Who hits the hardest? Sean Taylor or Roy Williams

[big dog cowboy]

Sean Taylor

what a shock.

 

[superpunk]

Then again, you don't see Sean Taylor pulling down from behind even though he's forced into coverage.

Sure you do.

Good second question though, and my outlook on this is he had it hanging over his head all last season, right? If anything, an unresolved court case would affect his play more then a resolved one, so if anything, we should see an improvement on the mental aspect. If it did affect him, we will probably see a better Taylor. But I don't think it did so we should see the normal progression of a second into third year player.

Lord knows it helped Jamal Lewis.

 

[firehawk350]

:dissskin:


I got 3 hits for you

Shaun Alexander
Lav Coles
SF return guy

All you have is a no pro bowl gun carrying spitter.

Your profile says you live in america, and the FL courts seemed to think Taylor didn't have a gun. So, I would go on a limb and call you either un-american or a liar. Your call.
I've got plenty of hits.
Priest Holmes
TO
Randy Moss
Terry Glenn
Patrick Crayton
AZ RB
Tatum Bell

And pro bowls are a popularity contest. Or do you think Mike Vick is really the best QB in the NFC (2005)?

 

[MONT17]

Or we can ask Terry Glenn or Randy Moss. Hell, ask TO. Yes, Roy Williams broke his leg, but that wasn't because it was a monster hit. It was because it was a horse-collar tackle. In all fairness, it wasn't illegal at the time, but the point being it wasn't a hard tackle. Just ackward. You can ask the Cards RB too, he ducked (on 4th and 2 with the game on the line no less) avoid a Taylor hit as opposed to fight for the yards and the game.
Or let's turn it around, and ask Santana Moss. Has Roy ever been close enough to hit Santana?

I take it u have never been horse collared... If Roy Williams Horse Colled me like he did TO he would have probally broke both of my legs!!! to understand the power of the Horse collar u have to have it done to you running at full speed while a player whips you to the ground.... Head up tackles sound/look worse than what they are... its mostly pads on pads!!!



when watching the Cowboys and u see a player streak across the screen and lay out the guy with the ball.... u know its only 1 person who has that skill much in the mold of Ronnie Lott he can run full speed towards a moving target and hit it with 95% accurracy!

the most impressive hit I have seen was when he hit Jacobs of the Giants in close quarters and force a fumble on the goalline that was pure explosion!!!

 

[firehawk350]

Lord knows it helped Jamal Lewis.

The same Lord knows that Irvin's game suffered due to his legal issues...

It's a case-by-case issue and he had the same problem (but worse) last year and I didn't see much in the way of decline in talent

 

[t.o.boys81]

It's funny listening to all the Commander fans try to convince everyone that Sean Taylor can hit harder than Roy. Absolutely hilarious!

 

[AsthmaField]

Look... Sean Taylor is a very good safety. To be honest (and let you know that I am being honest) I think Taylor is better in coverage than Roy. He should be, he's a FS and Roy is a SS. However, the question of who hits harder is only a valid question in the minds of Commander fans. Everyone else knows that Roy hits harder.

Saying Roy drags down from behind is just a stupid statement. Yes he has pulled players down from behind... so has Taylor and every other safety in the NFL. Roy has had plenty of head on hits too though. Just watch the Boom highlight video that was made about Roy... he blows people up. It's silly to think that because he has pulled down from behind that it means that he doesn't hit hard. One has nothing to do with the other. What do you want Roy to do? When he finds himself trailing the ballcarrier, just let him go because he can't get the killshot from behind? Pffffft. Silly.

I've seen Roy level ballcarriers. I've seen Roy level blockers. I've seen Roy level returners. If you haven't seen the head on hits... you must not be looking too hard. He hit Emmitt so hard on his shoulder pads that he broke his shoulder blade. Emmitt said it was one of the hardest hits he's ever taken... and he's taken a lot. He gave Shawn Alexander a concussion just knocking him out of bounds. He almost knocked Deuce Staley out. He damn near killed a San Francisco kickoff returner in his rookie season. He butted heads with Marshall Faulk and Faulk just dropped the ball. No one touched the ball or really any part of his body except for his helment... but the hit was so hard, Faulk just went limp. I could go on and on. Roy scares people and Commander fans love to focus on the fact that he pulls down from behind... like everyone else playing defense does from time to time. Funny really.

Commander fans feel compelled to compare Roy and Sean and want Sean to be better in every aspect. He isn't. He's better in coverage and Roy hits harder.

Sean got absolutely steamrolled by Greg Jones while he was in college... just ran the F*** over. You must not have seen it or you wouldn't be saying anything about Roy pulling down from behind.

They both hit hard... Roy hit harder. They both can cover... Sean covers better. They're both good safeties, so let it go.

 

[superpunk]

The same Lord knows that Irvin's game suffered due to his legal issues...

You're right.

It was hella tough for Irvin to make many plays while he was suspended.

It'll be interesting to see how Taylor fares under a suspension. Maybe he can put up some killa hits on his couch pillow, or something.

 

[leotisbrown]

Sean Taylor needed a posse behind him a 50 calibor Desert eagle and a baseball bat before he decide he can be a tough guy.

Roy understand what Texas tough is all about. He come to a fights by himself with only a big sack of brass cannon balls between him and the enimese against him. That's at what we calls being a manly type man of stud power portions-- you wouldn't not knows nothing on that being a Deadskin fans and all-- HA HA HA!!!

Like Grampa Brown always use to said "One riot one rangler."

 

[CowboysFan02]

sean taylor or roy williams who hits the hardest..its close,but i have to lean towards sean taylor...reason being roy grabs from behind alot and he gets big hits on people who are not ready to protect themselves,sean has more head to head were the other guy is squared up and sean goes head to head and knocks the runner backwards,i think sean comes with more force..how do you see it?

Roy Williams hands down, bigger hitter and more entertaining to watch.

Oh and it seems Ronnie Lott agrees:

:starspin

When I asked him if there is anyone he watches on Sundays that reminds him of himself, he said, "I like to grab my popcorn and watch Roy Williams play the game."

Its about halfway down

Oh and if you need your Sean Taylor fix just take a look at him disappering behind Crayton in my sig.:wink3:

 

[jterrell]

Or we can ask Terry Glenn or Randy Moss. Hell, ask TO. Yes, Roy Williams broke his leg, but that wasn't because it was a monster hit. It was because it was a horse-collar tackle. In all fairness, it wasn't illegal at the time, but the point being it wasn't a hard tackle. Just ackward. You can ask the Cards RB too, he ducked (on 4th and 2 with the game on the line no less) avoid a Taylor hit as opposed to fight for the yards and the game.
Or let's turn it around, and ask Santana Moss. Has Roy ever been close enough to hit Santana?

try to take a second and think about this.

How many players in the nfl could have dragged TO down from behind, much less done so with enough force to break his ankle?

RW knocked Warner, McNair, Emmitt and many other players out of games with big hits. Lavar did that as well but Sean Taylor hasn't. His best plays are 20 yards down the field picking off passes when it looked like he was beat. Thats at UofM and for the skabs. What any non-Commander knows is that the Skins just lost their biggest hitter to a division rival.

Taylor didn't even land a blow in the infamous 4x4 dispute, he just waved a gun. He's good at threats and roaming centerfield.

At his size/speed, he is a good player but he's out of position as much as RW and does not have near the impact when he tackles. Taylor is wider and thicker from the waist up but in the legs RW is built like a DT.

 

[superpunk]

Roy scares people and Commander fans love to focus on the fact that he pulls down from behind... like everyone else playing defense does from time to time. Funny really.

Including Taylor.

Nice post, **. Why try to reason though, in such a ridiculous thread? It feels like :bang2:.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - if I could pick one player from another NFC East team, it would be Taylor, regardless of his off the field crap. (Although I'd prefer that he wasn't so bush-league ON the field, either....)

He's a phenomenal free safety. Probably will go down as one of the best. But Roy is in another league as far as hitting goes.

 

[t.o.boys81]

Taylor is better at spitting in people's faces than hitting hard.

 

[redskins1]

asthmafield...you bringing it strong..you make some valid points..it just seems like sean taylor blows more runners up head to head,and knock them backwards more than roy...which makes it seems he hits harder...anybody can blow somebody up who is unprotected...sean takes it head on and wins more...thats my point!!!

 

[DGreenFan87]

Sean Taylor needed a posse behind him a 50 calibor Desert eagle and a baseball bat before he decide he can be a tough guy.

Roy understand what Texas tough is all about. He come to a fights by himself with only a big sack of brass cannon balls between him and the enimese against him. That's at what we calls being a manly type man of stud power portions-- you wouldn't not knows nothing on that being a Deadskin fans and all-- HA HA HA!!!

Like Grampa Brown always use to said "One riot one rangler."

and this site DOESN'T have 12 year old homers. riiiiiiiight.

and someone please explain to me what "you wouldn't not knows nothing on that" means??

 

[Hostile]

Brian Dawkins needs to be in this equation.

Silly thread just meant to give a couple of jerks reason to go back to a Skins forum and call everyone who answers blind homers. Not a doubt in my mind.

 

[BigDFan5]

Your profile says you live in america, and the FL courts seemed to think Taylor didn't have a gun. So, I would go on a limb and call you either un-american or a liar. Your call.

umm the case never made it into a court room, Taylor pleaded down to avoid the trial. So I guess you are a liar for saying that?

I've got plenty of hits.

Terry Glenn

Link?

 

[superpunk]

Link?

I've got a killer link of Taylor hitting Glenn out of bounds, late. Is that what you want?

He does that an awful lot. 15 yard penalties are teh awesome.

 

[Hostile]

asthmafield...you bringing it strong..you make some valid points..it just seems like sean taylor blows more runners up head to head,and knock them backwards more than roy...which makes it seems he hits harder...anybody can blow somebody up who is unprotected...sean takes it head on and wins more...thats my point!!!

When did the NFL make a rule about Sean Taylor injuring people? The horse collar tackle has been in the NFL since long before you were a gleam in your mama's eye or a deviant thought in your daddy's head. One guy comes in and uses that tackle with devestating results and the NFL sees fit to outlaw it.

Taylor is a big hitter, but ask NFL players who is bigger. Not a doubt in my mind what the answer will be.

The king of big hitting safeties, Ronnie Lott, annointed Roy the guy he watches for his devestating hits. Excuse me if I give him more credence than I do you.

 

[5Stars]

Roy is also an upstanding citizen, a God fearing Christian, and a wonderful teammate that take his role seriously...

On the other hand, Taylor is a thug, a spitter, does what he wants regarding his team (not attending NFL mandated conferences)...hangs with criminals, fights with criminals, and is basically a no good for nothing punk!

Any more stupid questions?


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