actually watch other football games other than Cowboys games now with regularity because more often than not they are good games. I mean its fun to watch us beatdown the Cardinals twice every year but just like we didnt tune in to watch the 49ers pummell the Rams and the Saints over and over again noone else wants to see it.

Regardless I think that the Pats were able to be so successful in this era because they learned how to play the cap early and reaped rewards while teams like ourselves and the 49ers were killing ourselves with bad contractst o try and prop up againg rosters. other teams mostly in the AFC have done like NE in Indy and the Ravens.

i still think that you can build a team that can have longevity its just going to be done with smarts and not with the cash cow that is a big market.



I am a Yankees fan and I think its ridiculous to see what they've done with their spending...and in fact, it's made it more difficult to be a fan. I am no where near the fan I used to be.

When I was first a Cowboy's fan they lost...often...and always in the big game. The Cowboys were anything BUT the team to beat.

I think the NFL game, as it is, is structured to capture the $$$ of the borderline fan.

I can't even begin to tell you how many people in my office became Jet's fans last year...who didn't even know that NY had another team the year before...and who will forget about the Jets if they lose next year.

For me, that's a watered down product because the entire intent is to capture the marginal fan. And in order to do so, the NFL has constructed a rule system that creates fake contenders, every year.
 

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Juke99;1446647 said:
I am a Yankees fan and I think its ridiculous to see what they've done with their spending...and in fact, it's made it more difficult to be a fan. I am no where near the fan I used to be.

When I was first a Cowboy's fan they lost...often...and always in the big game. The Cowboys were anything BUT the team to beat.

I think the NFL game, as it is, is structured to capture the $$$ of the borderline fan.

I can't even begin to tell you how many people in my office became Jet's fans last year...who didn't even know that NY had another team the year before...and who will forget about the Jets if they lose next year.

For me, that's a watered down product because the entire intent is to capture the marginal fan. And in order to do so, the NFL has constructed a rule system that creates fake contenders, every year.

Which is why we will never again see games like the 1993 NFL title game at Candlestick. Every single soul at that game was a PASSIONATE fan.
 

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Juke99;1446567 said:
Parity sucks.

It's a nice buzz word for mediocrity.

I miss the days where there was a clear cut favorite going into each season. I miss the days when there were dynasties and teams loaded up with what they felt they needed to bump off the favorites.

This brand of football is not for the purist; it's for the average fleeting fan.

The idea is to make every team "competitive" so that people who wouldn't normally be interested in their team, become fans.

And ultimately, that's about $$$

Much as I hated the Packers in the 60's, I found it very enjoyable to try to bump them off.

Now, we have teams make the superbowl and stink the next season.

To me, in this way, football has become like boxing with a half dozen different champions for each division. It's just waters things down.

Amen brother. Well said. Interesting there are so many who are too young as to have a clue how the game was really played, coached, and managed.
 

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screw parity. give me 20 straight winning seasons. i dont care
if every other team is 0-16 ( impossible i know).
i just want the Boys to win..every time, all the time.
 

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HeavyHitta31;1446654 said:
Which is why we will never again see games like the 1993 NFL title game at Candlestick. Every single soul at that game was a PASSIONATE fan.

I always cite the Colts vs Jets super bowl game as an example.

It is considered one of the great games of all time. Why? Because an underdog, a SERIOUS underdog, pulled off a dramatic win.

I remember watching that game glued to the TV set.

So yep, I agree with your assessment.
 

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TheProphet;1446657 said:
Amen brother. Well said. Interesting there are so many who are too young as to have a clue how the game was really played, coached, and managed.

That might be part of it. I think we all fall victim to our frame of reference.
 

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Juke99;1446647 said:
I am a Yankees fan and I think its ridiculous to see what they've done with their spending...and in fact, it's made it more difficult to be a fan. I am no where near the fan I used to be.

When I was first a Cowboy's fan they lost...often...and always in the big game. The Cowboys were anything BUT the team to beat.

I think the NFL game, as it is, is structured to capture the $$$ of the borderline fan.

I can't even begin to tell you how many people in my office became Jet's fans last year...who didn't even know that NY had another team the year before...and who will forget about the Jets if they lose next year.

For me, that's a watered down product because the entire intent is to capture the marginal fan. And in order to do so, the NFL has constructed a rule system that creates fake contenders, every year.

I think your mistaking longevity as a fan to being a diehard fan. People were still getting on the bandwagon back then its just that they didnt have to hop off because the team kept winning.

look no farther than the ninties when we had our last dynasty and all the teams of people lined up across the country cheering for our team. at least us guys that lasted through the campo years can say we were real fans. it doesnt capture the marginal fan it simply exposes them.

Personally i could care less if people switch teams like they do their underwear. that doesnt stop me from enjoying the typical NFL game now.

and whats this with fake contenders? just becasue street and smith cannot predict the outcome, the teams winning games are not for real? the games in this past playoff were simply amazing. Our game as well as Pats-Indy CHicago-Seachicken Eagles-Saints Pats-Chargers games were just some fun football to watch. Better than watching teams going through the motions on the way to the conference championship.
 

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Juke99;1446666 said:
I always cite the Colts vs Jets super bowl game as an example.

It is considered one of the great games of all time. Why? Because an underdog, a SERIOUS underdog, pulled off a dramatic win.

I remember watching that game glued to the TV set.

So yep, I agree with your assessment.

Exactly

There are no such things as "huge" upsets in the NFL anymore.

Last year, the Colts lost to the Houston Texans

Back in the days of parity, a loss like that occured to elite title contenders MAYBE once every 4 or 5 years. Everyone looked in the paper the next morning and went "HOLY CRAP!!!" Now, every single SB champion loses at least one or two games like that a year.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1446672 said:
and whats this with fake contenders? just becasue street and smith cannot predict the outcome, the teams winning games are not for real? the games in this past playoff were simply amazing. Our game as well as Pats-Indy CHicago-Seachicken Eagles-Saints Pats-Chargers games were just some fun football to watch. Better than watching teams going through the motions on the way to the conference championship.

That's just the thing though, they WERENT fun to watch. Today's NFL is very relative.

That Cowboys/Seahawks game, while entertaining, was not good football, not even decent football. I miss the days of two heavyweights showing up with their best games and slugging it out for 60 minutes.

Do not mistake league-wide mediocrity and nail biting finishes for good football.
 

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HeavyHitta31;1446674 said:
Exactly

There are no such things as "huge" upsets in the NFL anymore.

Last year, the Colts lost to the Houston Texans

Back in the days of parity, a loss like that occured to elite title contenders MAYBE once every 4 or 5 years. Everyone looked in the paper the next morning and went "HOLY CRAP!!!" Now, every single SB champion loses at least one or two games like that a year.

So 1/5 of the time you get a great game and 4/5 of the time you get a horrible game. Before the 1999 superbowl i really never liked watching the SB because it was always godawful boring.
 
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